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Delegates Unbound
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:47 am
by kalm
If 306 of the 1542 Trump delegates abstain from the first vote at the convention, all hell can break loose. There's still hope for some intrigue...
Unconventional #33: How Paul Ryan could decide whether Trump is dumped in Cleveland (and more!)
Andrew Romano
West Coast Correspondent
July 8, 2016692 Comments
1. Inside the plot to ‘save’ the GOP from Trump — with Paul Ryan’s help
A few months ago, conservatives desperate for a white knight to ride into the Republican National Convention in Cleveland and rescue the party from presumptive nominee Donald Trump turned to House Speaker Paul Ryan. Help us, Paul, they cried. You’re our only hope. Ryan turned them down flat.
But a scenario is shaping up that may force Ryan to play the white knight after all.
As chairman of the convention, Ryan will command the podium in Cleveland. He will hold the gavel. His face will be front and center on primetime TV.
And if a group of renegade delegates from the speaker’s home state of Wisconsin gets its way, Ryan’s duties won’t stop there.
He will also, they hope, allow his fellow Wisconsinites to block Trump from winning the nomination.
Can these Cheeseheads really overthrow Trump at the convention? And will Ryan, who officially supports the presumptive nominee, actually wade into a civil war on the convention floor and deliver the Donald’s deathblow?
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Re: Delegates Unbound
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:29 am
by 89Hen
Hope for what? Trump not getting the nod guarantees Hillary the POTUS.
Re: Delegates Unbound
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:32 am
by kalm
89Hen wrote:Hope for what? Trump not getting the nod guarantees Hillary the POTUS.
Ummm intrigue? Like I said?
Politics is one of my favorite spectator sports.
Re: Delegates Unbound
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:33 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:89Hen wrote:Hope for what? Trump not getting the nod guarantees Hillary the POTUS.
Ummm intrigue? Like I said?
Politics is one of my favorite spectator sports.
You're expecting me to read carefully on a Saturday morning?

Re: RE: Re: Delegates Unbound
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:38 am
by DSUrocks07
89Hen wrote:Hope for what? Trump not getting the nod guarantees Hillary the POTUS.
This.
Which will also embolden the Bernie supporters in Philadelphia a few weeks later. I can only imagine what chaos will come from it.
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Re: RE: Re: Delegates Unbound
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:11 am
by UNI88
DSUrocks07 wrote:89Hen wrote:Hope for what? Trump not getting the nod guarantees Hillary the POTUS.
This.
Which will also embolden the Bernie supporters in Philadelphia a few weeks later. I can only imagine what chaos will come from it.
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I'm not sure about "Trump not getting the nod guarantees Hillary the POTUS." IMO Hilary is going to curb stomp Trump. They're both extremely flawed candidates but Trump will scare Donks into holding their nose, toeing the party line and voting for Hilary a lot more than the reverse. I also think Hilary will do better with independents simply because she appears more rational.
The unanswered question is does a more "reasonable" candidate gain enough votes to offset the loss of the ardent Trump supporters?
And a Conk convention coup that overthrows Trump and fans the fuel of an attempted Bernie coup would be extremely entertaining. We live in interesting times.
Re: Delegates Unbound
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:18 am
by houndawg
89Hen wrote:Hope for what? Trump not getting the nod guarantees Hillary the POTUS.
That's already been decided. They'll announce it in November
Re: RE: Re: Delegates Unbound
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:20 am
by houndawg
UNI88 wrote:DSUrocks07 wrote:
This.
Which will also embolden the Bernie supporters in Philadelphia a few weeks later. I can only imagine what chaos will come from it.
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I'm not sure about "Trump not getting the nod guarantees Hillary the POTUS." IMO Hilary is going to curb stomp Trump. They're both extremely flawed candidates but Trump will scare Donks into holding their nose, toeing the party line and voting for Hilary a lot more than the reverse. I also think Hilary will do better with independents simply because she appears more rational.
The unanswered question is does a more "reasonable" candidate gain enough votes to offset the loss of the ardent Trump supporters?
And a Conk convention coup that overthrows Trump and fans the fuel of an attempted Bernie coup would be extremely entertaining. We live in interesting times.
This and some rioting at the conventions would go a long way toward restoring my faith in the American people.
Re: RE: Re: Delegates Unbound
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:43 am
by SDHornet
houndawg wrote:UNI88 wrote:
I'm not sure about "Trump not getting the nod guarantees Hillary the POTUS." IMO Hilary is going to curb stomp Trump. They're both extremely flawed candidates but Trump will scare Donks into holding their nose, toeing the party line and voting for Hilary a lot more than the reverse. I also think Hilary will do better with independents simply because she appears more rational.
The unanswered question is does a more "reasonable" candidate gain enough votes to offset the loss of the ardent Trump supporters?
And a Conk convention coup that overthrows Trump and fans the fuel of an attempted Bernie coup would be extremely entertaining. We live in interesting times.
This and some rioting at the conventions would go a long way toward restoring my faith in the American people.
Does anyone seriously believe bernie supporters will riot at the convention?
I bet most of them are already on the hilldog train...pussies.

Re: Delegates Unbound
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:53 am
by SuperHornet
Are we actually anticipating trouble at BOTH conventions?

Re: RE: Re: Delegates Unbound
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:54 am
by Ivytalk
SDHornet wrote:houndawg wrote:
This and some rioting at the conventions would go a long way toward restoring my faith in the American people.
Does anyone seriously believe bernie supporters will riot at the convention?
I bet most of them are already on the hilldog train...pussies.

Exactly. Bernie is going to endorse the Witch today or tomorrow. Then he'll be free to line up for the Early Bird special at his Florida condo.
