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JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:56 am
by Ibanez
Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:09 am
by kalm
It's awesome because Trump (and his success) is the absolute reflection of the Republican Party and it's freaking those folks the fuck out.

Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:48 am
by ASUG8
I've never liked Trump, but he's past the point of embarrassing the party - he's so contradictory I'm not sure you can even say for certain to which party he belongs. The third grade insults, lack of substance, and general arrogance have me pointed toward anyone but him at this point. The sound bites from last nights' "performance" are just ridiculous.
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Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:04 am
by houndawg
After spending 45 years crafting a base from the most ignorant and bigoted people in the nation, an outsider has waltzed in, stolen their creation, and is now beating the living shit out of them with it and they're so feeble-minded that they can't even see the humor in the situation. Which you have to admit is absofuckinglutely hilarious. Poor dumb rednecks were supposed to do what they was told....
Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:05 am
by CAA Flagship
kalm wrote:It's awesome because Trump (and his success) is the absolute reflection of the Republican Party and it's freaking those folks the fuck out.

....and is the absolute reaction to Obama and the Donks.
Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:13 am
by kalm
Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly's popularity tipped the hand.
Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:39 am
by ASUG8
kalm wrote:
Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly's popularity tipped the hand.
I normally don't find much fault with Zakaria, but I somewhat disagree. To say that the conks have cornered the market on populism after two Obama terms is a misnomer. Additionally, I think we've seen race relations fall to a new low under this administration, which certainly can't be placed solely on republicans. And 20 years ago we were in the middle of the first Clinton administration.
I do agree that Trump is checking a lot of boxes for a lot of people. Americans have been afraid since 9/11 and any politician in this era who can effectively sell fear (of minorities, of muslims, of immigrants, etc.) will do well.
Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:44 am
by houndawg
kalm wrote:
Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly's popularity tipped the hand.
"Flirted" with bigotry and racism?
It's called the "southern strategy".

Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:31 am
by Pwns
The Republican base is like a teenage girl finding a boyfriend with a tattoo, black leather jacket, and a motorcycle because she's angry with her dad. It'll pass.
Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:40 am
by SDHornet
ASUG8 wrote:I've never liked Trump, but he's past the point of embarrassing the party - he's so contradictory I'm not sure you can even say for certain to which party he belongs. The third grade insults, lack of substance, and general arrogance have me pointed toward anyone but him at this point. The sound bites from last nights' "performance" are just ridiculous.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwDvF0NtgdU[/youtube]

Nailed it. I caught about 20 minutes of the debate (ironically the immigration portion

) and heard Trump scramble his way out of his hard line stance on illegal immigration. Heard Rubio and Cruz take him to town for hiring foreign workers over Americans at his Palm Beach hotel, which of course fed into the supposed tapes that the NY Times (or another paper, I forget) has that supposedly outlines Trump saying he is outright lying to the conks (I realize that the tapes issue is all he said she said, so I'm not putting a lot of stock in its existence). Trump then went on to claim he'll make deals cause that is what a President is suppose to do.
So out of that 20 minutes or so that I listened to, how exactly is he the hard liner that is going to blow the system up?
Cluck, you there? Paging Clucky. Paging clucky...
Trump just epictrolled the conks in a serious way.

Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:41 am
by SDHornet
houndawg wrote:After spending 45 years crafting a base from the most ignorant and bigoted people in the nation, an outsider has waltzed in, stolen their creation, and is now beating the living shit out of them with it and they're so feeble-minded that they can't even see the humor in the situation. Which you have to admit is absofuckinglutely hilarious. Poor dumb rednecks were supposed to do what they was told....

Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:07 am
by YoUDeeMan
kalm wrote:
Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly's popularity tipped the hand.
Incredibly dumb thing to write. This guy had an opportunity, many years ago, to be relevant. He's been disappointing ever since.

Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:23 am
by Ivytalk
Cluck U wrote:kalm wrote:
Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly's popularity tipped the hand.
Incredibly dumb thing to write. This guy had an opportunity, many years ago, to be relevant. He's been disappointing ever since.

Yeah, he's just another Donk scold now, and a Muslin to boot (although he calls himself "secular").
Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 12:51 pm
by YoUDeeMan
Ivytalk wrote:Cluck U wrote:
Incredibly dumb thing to write. This guy had an opportunity, many years ago, to be relevant. He's been disappointing ever since.

Yeah, he's just another Donk scold now, and a Muslin to boot (although he calls himself "secular").
Hey, I've heard of, and read, someone you also know.
See...all we have to do is keep finding common ground. Someday we will share crabs...and I won't make you pick up the check.

Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 2:48 pm
by Chizzang
No self respecting Conservative would ever allow themselves to agree publicly with the Fareed post...
But its absolutely all the reasons I love TRUMP
there's no reason for me to pretend it's not...

Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:21 pm
by JohnStOnge
houndawg wrote:After spending 45 years crafting a base from the most ignorant and bigoted people in the nation, an outsider has waltzed in, stolen their creation, and is now beating the living **** out of them with it and they're so feeble-minded that they can't even see the humor in the situation. Which you have to admit is absofuckinglutely hilarious. Poor dumb rednecks were supposed to do what they was told....
I hate to break this to you but, though I don't know about the most bigoted part, the Democratic Party has the more ignorant base among the two major parties, and I'm confident that exit polling will once again support that assessment.
I also think that a lot of Trump's support is coming from outside of what has traditionally been the Republican Party. Not that there aren't a whole lot of people who have been Republicans for a while with him. But I also think there are a lot of people who haven't been Republicans who are voting in Republican primaries for him.
Here's an article on an example of what I'm talking about (in Massachusetts, of all places):
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_pol ... atic_party
Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:29 pm
by JohnStOnge
Pwns wrote:The Republican base is like a teenage girl finding a boyfriend with a tattoo, black leather jacket, and a motorcycle because she's angry with her dad. It'll pass.
I don't think Trump is the favorite of what in the past has been the "Republican Base." I don't have a scientific poll but I obviously know a lot of people who have been part of that. My wife has been a very active Tea Party type Republican for a while now. She became a member of the State Republican Central Committee when she was drafted to run for that by people who were against the Republican establishment. My son was real big in the Tea Party movement. My daughter too.
All of them are horrified by Trump. All have said they absolutely would not vote for him in the general election just as I have. They have said they will either abstain or vote for a third party candidate. I might actually vote for the Democratic nominee. If it looks like Louisiana is close I will do that. As bad as whoever the Democrat nominee would be, they can't be as bad as Trump.
I've also talked to other family members, people at work, etc., who I know to have been Republicans for a long time. Not a single one of them likes Trump. All of them are, like my immediate family, horrified by what is going on and none of them can believe this is happening.
Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:34 pm
by JohnStOnge
Did y'all notice that Trump said he'd save $300 billion in medicare spending by controlling prescription costs when Medicare spends about $140 billion per year on prescriptions?
I swear, the fact that ANYBODY would vote for that buffoon/arsehole much less have THIS going on is surreal.
Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:38 pm
by Ivytalk
JohnStOnge wrote:Did y'all notice that Trump said he'd save $300 billion in medicare spending by controlling prescription costs when Medicare spends about $140 billion per year on prescriptions?
I swear, the fact that ANYBODY would vote for that buffoon/arsehole much less have THIS going on is surreal.

Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:24 pm
by kalm
JohnStOnge wrote:Pwns wrote:The Republican base is like a teenage girl finding a boyfriend with a tattoo, black leather jacket, and a motorcycle because she's angry with her dad. It'll pass.
I don't think Trump is the favorite of what in the past has been the "Republican Base." I don't have a scientific poll but I obviously know a lot of people who have been part of that. My wife has been a very active Tea Party type Republican for a while now. She became a member of the State Republican Central Committee when she was drafted to run for that by people who were against the Republican establishment. My son was real big in the Tea Party movement. My daughter too.
All of them are horrified by Trump. All have said they absolutely would not vote for him in the general election just as I have. They have said they will either abstain or vote for a third party candidate. I might actually vote for the Democratic nominee. If it looks like Louisiana is close I will do that. As bad as whoever the Democrat nominee would be, they can't be as bad as Trump.
I've also talked to other family members, people at work, etc., who I know to have been Republicans for a long time. Not a single one of them likes Trump. All of them are, like my immediate family, horrified by what is going on and none of them can believe this is happening.
Seriously. Why are ya'll horrified by him? How are other Republicans different? He honestly seems right in your wheel house.

Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:32 pm
by houndawg
JohnStOnge wrote:houndawg wrote:After spending 45 years crafting a base from the most ignorant and bigoted people in the nation, an outsider has waltzed in, stolen their creation, and is now beating the living **** out of them with it and they're so feeble-minded that they can't even see the humor in the situation. Which you have to admit is absofuckinglutely hilarious. Poor dumb rednecks were supposed to do what they was told....
I hate to break this to you but, though I don't know about the most bigoted part, the Democratic Party has the more ignorant base among the two major parties, and I'm confident that exit polling will once again support that assessment.
I also think that a lot of Trump's support is coming from outside of what has traditionally been the Republican Party. Not that there aren't a whole lot of people who have been Republicans for a while with him. But I also think there are a lot of people who haven't been Republicans who are voting in Republican primaries for him.
Here's an article on an example of what I'm talking about (in Massachusetts, of all places):
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_pol ... atic_party
You're trying to change the subject, start a different thread if you want to compare bases.
You're wrong as usual. Trump is shoving the bigoted base the establishment created right up their conk arses and it is fvcking hilarious to behold.
Nobody gives a fvck what a bunch of feral, in-bred no-hopers in Piss, LA. think.

Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:23 pm
by SDHornet
houndawg wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:
I hate to break this to you but, though I don't know about the most bigoted part, the Democratic Party has the more ignorant base among the two major parties, and I'm confident that exit polling will once again support that assessment.
I also think that a lot of Trump's support is coming from outside of what has traditionally been the Republican Party. Not that there aren't a whole lot of people who have been Republicans for a while with him. But I also think there are a lot of people who haven't been Republicans who are voting in Republican primaries for him.
Here's an article on an example of what I'm talking about (in Massachusetts, of all places):
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_pol ... atic_party
You're trying to change the subject, start a different thread if you want to compare bases.
You're wrong as usual.
Trump is shoving the bigoted base the establishment created right up their conk arses and it is fvcking hilarious to behold.
Nobody gives a fvck what a bunch of feral, in-bred no-hopers in Piss, LA. think.

And it is a spectacular shit show to watch.

Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:05 pm
by BDKJMU
JohnStOnge wrote:Pwns wrote:The Republican base is like a teenage girl finding a boyfriend with a tattoo, black leather jacket, and a motorcycle because she's angry with her dad. It'll pass.
I don't think Trump is the favorite of what in the past has been the "Republican Base." I don't have a scientific poll but I obviously know a lot of people who have been part of that. My wife has been a very active Tea Party type Republican for a while now. She became a member of the State Republican Central Committee when she was drafted to run for that by people who were against the Republican establishment. My son was real big in the Tea Party movement. My daughter too.
All of them are horrified by Trump. All have said they absolutely would not vote for him in the general election just as I have. They have said they will either abstain or vote for a third party candidate.
I might actually vote for the Democratic nominee. If it looks like Louisiana is close I will do that. As bad as whoever the Democrat nominee would be, they can't be as bad as Trump.
I've also talked to other family members, people at work, etc., who I know to have been Republicans for a long time. Not a single one of them likes Trump. All of them are, like my immediate family, horrified by what is going on and none of them can believe this is happening.
Voting 3rd party or staying at home is one thing. But only a phony conservative would ever vote for Hildabeast under ANY circumstances..
Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:28 pm
by JohnStOnge
Voting 3rd party or staying at home is one thing. But only a phony conservative would ever vote for Hildabeast under ANY circumstances.
I disagree. A year ago I could never have envisioned a circumstance in which I would vote for Hillary. But the emergence of Donald Trump has changed things. There is no way that I could ever vote in a way that would increase the chances of Donald Trump being President. As bad as Hillary being President would be, Donald Trump being President would be worse.
As I told my wife a couple of months ago: If we got into a theoretical situation in which my vote was going to decide who would be President between Hillary and Trump, I would have to hold my nose really hard and vote for Hillary.
If it's Trump vs. Hillary in the general election and it looks like Louisiana is in play I am going to vote for Hillary.
Re: JSO Trump Threads
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:50 pm
by houndawg
JohnStOnge wrote:Voting 3rd party or staying at home is one thing. But only a phony conservative would ever vote for Hildabeast under ANY circumstances.
I disagree.
A year ago I could never have envisioned a circumstance in which I would vote for Hillary. But the emergence of Donald Trump has changed things. There is no way that I could ever vote in a way that would increase the chances of Donald Trump being President. As bad as Hillary being President would be, Donald Trump being President would be worse.
As I told my wife a couple of months ago: If we got into a theoretical situation in which my vote was going to decide who would be President between Hillary and Trump, I would have to hold my nose really hard and vote for Hillary.
If it's Trump vs. Hillary in the general election and it looks like Louisiana is in play I am going to vote for Hillary.
sounds like your backbone has been replaced by nuance.
