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kalm wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:54 am
UNI88 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:46 pm

You are misremembering history if you think we didn't have economic ups and downs during the period of higher taxes.
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I'll see about "real world examples where libertarian economics have proven a sustainable success" after you've given a rational explanation of how higher taxes won't have a negative impact on productivity and innovation. While you're at it maybe you can finally answer my question about why socialism will work this time. ;)

IMO, the innovations that have resulted from the Information Revolution have been worth some booms and busts. I'd rather risk the ups and downs for the opportunity to improve our overall quality of life.
1) Downturns sure. Existential financial crises are a different thing.

2). Higher taxes enabled us to rebuild Europe, build interstates, go to the moon, and educate a generation of GI’s all at the same time without massively going into debt. We were productive, and innovative, and those dollars spent on education were more than paid back by personal income taxes alone (a few thousand spent on a GI was paid back in the 10’s of thousands)

3). Broken record. You know I’m not advocating for the means of production. Just sensible mixed market economics that’s already proven to be a success.

4). Were number 19!

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You think the 2008 recession was an existential financial crisis? You poor, sheltered little thing.

So what do you think is the ideal federal tax rate for the highest earners? You despise Reagan, do you want to go back to 70%?
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:43 am
kalm wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:54 am

1) Downturns sure. Existential financial crises are a different thing.

2). Higher taxes enabled us to rebuild Europe, build interstates, go to the moon, and educate a generation of GI’s all at the same time without massively going into debt. We were productive, and innovative, and those dollars spent on education were more than paid back by personal income taxes alone (a few thousand spent on a GI was paid back in the 10’s of thousands)

3). Broken record. You know I’m not advocating for the means of production. Just sensible mixed market economics that’s already proven to be a success.

4). Were number 19!

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You think the 2008 recession was an existential financial crisis? You poor, sheltered little thing.

So what do you think is the ideal federal tax rate for the highest earners? You despise Reagan, do you want to go back to 70%?
We’re still dealing with the 2008 crisis and most economists would agree with me here so yeah.

Tax rates are a whole other LONG debate. I’d start with simplifying and eliminating fraud…both corporate and personal But the elites would never allow that. I’m also not opposed to spending cuts.
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kalm wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:50 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:43 am
You think the 2008 recession was an existential financial crisis? You poor, sheltered little thing.

So what do you think is the ideal federal tax rate for the highest earners? You despise Reagan, do you want to go back to 70%?
We’re still dealing with the 2008 crisis and most economists would agree with me here so yeah.

Tax rates are a whole other LONG debate. I’d start with simplifying and eliminating fraud…both corporate and personal But the elites would never allow that. I’m also not opposed to spending cuts.
2008 was a minor setback compared to the Great Depression. That was an existential financial crisis.

Time to put up or shut up - give me a percentage that you think is fair for the highest earners. :coffee:
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:15 am
kalm wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:50 am

We’re still dealing with the 2008 crisis and most economists would agree with me here so yeah.

Tax rates are a whole other LONG debate. I’d start with simplifying and eliminating fraud…both corporate and personal But the elites would never allow that. I’m also not opposed to spending cuts.
2008 was a minor setback compared to the Great Depression. That was an existential financial crisis.

Time to put up or shut up - give me a percentage that you think is fair for the highest earners. :coffee:
No.

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kalm wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:19 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:15 am
2008 was a minor setback compared to the Great Depression. That was an existential financial crisis.

Time to put up or shut up - give me a percentage that you think is fair for the highest earners. :coffee:
No.

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kalm wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:19 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:15 am

2008 was a minor setback compared to the Great Depression. That was an existential financial crisis.

Time to put up or shut up - give me a percentage that you think is fair for the highest earners. :coffee:
No.

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Ivytalk wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:24 am
kalm wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:19 am

No.

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91%. Klam likes Ike.
I do like Ike but 91% is unrealistic.
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kalm wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:28 am
Ivytalk wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:24 am

91%. Klam likes Ike.
I do like Ike but 91% is unrealistic.
So what’s “realistic,” comrade?
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houndawg wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:36 pm
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What you implied dementia dawg..
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kalm wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:54 am
UNI88 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:46 pm

You are misremembering history if you think we didn't have economic ups and downs during the period of higher taxes.
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I'll see about "real world examples where libertarian economics have proven a sustainable success" after you've given a rational explanation of how higher taxes won't have a negative impact on productivity and innovation. While you're at it maybe you can finally answer my question about why socialism will work this time. ;)

IMO, the innovations that have resulted from the Information Revolution have been worth some booms and busts. I'd rather risk the ups and downs for the opportunity to improve our overall quality of life.
1) Downturns sure. Existential financial crises are a different thing.

