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Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:05 am
by Pwns
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spe ... mo-stance/

It's about time. I was beginning to think the science squad only cared about creationism in schools and not stuff that actually affects public health. :nod:
Scientific and regulatory agencies around the world have repeatedly and consistently found crops and foods improved through biotechnology to be as safe as, if not safer than those derived from any other method of production. There has never been a single confirmed case of a negative health outcome for humans or animals from their consumption. Their environmental impacts have been shown repeatedly to be less damaging to the environment, and a boon to global biodiversity.

Greenpeace has spearheaded opposition to Golden Rice, which has the potential to reduce or eliminate much of the death and disease caused by a vitamin A deficiency (VAD), which has the greatest impact on the poorest people in Africa and Southeast Asia.

The World Health Organization estimates that 250 million people, suffer from VAD, including 40 percent of the children under five in the developing world. Based on UNICEF statistics, a total of one to two million preventable deaths occur annually as a result of VAD, because it compromises the immune system, putting babies and children at great risk. VAD itself is the leading cause of childhood blindness globally affecting 250,000 - 500,000 children each year. Half die within 12 months of losing their eyesight.
Envirowhacko death cult. :ohno:

Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:21 am
by kalm
Pwns wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spe ... mo-stance/

It's about time. I was beginning to think the science squad only cared about creationism in schools and not stuff that actually affects public health. :nod:
Scientific and regulatory agencies around the world have repeatedly and consistently found crops and foods improved through biotechnology to be as safe as, if not safer than those derived from any other method of production. There has never been a single confirmed case of a negative health outcome for humans or animals from their consumption. Their environmental impacts have been shown repeatedly to be less damaging to the environment, and a boon to global biodiversity.

Greenpeace has spearheaded opposition to Golden Rice, which has the potential to reduce or eliminate much of the death and disease caused by a vitamin A deficiency (VAD), which has the greatest impact on the poorest people in Africa and Southeast Asia.

The World Health Organization estimates that 250 million people, suffer from VAD, including 40 percent of the children under five in the developing world. Based on UNICEF statistics, a total of one to two million preventable deaths occur annually as a result of VAD, because it compromises the immune system, putting babies and children at great risk. VAD itself is the leading cause of childhood blindness globally affecting 250,000 - 500,000 children each year. Half die within 12 months of losing their eyesight.
Envirowhacko death cult. :ohno:
How is biogenetically modified corn good for biodiversity and less damaging to the environment? :suspicious:

Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:31 am
by Pwns
kalm wrote: How is biogenetically modified corn good for biodiversity and less damaging to the environment? :suspicious:
Because scientific consensus you conk, science-denying philistine. :ohno:




( :lol: )

But seriously, how is introducing something new into a corn's gene pool bad for biodiversity? Isn't that pretty much increasing biodiversity?

Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:49 am
by Ibanez
So is there is no correlation between the rise of obesity and the introduction of genetically modified foods?

Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:59 am
by kalm
Pwns wrote:
kalm wrote: How is biogenetically modified corn good for biodiversity and less damaging to the environment? :suspicious:
Because scientific consensus you conk, science-denying philistine. :ohno:




( :lol: )

But seriously, how is introducing something new into a corn's gene pool bad for biodiversity? Isn't that pretty much increasing biodiversity?
So an Iowa field is more biodiverse than 100 years ago? Are there more species of corn being raised today? How is the environment better?

Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:01 am
by Pwns
Ibanez wrote:So is there is no correlation between the rise of obesity and the introduction of genetically modified foods?
There probably is, just like you could probably draw a correlation between percent of Americans identifying as non-religious and obesity.

I don't know of any GMO foods where the spliced gene increases the energy content of the food. The one food that's had a lot of controversy around it is the golden rice (basically rice with a beta carotene gene added to it). Vitamin A doesn't really have any energy content so it's not plausible that it could be responsible for obesity.

Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:03 am
by Pwns
kalm wrote: But seriously, how is introducing something new into a corn's gene pool bad for biodiversity? Isn't that pretty much increasing biodiversity?

So an Iowa field is more biodiverse than 100 years ago? Are there more species of corn being raised today? How is the environment better?
Why does the field itself need to have biodiversity? We've been doing selective breeding on plants and animals since forever. How is that selective breeding on such a small percentage of species in the world going to threaten diversity?

Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:09 am
by grizzaholic
Greenpeace is a terrorist organization.

Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:01 pm
by GannonFan
Ibanez wrote:So is there is no correlation between the rise of obesity and the introduction of genetically modified foods?
Well, the same correlation exists between the rise of obesity and the introduction of television and computers and vastly more sedentary jobs. But yes, let's link it to GMO instead. Oh, and soda. :coffee:

Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:06 pm
by Ibanez
GannonFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:So is there is no correlation between the rise of obesity and the introduction of genetically modified foods?
Well, the same correlation exists between the rise of obesity and the introduction of television and computers and vastly more sedentary jobs. But yes, let's link it to GMO instead. Oh, and soda. :coffee:
I wasn't dismissing the idea. I was asking a question. Of course, there's a lot more SODA today than there probably was 60 years ago.

