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Baldy wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:18 am JSO said something something changing demographics something something...blah blah blah.

Which is on its face true, but he never takes into consideration that the Latino community is overall, a very conservative community.

The major flaw in JSO’s logic is ASSuming that demographics will ALWAYS vote the way they have in the recent past. But, like any other analysis he does, he doesn’t consider the underlying issues that may CHANGE that pattern. There were a couple counties on the border that went red in 2020 for the first time EVER. And I’m preeetttty sure it wasn’t because a bunch of white folks moved in... :lol:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:38 am
Baldy wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:18 am JSO said something something changing demographics something something...blah blah blah.

Which is on its face true, but he never takes into consideration that the Latino community is overall, a very conservative community.

The major flaw in JSO’s logic is ASSuming that demographics will ALWAYS vote the way they have in the recent past. But, like any other analysis he does, he doesn’t consider the underlying issues that may CHANGE that pattern. There were a couple counties on the border that went red in 2020 for the first time EVER. And I’m preeetttty sure it wasn’t because a bunch of white folks moved in... :lol:
Thought I read that town is 85% Hispanic.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:44 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:38 am

The major flaw in JSO’s logic is ASSuming that demographics will ALWAYS vote the way they have in the recent past. But, like any other analysis he does, he doesn’t consider the underlying issues that may CHANGE that pattern. There were a couple counties on the border that went red in 2020 for the first time EVER. And I’m preeetttty sure it wasn’t because a bunch of white folks moved in... :lol:
Thought I read that town is 85% Hispanic.
It is. And voted Biden by a 17-point margin just 8 months ago. :nod: :nod:
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That is a faulty premise. Trump wasn't impeached b/c he lost.
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:44 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:06 am Image
That is a faulty premise. Trump wasn't impeached b/c he lost.
It doesn’t say he was impeached BECAUSE he lost. It says he was impeached AND he lost. Unless he didn’t. :coffee: :coffee:
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:44 am
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That is a faulty premise. Trump wasn't impeached b/c he lost.
Oops, that was suppose to be in the meme’s thread.
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A 24,000 year old critter comes out of cryogenic...

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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:58 pm
Ibanez wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:44 am
That is a faulty premise. Trump wasn't impeached b/c he lost.
It doesn’t say he was impeached BECAUSE he lost. It says he was impeached AND he lost. Unless he didn’t. :coffee: :coffee:
I read it differently. But I can see your perspective. It's still a faulty premise. Trump wasn't impeached b/c he was exposing some lie. His words and actions from before the election right up until Jan 6 were inspiring others to be violent. Then his supporters, hearing that they have got to do something, attacked the Capital, ran around shouting the were gonna murder the VPOTUS and tried to stop the certification process in an attempt to overturn election results. It was a failed coup.


And before you deflect - the Dems in the summer of 2020 are equally guilty re: riots / looting
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:39 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:58 pm

It doesn’t say he was impeached BECAUSE he lost. It says he was impeached AND he lost. Unless he didn’t. :coffee: :coffee:
I read it differently. But I can see your perspective. It's still a faulty premise. Trump wasn't impeached b/c he was exposing some lie. His words and actions from before the election right up until Jan 6 were inspiring others to be violent. Then his supporters, hearing that they have got to do something, attacked the Capital, ran around shouting the were gonna murder the VPOTUS and tried to stop the certification process in an attempt to overturn election results. It was a failed coup.


And before you deflect - the Dems in the summer of 2020 are equally guilty re: riots / looting
Not the same.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:58 pm
Ibanez wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:44 am
That is a faulty premise. Trump wasn't impeached b/c he lost.
It doesn’t say he was impeached BECAUSE he lost. It says he was impeached AND he lost. Unless he didn’t. :coffee: :coffee:
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:39 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:58 pm

It doesn’t say he was impeached BECAUSE he lost. It says he was impeached AND he lost. Unless he didn’t. :coffee: :coffee:
I read it differently. But I can see your perspective. It's still a faulty premise. Trump wasn't impeached b/c he was exposing some lie. His words and actions from before the election right up until Jan 6 were inspiring others to be violent. Then his supporters, hearing that they have got to do something, attacked the Capital, ran around shouting the were gonna murder the VPOTUS and tried to stop the certification process in an attempt to overturn election results. It was a failed coup.


And before you deflect - the Dems in the summer of 2020 are equally guilty re: riots / looting
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

"failed coup".

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:48 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:39 am

I read it differently. But I can see your perspective. It's still a faulty premise. Trump wasn't impeached b/c he was exposing some lie. His words and actions from before the election right up until Jan 6 were inspiring others to be violent. Then his supporters, hearing that they have got to do something, attacked the Capital, ran around shouting the were gonna murder the VPOTUS and tried to stop the certification process in an attempt to overturn election results. It was a failed coup.


