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The story in the immediate aftermath was that he was gracious. So much for that. You know what I'm talking about.

More evidence that he has the emotional maturity of a middle school kid.

JohnStOnge wrote:The story in the immediate aftermath was that he was gracious. So much for that. You know what I'm talking about.

More evidence that he has the emotional maturity of a middle school kid.

Uh, no..what the hell are you talking about? Link?

If someone doesn't provide links and evidence to back up what they are saying, then they might as well be yelling, "Hey, my daddy is better than your daddy!"

In other words, someone like that would have the emotional maturity of a middle school kid.

Is this JSOs 5th Trump thread? I think he's sweet on the guy.

Ibanez wrote:Is this JSOs 5th Trump thread? I think he's sweet on the guy.

Beat me to it. Obsess much, John?

I just checked out the RCP averages for NH, South Carolina, and Florida. Trump is up 21, 16, and 21.

Rubio needs to close the gap quickly or it's over.

kalm wrote:I just checked out the RCP averages for NH, South Carolina, and Florida. Trump is up 21, 16, and 21.

Rubio needs to close the gap quickly or it's over.

While Trump is up 21 in NH, Rubio has closed the gap in one poll from 30 points from the 1/29-1/31 poll to 21 points in the 2/1-2/3 poll so he has started to close that gap

South Carolina Poll is 16 (23.3 over Rubio) but that was for polls between 1/15-1/23 so no post-Iowa polls yet

Florida is at 21 (26.3 over Rubio) but those were polls 1/15-1/21 so no post-Iowa polls yet

Nevada on February 23 has Trump up 13 (22 over Rubio) in a poll covering 12/23-12/27 so old one

Trump was 11.7 in the final average RCP Iowa poll over Rubio

tribe_pride wrote:

kalm wrote:I just checked out the RCP averages for NH, South Carolina, and Florida. Trump is up 21, 16, and 21.

Rubio needs to close the gap quickly or it's over.

While Trump is up 21 in NH, Rubio has closed the gap in one poll from 30 points from the 1/29-1/31 poll to 21 points in the 2/1-2/3 poll so he has started to close that gap

South Carolina Poll is 16 (23.3 over Rubio) but that was for polls between 1/15-1/23 so no post-Iowa polls yet

Florida is at 21 (26.3 over Rubio) but those were polls 1/15-1/21 so no post-Iowa polls yet

Nevada on February 23 has Trump up 13 (22 over Rubio) in a poll covering 12/23-12/27 so old one

Trump was 11.7 in the final average RCP Iowa poll over Rubio

Good catch.

The Umass/Lowel poll (don't know their track record) has him up 24 post debate.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... y-24-in-nh" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

JohnStOnge wrote:
More evidence that he has the emotional maturity of a middle school kid.

Yoo-hoo, JSO. What evidence?

Christ, you will blather on in great detail about some things (and I, for one, enjoy your stats and the way you back up most of your thinking...most people on this site simply say, "yeah, but my grandmother's cousin said the guy is an innocent teddy bear")...yet you provide NOTHING on this thread to back up your insult to Trump.

John, you are disappointing me. Don't be an emotional, effeminate it-is-that-time-of-the-month headcase like dback.

Cluck U wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
More evidence that he has the emotional maturity of a middle school kid.

Yoo-hoo, JSO. What evidence?

Christ, you will blather on in great detail about some things (and I, for one, enjoy your stats and the way you back up most of your thinking...most people on this site simply say, "yeah, but my grandmother's cousin said the guy is an innocent teddy bear")...yet you provide NOTHING on this thread to back up your insult to Trump.

John, you are disappointing me. Don't be an emotional, effeminate it-is-that-time-of-the-month headcase like dback.

I think he is referring to Trumps, atypical concession speech on Monday night and this his tantrum yesterday.

"Ted Cruz didn't win Iowa, he stole it," Trump tweeted. "That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated."

Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified,"

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/03/politics/ ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ibanez wrote:

Cluck U wrote:
Yoo-hoo, JSO. What evidence?

Christ, you will blather on in great detail about some things (and I, for one, enjoy your stats and the way you back up most of your thinking...most people on this site simply say, "yeah, but my grandmother's cousin said the guy is an innocent teddy bear")...yet you provide NOTHING on this thread to back up your insult to Trump.

