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The head of Seattle Tacoma's transportation Security
threatens to privatize security processes at America's 12th busiest Airport if the TSA can't get it's sh!t together



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -privatiz/

Fed will come in, threaten to take away funding if they don't use TSA, and that will be the end of that.

Just had an international flight a few weeks back, the wifey had an epi pen in her carry on that immediately flagged Mexican airport security. We flew into Orange County to connect back to Sac. Had to re-enter security after getting through customs...not a peep from TSA about her epi pen. Great people we have working at TSA...real diligent...we should all feel very safe.

SDHornet wrote:Fed will come in, threaten to take away funding if they don't use TSA, and that will be the end of that.

Just had an international flight a few weeks back, the wifey had an epi pen in her carry on that immediately flagged Mexican airport security. We flew into Orange County to connect back to Sac. Had to re-enter security after getting through customs...not a peep from TSA about her epi pen. Great people we have working at TSA...real diligent...we should all feel very safe.

Another conk-made Federal bureaucracy.

Conks.

houndawg wrote:

SDHornet wrote:Fed will come in, threaten to take away funding if they don't use TSA, and that will be the end of that.

Just had an international flight a few weeks back, the wifey had an epi pen in her carry on that immediately flagged Mexican airport security. We flew into Orange County to connect back to Sac. Had to re-enter security after getting through customs...not a peep from TSA about her epi pen. Great people we have working at TSA...real diligent...we should all feel very safe.

Another unionized Federal bureaucracy.

Unions.

FIFY

SDHornet wrote:Fed will come in, threaten to take away funding if they don't use TSA, and that will be the end of that.

Just had an international flight a few weeks back, the wifey had an epi pen in her carry on that immediately flagged Mexican airport security. We flew into Orange County to connect back to Sac. Had to re-enter security after getting through customs...not a peep from TSA about her epi pen. Great people we have working at TSA...real diligent...we should all feel very safe.

These are the same people that let me take a corkscrew onto a flight to Germany.

SDHornet wrote:Fed will come in, threaten to take away funding if they don't use TSA, and that will be the end of that.

Just had an international flight a few weeks back, the wifey had an epi pen in her carry on that immediately flagged Mexican airport security. We flew into Orange County to connect back to Sac. Had to re-enter security after getting through customs...not a peep from TSA about her epi pen. Great people we have working at TSA...real diligent...we should all feel very safe.

Actually there is no official process associated with "utilizing" the TSA in Airports
The Governor has already made this clear

The TSA Agents are assigned to Sea/Tac Airport - true but
Nowhere does it say that the Airport cannot put a private entity in charge of security
thus telling all the TSA agents to effectively "Go stand over there out of the way"

Chizzang wrote:

SDHornet wrote:Fed will come in, threaten to take away funding if they don't use TSA, and that will be the end of that.

Just had an international flight a few weeks back, the wifey had an epi pen in her carry on that immediately flagged Mexican airport security. We flew into Orange County to connect back to Sac. Had to re-enter security after getting through customs...not a peep from TSA about her epi pen. Great people we have working at TSA...real diligent...we should all feel very safe.

Actually there is no official process associated with "utilizing" the TSA in Airports
The Governor has already made this clear

The TSA Agents are assigned to Sea/Tac Airport - true but
Nowhere does it say that the Airport cannot put a private entity in charge of security
thus telling all the TSA agents to effectively "Go stand over there out of the way"

For your sake I hope Washington and Sea/Tac have the bankroll to fight TSA's union. Should be an interesting ordeal to follow. Keep us informed on how it goes.

There are over 350 "primary" airports in the US, defined by wiki as "provide scheduled passenger services and have over 10,000 passenger boardings per year". In 2002 the TSA awarded PP5 contracts to 6 airports to have private security instead of TSA:
-San Francisco
-Kansas City
-Rochester
-Jackson Hole
-Tupelo
-Sioux Falls.

That has since been expanded to 22 primary airports, with the following 16 added:
-Bert Mooney Airport
-Bozeman Yellowstone International Airport
-Charles M. Schulz–Sonoma County Airport
-Dawson Community Airport
-Glacier Park International Airport
-Havre City-County Airport
-Key West International Airport
-L. M. Clayton Airport
-Orlando Sanford International Airport
-Portsmouth International Airport
-Punta Gorda Airport
-Roswell International Air Center
-Sarasota-Bradenton International Airport
-Sidney-Richland Municipal Airport
-Wokal Field/Glasgow International Airport
-Yellowstone Airport
https://www.tsa.gov/for-industry/screening-partnerships

Looks like 7 of those are in Montana. The only Cat X airport (top 25 in US) I see on that list is San Francisco. Don't confuse Orlando Sanford (SFB) with Orlando International (MCO). In terms of the busiest in 2014 by passenger enplanements, SFO was 7th and SEA-TAC was 13th, so if it works at SFO, it should work at SEA-TAC..

Security industrial complex........

We'll show you, SeaTac! We'll start routing all flights through Spokumpton!

BDKJMU wrote:There are over 350 "primary" airports in the US, defined by wiki as "provide scheduled passenger services and have over 10,000 passenger boardings per year". In 2002 the TSA awarded PP5 contracts to 6 airports to have private security instead of TSA:
-San Francisco
-Kansas City
-Rochester
-Jackson Hole
-Tupelo
-Sioux Falls.

