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Fox News "CIA Expert" arrested for lying about CIA ties

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:22 pm
by dbackjon
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Wayne Simmons, a recurring guest on Fox News who claimed to have 27 years of experience with the CIA, was arrested Thursday after being indicted by a federal grand jury on charges that he lied about his service.

Simmons is accused of falsely claiming that he worked as an "outside paramilitary special operations officer" for the CIA from 1973 to 2000. On Fox, this was often shortened to "former CIA operative."



He was also indicted for using that false claim to gain government security clearances and an assignment as a defense contractor, where he advised senior military personnel overseas.

Re: Fox News "CIA Expert" arrested for lying about CIA ties

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:58 pm
by CAA Flagship
dbackjon wrote:http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/15/media/w ... index.html

Wayne Simmons, a recurring guest on Fox News who claimed to have 27 years of experience with the CIA, was arrested Thursday after being indicted by a federal grand jury on charges that he lied about his service.

Simmons is accused of falsely claiming that he worked as an "outside paramilitary special operations officer" for the CIA from 1973 to 2000. On Fox, this was often shortened to "former CIA operative."



He was also indicted for using that false claim to gain government security clearances and an assignment as a defense contractor, where he advised senior military personnel overseas.
Interestng. So telling lies is a no-no? Who came up with that one?

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Re: Fox News "CIA Expert" arrested for lying about CIA ties

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:01 pm
by CitadelGrad
dbackjon wrote:http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/15/media/w ... index.html

Wayne Simmons, a recurring guest on Fox News who claimed to have 27 years of experience with the CIA, was arrested Thursday after being indicted by a federal grand jury on charges that he lied about his service.

Simmons is accused of falsely claiming that he worked as an "outside paramilitary special operations officer" for the CIA from 1973 to 2000. On Fox, this was often shortened to "former CIA operative."



He was also indicted for using that false claim to gain government security clearances and an assignment as a defense contractor, where he advised senior military personnel overseas.
Something is fishy here. I had a TS-SBI and I was investigated thoroughly several times. The government doesn't just hand out security clearances based on some guy's word that he had 27 years of experience with the CIA.

Re: Fox News "CIA Expert" arrested for lying about CIA ties

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:34 pm
by GrizFanStuckInUtah
I don't see how this is much different than the courts overturning the stolen valor act. People can claim whatever the hell they want and no one can stop them.

Re: Fox News "CIA Expert" arrested for lying about CIA ties

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:43 pm
by CID1990
CitadelGrad wrote:
dbackjon wrote:http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/15/media/w ... index.html

Wayne Simmons, a recurring guest on Fox News who claimed to have 27 years of experience with the CIA, was arrested Thursday after being indicted by a federal grand jury on charges that he lied about his service.

Simmons is accused of falsely claiming that he worked as an "outside paramilitary special operations officer" for the CIA from 1973 to 2000. On Fox, this was often shortened to "former CIA operative."



He was also indicted for using that false claim to gain government security clearances and an assignment as a defense contractor, where he advised senior military personnel overseas.
Something is fishy here. I had a TS-SBI and I was investigated thoroughly several times. The government doesn't just hand out security clearances based on some guy's word that he had 27 years of experience with the CIA.
i saw that part too

Re: Fox News "CIA Expert" arrested for lying about CIA ties

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:36 am
by Skjellyfetti
CitadelGrad wrote:
dbackjon wrote:http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/15/media/w ... index.html

Wayne Simmons, a recurring guest on Fox News who claimed to have 27 years of experience with the CIA, was arrested Thursday after being indicted by a federal grand jury on charges that he lied about his service.

Simmons is accused of falsely claiming that he worked as an "outside paramilitary special operations officer" for the CIA from 1973 to 2000. On Fox, this was often shortened to "former CIA operative."



He was also indicted for using that false claim to gain government security clearances and an assignment as a defense contractor, where he advised senior military personnel overseas.