John, you are disappointing me. Don't be an emotional, effeminate it-is-that-time-of-the-month headcase like dback.

I think he is referring to Trumps, atypical concession speech on Monday night and this his tantrum yesterday.

"Ted Cruz didn't win Iowa, he stole it," Trump tweeted. "That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated."

Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified,"

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/03/politics/ ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Actually, after reading what the Cruz campaign did, I agree with Trump.

They told people that Ben Carson had quit his campaign (which he didn't) and to vote for Cruz instead.

That is a lie...and it is not what CNN reported. And Cruz is standing by the campaign person that spread that false information...while trying, initially, to blame the report on CNN.

Cruz is a liar and he is standing by his lying sack of shIt campaign staffer who spread that lie.

What Cruz did (between the misleading mailer before the caucus, and what he did during the caucus regarding Carson, was slimy beyond all belief.


In this case, Trump is correct.

Cluck U wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
I think he is referring to Trumps, atypical concession speech on Monday night and this his tantrum yesterday.




http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/03/politics/ ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Actually, after reading what the Cruz campaign did, I agree with Trump.

They told people that Ben Carson had quit his campaign (which he didn't) and to vote for Cruz instead.

That is a lie...and it is not what CNN reported. And Cruz is standing by the campaign person that spread that false information...while trying, initially, to blame the report on CNN.

Cruz is a liar and he is standing by his lying sack of shIt campaign staffer who spread that lie.

I agree with you on that.

dbackjon wrote:What Cruz did (between the misleading mailer before the caucus, and what he did during the caucus regarding Carson, was slimy beyond all belief.


In this case, Trump is correct.

+4

Cluck U wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
I think he is referring to Trumps, atypical concession speech on Monday night and this his tantrum yesterday.




http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/03/politics/ ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Actually, after reading what the Cruz campaign did, I agree with Trump.

They told people that Ben Carson had quit his campaign (which he didn't) and to vote for Cruz instead.

That is a lie...and it is not what CNN reported. And Cruz is standing by the campaign person that spread that false information...while trying, initially, to blame the report on CNN.

Cruz is a liar and he is standing by his lying sack of shIt campaign staffer who spread that lie.

Meh. This is just a page out of the Clinton playbook, I don't understand the outrage. The rest of the conks should just use this as practice against shady campaigning, they'll see plenty of it when they face hildabeast.

Also Carson's votes will go to Cruz when he finally drops out so those are really Cruz votes anyways via transitive theory.

Let's face it, Politics is a dirty sport. Is anyone surprised that a politician spun an announcement to their advantage?

Also, Carson is taking a hit for leaving Iowa and not going to the next state. Today he's in DC. He's not in NH or South Carolina. What sort of message does that send?

Ibanez wrote:Let's face it, Politics is a dirty sport. Is anyone surprised that a politician spun an announcement to their advantage?

Also, Carson is taking a hit for leaving Iowa and not going to the next state. Today he's in DC. He's not in NH or South Carolina. What sort of message does that send?

That he wants to be Surgeon General

DSUrocks07 wrote:

Ibanez wrote:Let's face it, Politics is a dirty sport. Is anyone surprised that a politician spun an announcement to their advantage?

Also, Carson is taking a hit for leaving Iowa and not going to the next state. Today he's in DC. He's not in NH or South Carolina. What sort of message does that send?

That he wants to be Surgeon General

He's qualified:

Surgeon? Check
ROTC? Check

kalm wrote:I just checked out the RCP averages for NH, South Carolina, and Florida. Trump is up 21, 16, and 21.

Rubio needs to close the gap quickly or it's over.

You mean Cruz needs to close the gap quickly or its over, as Cruz is clser to Trump in the aggregate. Trump's up more than that over Rubio in 2 of those 3:

NH: Trump 32.8, Rubio 11.8, Cruz 11.3 (4 polls 1/27-2/3).
SC: Trump 36, Cruz 19.7, Rubio 12.7 (4 polls 1/15-1/23)
FL: Trump 41, Cruz 19, Rubio 13.7 (3 polls 1/15-1/21)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -3350.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I imagine Cruz & Rubio have closed the gap some in those 3, esp SC & FL which are 2-3 weeks old)..Regardless, this thing isn't going to be decided until at least Super Tues, and maybe even mid March..

Moved to primary thread....

BDKJMU wrote:

kalm wrote:I just checked out the RCP averages for NH, South Carolina, and Florida. Trump is up 21, 16, and 21.

Rubio needs to close the gap quickly or it's over.

You mean Cruz needs to close the gap quickly or its over, as Cruz is clser to Trump in the aggregate. Trump's up more than that over Rubio in 2 of those 3:

NH: Trump 32.8, Rubio 11.8, Cruz 11.3 (4 polls 1/27-2/3).
SC: Trump 36, Cruz 19.7, Rubio 12.7 (4 polls 1/15-1/23)
FL: Trump 41, Cruz 19, Rubio 13.7 (3 polls 1/15-1/21)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -3350.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I imagine Cruz & Rubio have closed the gap some in those 3, esp SC & FL which are 2-3 weeks old)..Regardless, this thing isn't going to be decided until at least Super Tues, and maybe even mid March..

Cruz is absolutely unelectable and Trump is a better wing-nut candidate. I think it will come down to Trump and Rubio.

SDHornet wrote: Meh. This is just a page out of the Clinton playbook, I don't understand the outrage.

Most normal people would be outraged that a potential leader of our country is willfully lying to the public in order to gain power.

But, I guess that stuff is now considered business as normal on Team Brown?



I want Trump and Bernie to win their side of the primaries. Somehow we have to break down the "normalcy" of our country's politics being run by insider shytheads. Indeed, I'll take four years of a whacky President (Bernie or Trump) if it dislodges the existing dysfunctional political sham of a system we have now, and otherwise will have forever.

We need at least a viable third party...and perhaps a Trump/Bernie win would shatter the middle of each of our two parties and release them from being held hostage by the political extremism we see from both side these days.

Go Trump-Bernie!

Cluck U wrote:

SDHornet wrote: Meh. This is just a page out of the Clinton playbook, I don't understand the outrage.

Most normal people would be outraged that a potential leader of our country is willfully lying to the public in order to gain power.

But, I guess that stuff is now considered business as normal on Team Brown?



I want Trump and Bernie to win their side of the primaries. Somehow we have to break down the "normalcy" of our country's politics being run by insider shytheads. Indeed, I'll take four years of a whacky President (Bernie or Trump) if it dislodges the existing dysfunctional political sham of a system we have now, and otherwise will have forever.

We need at least a viable third party...and perhaps a Trump/Bernie win would shatter the middle of each of our two parties and release them from being held hostage by the political extremism we see from both side these days.

Go Trump-Bernie!

This. 1000 X This.

kalm wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
You mean Cruz needs to close the gap quickly or its over, as Cruz is clser to Trump in the aggregate. Trump's up more than that over Rubio in 2 of those 3:

NH: Trump 32.8, Rubio 11.8, Cruz 11.3 (4 polls 1/27-2/3).
SC: Trump 36, Cruz 19.7, Rubio 12.7 (4 polls 1/15-1/23)
FL: Trump 41, Cruz 19, Rubio 13.7 (3 polls 1/15-1/21)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -3350.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I imagine Cruz & Rubio have closed the gap some in those 3, esp SC & FL which are 2-3 weeks old)..Regardless, this thing isn't going to be decided until at least Super Tues, and maybe even mid March..

Cruz is absolutely unelectable and Trump is a better wing-nut candidate. I think it will come down to Trump and Rubio.

There you go again, still stuck on the fallacy that Cruz can't beat Hillary..
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -4034.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BDKJMU wrote:

kalm wrote:
Cruz is absolutely unelectable and Trump is a better wing-nut candidate. I think it will come down to Trump and Rubio.

There you go again, still stuck on the fallacy that Cruz can't beat Hillary..
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -4034.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He's a smarmy, non-telegenic, coont so they'd be on a level playing field except he doesn't have a vagina (I think).

Nobody really likes him, regardless of what the polls say. Trust me on this.