That has since been expanded to 22 primary airports, with the following 16 added:
-Bert Mooney Airport
-Bozeman Yellowstone International Airport
-Charles M. Schulz–Sonoma County Airport
-Dawson Community Airport
-Glacier Park International Airport
-Havre City-County Airport
-Key West International Airport
-L. M. Clayton Airport
-Orlando Sanford International Airport
-Portsmouth International Airport
-Punta Gorda Airport
-Roswell International Air Center
-Sarasota-Bradenton International Airport
-Sidney-Richland Municipal Airport
-Wokal Field/Glasgow International Airport
-Yellowstone Airport
https://www.tsa.gov/for-industry/screening-partnerships

Looks like 7 of those are in Montana. The only Cat X airport (top 25 in US) I see on that list is San Francisco. Don't confuse Orlando Sanford (SFB) with Orlando International (MCO). In terms of the busiest in 2014 by passenger enplanements, SFO was 7th and SEA-TAC was 13th, so if it works at SFO, it should work at SEA-TAC..

Why in the world does Montana need 7 airports? I mean, there's like 8 people on the entire state that can afford a plane ticket.

Ibanez wrote:
Why in the world does Montana need 7 airports? I mean, there's like 8 people on the entire state that can afford a plane ticket.

Well having landed at most of them in Montana...
The word "Airport" isn't probably the most accurate word

Chizzang wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
Why in the world does Montana need 7 airports? I mean, there's like 8 people on the entire state that can afford a plane ticket.

Well having landed at most of them in Montana...
The word "Airport" isn't probably the most accurate word

Oh hell. That's many of the farms around here

Ibanez wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Well having landed at most of them in Montana...
The word "Airport" isn't probably the most accurate word

Oh hell. That's many of the farms around here

I don't see you mounting any animals, so I'm not sure that pic is an accurate representation?

Grizalltheway wrote:

Ibanez wrote: Oh hell. That's many of the farms around here

I don't see you mounting any animals, so I'm not sure that pic is an accurate representation?

This isn't show and tell

Ibanez wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote: I don't see you mounting any animals, so I'm not sure that pic is an accurate representation?

This isn't show and tell

How about truth or dare?

Ivytalk wrote:We'll show you, SeaTac! We'll start routing all flights through Spokumpton!

You just wait till Moses Lake gets high speed rail to the lesser side of the mountains, mister! JAL trains at the old AFB there and it's a super runway!

Grizalltheway wrote:

Ibanez wrote: Oh hell. That's many of the farms around here

I don't see you mounting any animals, so I'm not sure that pic is an accurate representation?

Hah! That's most of the farms from my part of NC. Grew up on one - except we were rich.... we had a TWO plane hangar

Chizzang wrote:The head of Seattle Tacoma's transportation Security
threatens to privatize security processes at America's 12th busiest Airport if the TSA can't get it's sh!t together



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -privatiz/

What we need, you see, is Bernie Sanders.

He'll triple the size of TSA (and if you triple the size of something, you triple the efficiency!)

Grizalltheway wrote:

Ibanez wrote: This isn't show and tell

How about truth or dare?

I'm more of a "never have I ever" guy.

CID1990 wrote:

Chizzang wrote:The head of Seattle Tacoma's transportation Security
threatens to privatize security processes at America's 12th busiest Airport if the TSA can't get it's sh!t together



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -privatiz/

What we need, you see, is Bernie Sanders.

He'll triple the size of TSA (and if you triple the size of something, you triple the efficiency!)

hmmm...
'll take Sarcasm for $400 Alex

I agree that one was only worth $400


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Does it really matter? The airport's security funding will still come from TSA and instead of the employees being federal, they'll just be private. The same people will still be applying for these jobs. San Fran and a few other airports have done this already, but even the private contractors have to follow the rules the TSA put into place. Just seems like a privatized TSA lol.

∞∞∞ wrote:Does it really matter? The airport's security funding will still come from TSA and instead of the employees being federal, they'll just be private. The same people will still be applying for these jobs. San Fran and a few other airports have done this already, but even the private contractors have to follow the rules the TSA put into place. Just seems like a privatized TSA lol.

You're missing a big difference-

A private security firm would use contract labor.

Part of why TSA is so screwed up is they can't get rid of the bad ones (and they're legion there) because the minute the TSA was stood up it became an organized labor cesspool.

You can fire contractors with or without cause.... whatever the hell you want to do

Then 5 years after SeaTac goes private, there will be all kinds of media concern trolling (with the KING of concern trolls... 60 Minutes leading the way) whining about how bad working conditions are for the people who keep us safe.

CID1990 wrote:

∞∞∞ wrote:Does it really matter? The airport's security funding will still come from TSA and instead of the employees being federal, they'll just be private. The same people will still be applying for these jobs. San Fran and a few other airports have done this already, but even the private contractors have to follow the rules the TSA put into place. Just seems like a privatized TSA lol.

You're missing a big difference-

A private security firm would use contract labor.

Part of why TSA is so screwed up is they can't get rid of the bad ones (and they're legion there) because the minute the TSA was stood up it became an organized labor cesspool.

You can fire contractors with or without cause.... whatever the hell you want to do

Then 5 years after SeaTac goes private, there will be all kinds of media concern trolling (with the KING of concern trolls... 60 Minutes leading the way) whining about how bad working conditions are for the people who keep us safe.

That's a fair enough point.