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I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:45 am
by AZGrizFan
That the country HE has presided over for 8 years is disintegrating before his eyes.

And that his divisive words and actions have accelerated that disintegration.

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:49 am
by dbackjon
:lmao:

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:57 am
by AZGrizFan
Or that the election of Hildabeast will bring more of the same.

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:01 pm
by Grizalltheway
WARSAW — President Obama condemned the sniper-style shootings of Dallas police officers Friday, calling the assault a "vicious, calculated and despicable attack on law enforcement.

"I believe I speak for every single American when I say we are horrified over these events, and we stand united with the people and the police department in Dallas," he said.

Obama said he spoke with Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings, and offered him condolences and federal assistance.

Dallas police said at least five officers were killed and seven more injured by gunfire in downtown Dallas during what had been a peaceful protest over police-involved shootings Thursday night.

After almost an hour of negotiations, the heavily armed gunman — who was holed up in a building that overlooked the protest route — was killed by police using a robot-controlled explosive device. Three other people have been arrested.

"We will learn more, undoubtedly, about their twisted motivations, but let’s be clear: There is no possible justification for these types of attacks," Obama said. "Anyone involved in the senseless murders will be held fully accountable. Justice will be done."
How incredibly divisive. :ohno:

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:03 pm
by AZGrizFan
Grizalltheway wrote:
WARSAW — President Obama condemned the sniper-style shootings of Dallas police officers Friday, calling the assault a "vicious, calculated and despicable attack on law enforcement.

"I believe I speak for every single American when I say we are horrified over these events, and we stand united with the people and the police department in Dallas," he said.

Obama said he spoke with Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings, and offered him condolences and federal assistance.

Dallas police said at least five officers were killed and seven more injured by gunfire in downtown Dallas during what had been a peaceful protest over police-involved shootings Thursday night.

After almost an hour of negotiations, the heavily armed gunman — who was holed up in a building that overlooked the protest route — was killed by police using a robot-controlled explosive device. Three other people have been arrested.

"We will learn more, undoubtedly, about their twisted motivations, but let’s be clear: There is no possible justification for these types of attacks," Obama said. "Anyone involved in the senseless murders will be held fully accountable. Justice will be done."
How incredibly divisive. :ohno:
Like closing the barn door after you ran the horse out. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:03 pm
by Chizzang
Italy was nice... did I miss anything important while I was away
or just more of the same

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:04 pm
by mrklean
AZGrizFan wrote:That the country HE has presided over for 8 years is disintegrating before his eyes.

And that his divisive words and actions have accelerated that disintegration.
Do you think Trump will do any better?

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:07 pm
by AZGrizFan
mrklean wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:That the country HE has presided over for 8 years is disintegrating before his eyes.

And that his divisive words and actions have accelerated that disintegration.
Do you think Trump will do any better?
Trump - unknown
Clinton - Known. Horribly known
Johnson - Better. Way better

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:14 pm
by Ibanez
Chizzang wrote:Italy was nice... did I miss anything important while I was away
or just more of the same
You were gone? Damn..

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:14 pm
by 89Hen
AZGrizFan wrote:Johnson - Better. Way better
Why's that? Serious question.

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:17 pm
by AZGrizFan
89Hen wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Johnson - Better. Way better
Why's that? Serious question.
Because he has political experience (unlike Trump) and is a known quantity, and believes in fiscal conservatism. And regarding social issues, believes the government should stay out of it.

And when I say "way better", I mean way better than the other two alternatives.

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:32 pm
by Ibanez
AZGrizFan wrote:
89Hen wrote: Why's that? Serious question.
Because he has political experience (unlike Trump) and is a known quantity, and believes in fiscal conservatism. And regarding social issues, believes the government should stay out of it.

And when I say "way better", I mean way better than the other two alternatives.
A rotting corpse would be better than Trump or Clinton.

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:35 pm
by 89Hen
AZGrizFan wrote:
89Hen wrote: Why's that? Serious question.
Because he has political experience (unlike Trump) and is a known quantity, and believes in fiscal conservatism. And regarding social issues, believes the government should stay out of it.

And when I say "way better", I mean way better than the other two alternatives.
He might be less divisive just because he's unknown (he's NOT a known quantity by a vast majority of people), but I don't know enough of his social policies to be able to say he'd be less divisive over time. I still can't get over the fact that he is proud to have vetoed his state legislature 750 times in his administration. My way or the highway isn't a very unifying position IMO.

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:44 pm
by Grizalltheway
AZGrizFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
How incredibly divisive. :ohno:
Like closing the barn door after you ran the horse out. :roll: :roll: :roll:
What horse are we talking about exactly? Did I miss where he called for black people to start gunning down cops?

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:50 pm
by ASUG8
AZGrizFan wrote:
89Hen wrote: Why's that? Serious question.
Because he has political experience (unlike Trump) and is a known quantity, and believes in fiscal conservatism. And regarding social issues, believes the government should stay out of it.

And when I say "way better", I mean way better than the other two alternatives.
Gotta go with Z on this one. Johnson has my vote.

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:51 pm
by ASUG8
89Hen wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Because he has political experience (unlike Trump) and is a known quantity, and believes in fiscal conservatism. And regarding social issues, believes the government should stay out of it.

And when I say "way better", I mean way better than the other two alternatives.
He might be less divisive just because he's unknown (he's NOT a known quantity by a vast majority of people), but I don't know enough of his social policies to be able to say he'd be less divisive over time. I still can't get over the fact that he is proud to have vetoed his state legislature 750 times in his administration. My way or the highway isn't a very unifying position IMO.
It's hardly foolproof, but Johnson is by far my strongest candidate.

https://www.isidewith.com/

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:59 pm
by 89Hen
ASUG8 wrote:It's hardly foolproof, but Johnson is by far my strongest candidate.

https://www.isidewith.com/
I've already done that one. Nobody is nearly as high as they should be for me. I usually have a candidate in the high 80's but nobody cracked 80 this go round. :thumbdown:

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:59 pm
by Skjellyfetti
AZGrizFan wrote:That the country HE has presided over for 8 years is disintegrating before his eyes.
What a fucking drama queen.

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:05 pm
by Skjellyfetti
89Hen wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Because he has political experience (unlike Trump) and is a known quantity, and believes in fiscal conservatism. And regarding social issues, believes the government should stay out of it.

And when I say "way better", I mean way better than the other two alternatives.
He might be less divisive just because he's unknown (he's NOT a known quantity by a vast majority of people), but I don't know enough of his social policies to be able to say he'd be less divisive over time. I still can't get over the fact that he is proud to have vetoed his state legislature 750 times in his administration. My way or the highway isn't a very unifying position IMO.
Who are you leaning toward voting for, Hen?

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:08 pm
by 89Hen
Skjellyfetti wrote:
89Hen wrote: He might be less divisive just because he's unknown (he's NOT a known quantity by a vast majority of people), but I don't know enough of his social policies to be able to say he'd be less divisive over time. I still can't get over the fact that he is proud to have vetoed his state legislature 750 times in his administration. My way or the highway isn't a very unifying position IMO.
Who are you leaning toward voting for, Hen?
I've said it in other threads... NOTA. Gonna sit this one out. Will only be voting for local folks. Doesn't matter anyway when you live in a county that is 70% one party. :coffee:

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:10 pm
by ASUG8
89Hen wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:It's hardly foolproof, but Johnson is by far my strongest candidate.

https://www.isidewith.com/
I've already done that one. Nobody is nearly as high as they should be for me. I usually have a candidate in the high 80's but nobody cracked 80 this go round. :thumbdown:
I'm mid 80's with Johnson, with Trump about 10 points behind.

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:12 pm
by 89Hen
BTW, do you guys still think Johnson will get double digit percentage of the general? I think a few of you said that.

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:12 pm
by AZGrizFan
89Hen wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Because he has political experience (unlike Trump) and is a known quantity, and believes in fiscal conservatism. And regarding social issues, believes the government should stay out of it.

And when I say "way better", I mean way better than the other two alternatives.
He might be less divisive just because he's unknown (he's NOT a known quantity by a vast majority of people), but I don't know enough of his social policies to be able to say he'd be less divisive over time. I still can't get over the fact that he is proud to have vetoed his state legislature 750 times in his administration. My way or the highway isn't a very unifying position IMO.
And what's "known" about Trump? Only what the vast majority of people see on "The Apprentice".

Johnson is certainly the most level-headed, truthful, honest, responsible adult running. In fact, he's the ONLY level-headed, truthful, honest, responsible adult running.

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:12 pm
by AZGrizFan
89Hen wrote:BTW, do you guys still think Johnson will get double digit percentage of the general? I think a few of you said that.
Won't matter, given the electoral college process.

I do think he'll get double digit....but won't win a state.

Re: I Wonder if Obama Even Cares....

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:14 pm
by AZGrizFan
89Hen wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Who are you leaning toward voting for, Hen?
I've said it in other threads... NOTA. Gonna sit this one out. Will only be voting for local folks. Doesn't matter anyway when you live in a county that is 70% one party. :coffee:
It DOES matter, Hen. If you vote your conscience, and people begin to understand that there's OTHERS out there who feel the way they do, then people won't keep believing that a third party vote is a "wasted vote". Until people start exercising their right to vote and sending a message to congress and the government in general, we'll be stuck with the current 2-party system....

Please vote. :thumb: