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UNI88 wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:01 am
kalm wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:50 am

Well…since fascism implies a nationalistic right wing movement does this mean the Biden administration has moved to the right? This should make you happy!

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Biden has moved us closer to a police state in 10 months than Trump did in 4 years and that's all you have? Deflection?

A police state is a police state. It doesn't matter if it started out fascist, Marxist or something else.
I didn’t deflect. I’ve always said the end result of both left and right ideologies if left unchecked, lead to authoritarianism.
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kalm wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:45 am
UNI88 wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:01 am
Biden has moved us closer to a police state in 10 months than Trump did in 4 years and that's all you have? Deflection?

A police state is a police state. It doesn't matter if it started out fascist, Marxist or something else.
I didn’t deflect. I’ve always said the end result of both left and right ideologies if left unchecked, lead to authoritarianism.
You chose to ignore Biden's attack on the 1st Amendment and focus on fascists being right-wing. You're either missing the point or deflecting away from it. What Biden has done to the press in 10 months is more egregious and has the potential to be much longer-lasting than 4 years of Trump's bloviating attacks.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:58 am
kalm wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:45 am

I didn’t deflect. I’ve always said the end result of both left and right ideologies if left unchecked, lead to authoritarianism.
You chose to ignore Biden's attack on the 1st Amendment and focus on fascists being right-wing. You're either missing the point or deflecting away from it. What Biden has done to the press in 10 months is more egregious and has the potential to be much longer-lasting than 4 years of Trump's bloviating attacks.
There’s plenty of BDS on here. Just because I don’t pile on doesn’t mean I ignore it. This is one instance of his FBI doing it. What are the others?
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kalm wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:50 am
UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:47 pm

FBI raid on Project Veritas founder’s home sparks questions about press freedom



Are we sure Trump was the fascist?
Well…since fascism implies a nationalistic right wing movement does this mean the Biden administration has moved to the right? This should make you happy!

:phat:
Every definition of racism that I can find says nationalist, but no one mentions right wing, or conservative..

Where did you come up with that gem???

Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
early instances of army fascism and brutality

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism
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Col Hogan wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:12 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:50 am

Well…since fascism implies a nationalistic right wing movement does this mean the Biden administration has moved to the right? This should make you happy!

:phat:
Every definition of racism that I can find says nationalist, but no one mentions right wing, or conservative..

Where did you come up with that gem???

Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
early instances of army fascism and brutality

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism
Most of the ones I’ve seen do. Brittanica, Cambridge, Oxford, Wiki…

Even within Webster’s there’s a reference to fascisti. And most characterize it as a rejection of democracy which is certainly a right wing idea.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:58 am
kalm wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:45 am

I didn’t deflect. I’ve always said the end result of both left and right ideologies if left unchecked, lead to authoritarianism.
You chose to ignore Biden's attack on the 1st Amendment and focus on fascists being right-wing. You're either missing the point or deflecting away from it. What Biden has done to the press in 10 months is more egregious and has the potential to be much longer-lasting than 4 years of Trump's bloviating attacks.
:nod:

Funny to see the leftists flailing away with the mental gymnastics to not acknowledge this fact. :popcorn:
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Oh thank God.

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kalm wrote:
Col Hogan wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:12 pm Every definition of racism that I can find says nationalist, but no one mentions right wing, or conservative..

Where did you come up with that gem???

Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
early instances of army fascism and brutality

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism
Most of the ones I’ve seen do. Brittanica, Cambridge, Oxford, Wiki…

Even within Webster’s there’s a reference to fascisti. And most characterize it as a rejection of democracy which is certainly a right wing idea.
So the Soviet Union, Peoples Repubic of North Korea, China, Cuba, etc are right wing?


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LeadBolt wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:05 pm
kalm wrote:
Most of the ones I’ve seen do. Brittanica, Cambridge, Oxford, Wiki…

Even within Webster’s there’s a reference to fascisti. And most characterize it as a rejection of democracy which is certainly a right wing idea.
So the Soviet Union, Peoples Repubic of North Korea, China, Cuba, etc are right wing?