And before you deflect - the Dems in the summer of 2020 are equally guilty re: riots / looting
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

"failed coup".

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
It's a bit of an exaggeration, but it's not far off from one.

If the Democrats had done it - you'd be calling for them to be hunted and executed on sight.
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kalm wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:48 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:39 am
I read it differently. But I can see your perspective. It's still a faulty premise. Trump wasn't impeached b/c he was exposing some lie. His words and actions from before the election right up until Jan 6 were inspiring others to be violent. Then his supporters, hearing that they have got to do something, attacked the Capital, ran around shouting the were gonna murder the VPOTUS and tried to stop the certification process in an attempt to overturn election results. It was a failed coup.

And before you deflect - the Dems in the summer of 2020 are equally guilty re: riots / looting
Not the same.
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:50 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:48 am

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

"failed coup".

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
It's a bit of an exaggeration, but it's not far off from one.

If the Democrats had done it - you'd be calling for them to be hunted and executed on sight.
they'd been doing it for over a year, bro. :coffee:
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:48 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:48 am

Not the same.
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The dead horse of false equivalency? I agree!
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:50 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:50 am It's a bit of an exaggeration, but it's not far off from one.

If the Democrats had done it - you'd be calling for them to be hunted and executed on sight.
they'd been doing it for over a year, bro. :coffee:
Biden voters attacked a branch of government in an attempt to stop them from doing their business?
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:18 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:50 am

they'd been doing it for over a year, bro. :coffee:
Biden voters attacked a branch of government in an attempt to stop them from doing their business?
:suspicious: They did it for over 100 days in Portland alone, A LOT more violently..
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:21 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:18 am

Biden voters attacked a branch of government in an attempt to stop them from doing their business?
:suspicious: They did it for over 100 days in Portland alone, A LOT more violently..
I wasn't aware the seat of federal power had been moved to Portland.

What the BLM/ANtifa crowd did last summer was wrong. 100%. No question about it. But to say it is like storming the halls of Congress, threatening to murder Pence and stop certifying the election and sealing Trumps loss is just a false equivalency.


And saying one group is worse b/c they were more violent than another violent group is just ridiculous. We have the right to peacefully assemble. Anyone going beyond that is 100% in the wrong, regardless of their politics. :twocents:
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:26 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:21 am
:suspicious: They did it for over 100 days in Portland alone, A LOT more violently..
I wasn't aware the seat of federal power had been moved to Portland.
You said “a branch of the govt”. That was a federal courthouse they attacked. Last I looked, the judicial is a branch of the govt.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:53 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:26 am

I wasn't aware the seat of federal power had been moved to Portland.
You said “a branch of the govt”. That was a federal courthouse they attacked. Last I looked, the judicial is a branch of the govt.
Don't be obtuse - you know what I was talking about.

To your point - that was still wrong. Why didn't the US Congress and Trump go after them? Feckless punks on both sides, if you ask me.
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:00 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:53 am
You said “a branch of the govt”. That was a federal courthouse they attacked. Last I looked, the judicial is a branch of the govt.
Don't be obtuse - you know what I was talking about.

To your point - that was still wrong. Why didn't the US Congress and Trump go after them? Feckless punks on both sides, if you ask me.
difference being the ones in Portland were trying to destroy a nation. The ones in DC were trying to save one. :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
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kalm wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:14 am
UNI88 wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:48 am
:dead:
The dead horse of false equivalency? I agree!
The dead horse of we've already debated this. There were similarities and there were differences. The January 6 riots were worse in some ways and the BLM/AnTiFa riots were worse in others. Arguing that one was definitively worse than the other is dishonest.
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Black man caught on video repeatedly calls Asian cop a “fucking chink” , then when someone says that’s racist, says “Black people can’t be racist”. :suspicious: :dunce:
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:00 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:53 am
You said “a branch of the govt”. That was a federal courthouse they attacked. Last I looked, the judicial is a branch of the govt.
Don't be obtuse - you know what I was talking about.

To your point - that was still wrong. Why didn't the US Congress and Trump go after them? Feckless punks on both sides, if you ask me.
They did try to go after them, and the left lost their collective shit..
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:00 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:53 am
You said “a branch of the govt”. That was a federal courthouse they attacked. Last I looked, the judicial is a branch of the govt.
Don't be obtuse - you know what I was talking about.

To your point - that was still wrong. Why didn't the US Congress and Trump go after them? Feckless punks on both sides, if you ask me.
I agree with BDK, they are attacking the government. It might be at a local level but it is still the government.

For the most part, the crimes were local crimes and the justice system in Portland/Multnomah County is giving them preferential treatment like the courts used to give whites preferential treatment. It's outraged, faux-progressive privilege.
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