2). Higher taxes enabled us to rebuild Europe, build interstates, go to the moon, and educate a generation of GI’s all at the same time without massively going into debt. We were productive, and innovative, and those dollars spent on education were more than paid back by personal income taxes alone (a few thousand spent on a GI was paid back in the 10’s of thousands)

3). Broken record. You know I’m not advocating for the means of production. Just sensible mixed market economics that’s already proven to be a success.

4). Were number 19!

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That list looks racist to me. With 1 exception, it looks like a list of the whitest countries in the world, all whiter than the US. It racistly implies majority black and brown and yellow countries can’t be as happy as majority white countries. So the list implies we need to become more white.
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Ivytalk wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:29 am
kalm wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:28 am
I do like Ike but 91% is unrealistic.
So please kalmsplain to us what’s “realistic,” kalmrade?
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Ivytalk wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:29 am
kalm wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:28 am

I do like Ike but 91% is unrealistic.
So what’s “realistic,” comrade?
Dunno, Camicia Nera, maybe 3% increase? At most?
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:10 am
kalm wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:54 am

1) Downturns sure. Existential financial crises are a different thing.

2). Higher taxes enabled us to rebuild Europe, build interstates, go to the moon, and educate a generation of GI’s all at the same time without massively going into debt. We were productive, and innovative, and those dollars spent on education were more than paid back by personal income taxes alone (a few thousand spent on a GI was paid back in the 10’s of thousands)

3). Broken record. You know I’m not advocating for the means of production. Just sensible mixed market economics that’s already proven to be a success.

4). Were number 19!

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That list looks racist to me. With 1 exception, it looks like a list of the whitest countries in the world, all whiter than the US. It racistly implies majority black and brown and yellow countries can’t be as happy as majority white countries. So the list implies we need to become more white.
Look over there! :roll:
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:10 am
kalm wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:54 am

1) Downturns sure. Existential financial crises are a different thing.

2). Higher taxes enabled us to rebuild Europe, build interstates, go to the moon, and educate a generation of GI’s all at the same time without massively going into debt. We were productive, and innovative, and those dollars spent on education were more than paid back by personal income taxes alone (a few thousand spent on a GI was paid back in the 10’s of thousands)

3). Broken record. You know I’m not advocating for the means of production. Just sensible mixed market economics that’s already proven to be a success.

4). Were number 19!

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I absolutely love it when people pull this meme out of their ass as support for higher taxes. Almost all of those countries above us have one key thing in common….besides “happiness”, apparently.
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kalm wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:21 am
Ivytalk wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:29 am

So what’s “realistic,” comrade?
Dunno, Camicia Nera, maybe 3% increase? At most?
So what do Mussolini’s blackshirts have to do with US tax rates?
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Ivytalk wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:45 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:21 am

Dunno, Camicia Nera, maybe 3% increase? At most?
So what do Mussolini’s blackshirts have to do with US tax rates?
The same thing commies have to do US tax policy.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:26 pm Liberals hate bald eagles.
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And Golden Eagles, which made up the bulk of those that were killed. First they cause cancer and now they're killing animals! When will the carnage stop!!??
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Sen. Joni Ernst confronts Biden nominee who called her 'hideous' on Twitter: 'I'm calling you out'
"Ma’am, I’ll cut you off right there. How else could this come across? The word hideous, to me, only has one meaning. And the views I expressed in my State of the Union response. And the views I expressed in my State of the Union response were personal experiences. So maybe you didn’t appreciate that I grew up on a small, rural farm in an economically disadvantaged area of Iowa. Maybe you didn’t like that my mother had to put bread bags on my shoes when I went to school. Maybe you didn’t like that, but a lot of Americans have had the same experiences that I have had. And so to call my personal views as hideous is an affront to half of America."


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kalm wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:36 am
Ivytalk wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:45 pm

So what do Mussolini’s blackshirts have to do with US tax rates?
The same thing commies have to do US tax policy.
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Ivytalk wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:38 am
kalm wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:36 am

The same thing commies have to do US tax policy.
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Pretty stark example of political polarization, but I do wonder how they chose which anchors to use. Was Alex Jones supposed to just be a baseline?

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