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kalm wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:16 pm
LeadBolt wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:05 pm
So the Soviet Union, Peoples Repubic of North Korea, China, Cuba, etc are right wing?
No.
So the rejection of democracy is not certainly a right-wing idea.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:20 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:16 pm

No.
So the rejection of democracy is not certainly a right-wing idea.
Stop crushing his weak ass narratives UNI. :tothehand:
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:20 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:16 pm

No.
So the rejection of democracy is not certainly a right-wing idea.
No…I said that right up there. ^^^^
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SDHornet wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:33 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:20 pm

So the rejection of democracy is not certainly a right-wing idea.
Stop crushing his weak ass narratives UNI. :tothehand:
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kalm wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:16 pm
LeadBolt wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:05 pm
So the Soviet Union, Peoples Repubic of North Korea, China, Cuba, etc are right wing?


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It must be dizzying trying to keep up with your mental gymnastics in your head. :rofl: :rofl:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:32 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:16 pm

No.
It must be dizzying trying to keep up with your mental gymnastics in your head. :rofl: :rofl:
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Col Hogan wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:12 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:50 am

Well…since fascism implies a nationalistic right wing movement does this mean the Biden administration has moved to the right? This should make you happy!

:phat:
Every definition of racism that I can find says nationalist, but no one mentions right wing, or conservative..

Where did you come up with that gem???

Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
early instances of army fascism and brutality

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism
Look at the actions of the Right Wing of the Republican Party and you'll see nationalist attributes.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:32 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:16 pm

No.
It must be dizzying trying to keep up with your mental gymnastics in your head. :rofl: :rofl:
There's no mental gymnastics on this one. He literally said rejecting democracy is a right wing idea. Kalmie doesn't really admit to being wrong so I'll just step in for him and apologize for him. :rofl:
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GannonFan wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:39 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:32 pm

It must be dizzying trying to keep up with your mental gymnastics in your head. :rofl: :rofl:
There's no mental gymnastics on this one. He literally said rejecting democracy is a right wing idea. Kalmie doesn't really admit to being wrong so I'll just step in for him and apologize for him. :rofl:
I’ve admitted to being wrong…when it happens. :coffee:

Tell me again about all those times you admitted to being wrong.

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kalm wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:44 am
GannonFan wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:39 am

There's no mental gymnastics on this one. He literally said rejecting democracy is a right wing idea. Kalmie doesn't really admit to being wrong so I'll just step in for him and apologize for him. :rofl:
I’ve admitted to being wrong…when it happens. :coffee:

Tell me again about all those times you admitted to being wrong.

:lol:
Of course I've been wrong, I was convinced you were post-partisan and clearly was wrong about that. :rofl:
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GannonFan wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:49 am
kalm wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:44 am

I’ve admitted to being wrong…when it happens. :coffee:

Tell me again about all those times you admitted to being wrong.

:lol:
Of course I've been wrong, I was convinced you were post-partisan and clearly was wrong about that. :rofl:
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Sen. Sinema hits Dem leaders over honesty, false promises
“I've been concerned at the push that happens in both parties, this push to have no disagreements. To only have unity or to only speak with one voice. And some will say, ‘Oh, that is our strength,’” Sinema said. “Having some disagreement is normal. It is real, it is human. And it's an opportunity for us as mature beings to work through it," she added.
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“There's this growing trend of people in both political parties who promise things that cannot be delivered, in order to get the short-term political gain. And I believe that it damages the long-term health of our democracy," she said. She compared her party's unachievable legislative commitments to Republicans vowing to repeal the Affordable Care Act after former President Trump was elected.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:01 am
Biden has moved us closer to a police state in 10 months than Trump did in 4 years
That is a ridiculous Statement. Trump was doing things like threatening to use the military to suppress civil unrest. You are just totally off base with that Statement. Trump was WAY more of a "police state" risk than Biden is. Not close.
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On the threat to Democracy thing:

Right now. the Republican Party is clearly the bigger threat to Democracy. Or I should say they are the bigger threat to government by the People.
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