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SODA - Sittin On Dat Ass

Re: RE: Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:14 pm
by SeattleGriz
Pwns wrote:
kalm wrote: How is biogenetically modified corn good for biodiversity and less damaging to the environment? :suspicious:
Because scientific consensus you conk, science-denying philistine. :ohno:




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But seriously, how is introducing something new into a corn's gene pool bad for biodiversity? Isn't that pretty much increasing biodiversity?
Horizontal gene transfer to your microbiome, which then affects them in a negative way, which lead to inflammation issues.

Only one study has been done on this thought and it showed (the horizontal gene transfer part) to happen.

But the bigger issue is they spray GMO foods with glyphosate and their accompanying surfactants and that was recently categorized as a probable carcinogen, although that is being battled as well.

A European group recently demonstrated glyphosate is in human bodies in greater concentration than what is allowed in water. Glyphosate wrecks your microbiome, which then causes a multitude of issues including the above referenced inflammatory issues.

Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:27 pm
by kalm
Pwns wrote:
Ibanez wrote:So is there is no correlation between the rise of obesity and the introduction of genetically modified foods?
There probably is, just like you could probably draw a correlation between percent of Americans identifying as non-religious and obesity.

I don't know of any GMO foods where the spliced gene increases the energy content of the food. The one food that's had a lot of controversy around it is the golden rice (basically rice with a beta carotene gene added to it). Vitamin A doesn't really have any energy content so it's not plausible that it could be responsible for obesity.
12 species of plants represent 75% of our food supply.

Is biodiversity as evil as cultural diversity? :twisted:

Is monoculture good for the environment?

Re: RE: Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:40 pm
by SDHornet
SeattleGriz wrote:
Pwns wrote:
Because scientific consensus you conk, science-denying philistine. :ohno:




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But seriously, how is introducing something new into a corn's gene pool bad for biodiversity? Isn't that pretty much increasing biodiversity?
Horizontal gene transfer to your microbiome, which then affects them in a negative way, which lead to inflammation issues.

Only one study has been done on this thought and it showed (the horizontal gene transfer part) to happen.

But the bigger issue is they spray GMO foods with glyphosate and their accompanying surfactants and that was recently categorized as a probable carcinogen, although that is being battled as well.

A European group recently demonstrated glyphosate is in human bodies in greater concentration than what is allowed in water. Glyphosate wrecks your microbiome, which then causes a multitude of issues including the above referenced inflammatory issues.
Nerd alert, nerd alert, nerd alert!!!!
;)

Had the folks in town a few weeks ago and I took them to one of the few tourist traps around. While there, I had an obese hippie ask me, "So are you ready to help save the planet?".
I looked down and saw he had a big greenpeace shirt on. I told him I was good and walked off in laughter. :lol:

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:00 pm
by SeattleGriz
SDHornet wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote: Horizontal gene transfer to your microbiome, which then affects them in a negative way, which lead to inflammation issues.

Only one study has been done on this thought and it showed (the horizontal gene transfer part) to happen.

But the bigger issue is they spray GMO foods with glyphosate and their accompanying surfactants and that was recently categorized as a probable carcinogen, although that is being battled as well.

A European group recently demonstrated glyphosate is in human bodies in greater concentration than what is allowed in water. Glyphosate wrecks your microbiome, which then causes a multitude of issues including the above referenced inflammatory issues.
Nerd alert, nerd alert, nerd alert!!!!
;)

Had the folks in town a few weeks ago and I took them to one of the few tourist traps around. While there, I had an obese hippie ask me, "So are you ready to help save the planet?".
I looked down and saw he had a big greenpeace shirt on. I told him I was good and walked off in laughter. :lol:
I'm closer to a dork!

Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:45 pm
by CAA Flagship
grizzaholic wrote:Greenpeace is a terrorist organization.
So is Iowa. What's your point?

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:46 pm
by CAA Flagship
SeattleGriz wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Nerd alert, nerd alert, nerd alert!!!!
;)

Had the folks in town a few weeks ago and I took them to one of the few tourist traps around. While there, I had an obese hippie ask me, "So are you ready to help save the planet?".
I looked down and saw he had a big greenpeace shirt on. I told him I was good and walked off in laughter. :lol:
I'm closer to a dork!
No. kalm may be in the same state, but he's not close to you at all.

Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:06 pm
by YoUDeeMan
kalm wrote:
Is biodiversity as evil as cultural diversity? :twisted:

Is monoculture good for the environment?
Interesting questions.

We seem to be stomping out true diversity and hoping that everyone blends into one happy melting pot. Will we become, as a species, one bland stew?

I don't like to have my meals served up in a blender.

Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:23 pm
by Bisonoline
Pwns wrote:
kalm wrote: But seriously, how is introducing something new into a corn's gene pool bad for biodiversity? Isn't that pretty much increasing biodiversity?

So an Iowa field is more biodiverse than 100 years ago? Are there more species of corn being raised today? How is the environment better?
Why does the field itself need to have biodiversity? We've been doing selective breeding on plants and animals since forever. How is that selective breeding on such a small percentage of species in the world going to threaten diversity?
Didnt the ancient Egyptians modify wheat and or corn?

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Greenpeace rebuked by Nobel Laureates

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:33 am
by kalm
CAA Flagship wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote: I'm closer to a dork!
No. kalm may be in the same state, but he's not close to you at all.
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