Something is fishy here. I had a TS-SBI and I was investigated thoroughly several times. The government doesn't just hand out security clearances based on some guy's word that he had 27 years of experience with the CIA.
Seems odd for sure.

Read the press release to see if it explained... and, it just made it even more odd. :? Someone really shit the bed vetting this guy.
According to the indictment, Simmons falsely claimed he worked as an “Outside Paramilitary Special Operations Officer” for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) from 1973 to 2000, and used that false claim in an attempt to obtain government security clearances and work as a defense contractor, including at one point successfully getting deployed overseas as an intelligence advisor to senior military personnel. According to the indictment, Simmons also falsely claimed on national security forms that his prior arrests and criminal convictions were directly related to his supposed intelligence work for the CIA, and that he had previously held a top secret security clearance. The indictment also alleges that Simmons defrauded an individual victim out of approximately $125,000 in connection with a bogus real estate investment.

Re: Fox News "CIA Expert" arrested for lying about CIA ties

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:58 am
by CID1990
Maybe he's just SO good even he doesn't know he's CIA

Re: Fox News "CIA Expert" arrested for lying about CIA ties

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:27 am
by Ibanez
CitadelGrad wrote:
dbackjon wrote:http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/15/media/w ... index.html

Wayne Simmons, a recurring guest on Fox News who claimed to have 27 years of experience with the CIA, was arrested Thursday after being indicted by a federal grand jury on charges that he lied about his service.

Simmons is accused of falsely claiming that he worked as an "outside paramilitary special operations officer" for the CIA from 1973 to 2000. On Fox, this was often shortened to "former CIA operative."



He was also indicted for using that false claim to gain government security clearances and an assignment as a defense contractor, where he advised senior military personnel overseas.
Something is fishy here. I had a TS-SBI and I was investigated thoroughly several times. The government doesn't just hand out security clearances based on some guy's word that he had 27 years of experience with the CIA.
Sure they do. :lol: Just like one person with TS-SCI has access to so much data that nobody thinks about looking for accomplices in a data breach. *cough* Snowden didn't act alone *cough*.

Spoiler: show
:sarcasm:

Re: Fox News

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:30 am
by Ibanez
CID1990 wrote:Maybe he's just SO good even he doesn't know he's CIA
Whoa! That's deep.

Maybe he'll be taken to a location near The Farm. The Pasture? :geek:

Re: Fox News

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:59 pm
by ASUG8
CID1990 wrote:Maybe he's just SO good even he doesn't know he's CIA
Manchurian Candidate.

Re: Fox News "CIA Expert" arrested for lying about CIA ties

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:28 pm
by AZGrizFan
Well, at least when Obama becomes MSNBC's "Terrorism Expert" he won't have to lie about his associations with known terrorists.

Re: Fox News "CIA Expert" arrested for lying about CIA ties

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:33 pm
by dbackjon
AZGrizFan wrote:Well, at least when Obama becomes MSNBC's "Terrorism Expert" he won't have to lie about his associations with known terrorists.

I don't think Obama likes to broadcast any inadvertent association with Cheney or other GOP Terrorists :nod:

Re: Fox News "CIA Expert" arrested for lying about CIA ties

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:45 pm
by Ibanez
dbackjon wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Well, at least when Obama becomes MSNBC's "Terrorism Expert" he won't have to lie about his associations with known terrorists.

I don't think Obama likes to broadcast any inadvertent association with Cheney or other GOP Terrorists :nod:
Bill Ayers is with the GOP? Who knew!! :shock:

Re: Fox News "CIA Expert" arrested for lying about CIA ties

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:09 pm
by AZGrizFan
Ibanez wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

I don't think Obama likes to broadcast any inadvertent association with Cheney or other GOP Terrorists :nod:
Bill Ayers is with the GOP? Who knew!! :shock:
Yeah. :roll:

Nice swing and miss, Jon. :coffee: