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Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:12 am
by Ibanez
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The Army this week selected the company to build its much-anticipated new vehicle to replace the Humvee -- a multibillion dollar contract.

Oshkosh Corporation, located in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, won the $6.7 billion contract to produce the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle, which will also be used by the Marine Corps.

The initial order will be for 17,000 vehicles, with production set to begin next year. The Army expects to have its first JLTV unit ready to go in fiscal year 2018, according to a release from the Army.
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I've seen the GD versions and used to work on OshKosh's M-ATV back in 2010 (this was p/t grunt work. ripping out their cables and installing better ones.) OshKosh is a smart move. Good company, solid product and from my experience way easier to work with than anything from GD. I worked logistics on a GD project and they lacked common sense and waste money, time and resources.

Actually, I think there are 6 of these out back. When I get to work, i'll check.

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:34 am
by Grizalltheway
Hope them hajis are ready for a taste of a whole new kind of freedom! :bananahump:

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:56 am
by CAA Flagship
B'gosh

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:15 am
by 89Hen
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Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:24 am
by SuperHornet
I hope it's more reliable than the HMMWV is. And I wonder if the Marines have signed off on this yet....

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:25 am
by dbackjon
At what, $500K per?

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:27 am
by dbackjon
SuperHornet wrote:I hope it's more reliable than the HMMWV is. And I wonder if the Marines have signed off on this yet....
Reading is fundamental. Not fundamentalist

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:38 am
by SuperHornet
dbackjon wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:I hope it's more reliable than the HMMWV is. And I wonder if the Marines have signed off on this yet....
Reading is fundamental. Not fundamentalist
The quoted portion identified it as the JOINT Light Tactical Vehicle, but only cited Army sources. Odd things HAVE happened before with supposedly "joint" projects when one service has the lead (ESPECIALLY when said lead service is the stupid Army)....

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:39 am
by GrizFanStuckInUtah
SuperHornet wrote:I hope it's more reliable than the HMMWV is. And I wonder if the Marines have signed off on this yet....

Yep :nod:
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Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:05 am
by ASUG8
How soon before the urban commando/soccer mom SUV version comes out for the civilian folk?

That's all we need, is some Asian female barreling down the interstate in a 5,500 lb bullet. :shock:

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:07 am
by GrizFanStuckInUtah
ASUG8 wrote:How soon before the urban commando/soccer mom SUV version comes out for the civilian folk?

That's all we need, is some Asian female barreling down the interstate in a 5,500 lb bullet. :shock:

You missed a 1, 15,500 lbs! :shock:

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:22 am
by ASUG8
GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:How soon before the urban commando/soccer mom SUV version comes out for the civilian folk?

That's all we need, is some Asian female barreling down the interstate in a 5,500 lb bullet. :shock:

You missed a 1, 15,500 lbs! :shock:
I'm guessing the civilian version won't be bomb resistant and will probably not be equipped with the gun and turret for most of the US. The central Missouri and Baltimore versions come equipped as pictured. :lol:

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:24 am
by Ibanez
Grizalltheway wrote:Hope them hajis are ready for a taste of a whole new kind of freedom! :bananahump:
The JLTV is bad ass. Although I didn't serve, I've spent a great deal of time in HMMWVs. These are good upgrade. The speed, agility, capabilities and COMFORT are a huge improvement. I hear it's about 70% faster, it can be lifted to hot zones, has an electronically raised/lowered suspension, insane weapons capabilites, and probably much more.

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:25 am
by Ibanez
SuperHornet wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Reading is fundamental. Not fundamentalist
The quoted portion identified it as the JOINT Light Tactical Vehicle, but only cited Army sources. Odd things HAVE happened before with supposedly "joint" projects when one service has the lead (ESPECIALLY when said lead service is the stupid Army)....
Read dude. This is for the Army and USMC.

It's going to blow the HMMWV out of the water.

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:26 am
by Ibanez
ASUG8 wrote:How soon before the urban commando/soccer mom SUV version comes out for the civilian folk?

That's all we need, is some Asian female barreling down the interstate in a 5,500 lb bullet. :shock:
:lol: The Hummer is a piece of crap vehicle.

Not unlike the HMMWV. :thumb:

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:28 am
by AZGrizFan
Ibanez wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/ ... index.html
The Army this week selected the company to build its much-anticipated new vehicle to replace the Humvee -- a multibillion dollar contract.

Oshkosh Corporation, located in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, won the $6.7 billion contract to produce the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle, which will also be used by the Marine Corps.

The initial order will be for 17,000 vehicles, with production set to begin next year. The Army expects to have its first JLTV unit ready to go in fiscal year 2018, according to a release from the Army.
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I've seen the GD versions and used to work on OshKosh's M-ATV back in 2010 (this was p/t grunt work. ripping out their cables and installing better ones.) OshKosh is a smart move. Good company, solid product and from my experience way easier to work with than anything from GD. I worked logistics on a GD project and they lacked common sense and waste money, time and resources.

Actually, I think there are 6 of these out back. When I get to work, i'll check.
I want one. :nod: :nod:

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:30 am
by 93henfan
The U.S. has a bad habit of preparing for the last war instead of the next one.

As long as we only fight sand niggers in cities, this will be a great vehicle.

If we fight a conventional force in a mud bog or in mountains, this thing might become a cute toy.

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:39 am
by Ibanez
93henfan wrote:The U.S. has a bad habit of preparing for the last war instead of the next one.

As long as we only fight sand niggers in cities, this will be a great vehicle.

If we fight a conventional force in a mud bog or in mountains, this thing might become a cute toy.
I think i've posted this before. I started on a project, when the war was still hot in Afghanistan, that was developing a prototype to replace the current CoC (i'm sure you're familiar with these?)
Spoiler: show
https://marinecorpsconceptsandprograms. ... center-coc
Anyway, instead of using the HMMWV and the M1101 or M1102 trailer, this company that will remain nameless used this, for the mountains of Afghanistan:
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A Ford F550. It had 2, batteries (which always drained) armored doors (on factory hinges so the doors weren't easy to open or close), No AC for the cabin, armored glass w/ gun ports and a 5th wheel attachment. 5TH WHEEL!? Are you kidding me? The company lost the project and the project was eventually cancelled due to misappropriations. The cars had no clear title (but belong to a dealership owned by a family member of John Murtha),and these fucking things couldn't go more than a few miles before overheating and breaking down.

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:39 am
by ASUG8
AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/ ... index.html



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I've seen the GD versions and used to work on OshKosh's M-ATV back in 2010 (this was p/t grunt work. ripping out their cables and installing better ones.) OshKosh is a smart move. Good company, solid product and from my experience way easier to work with than anything from GD. I worked logistics on a GD project and they lacked common sense and waste money, time and resources.

Actually, I think there are 6 of these out back. When I get to work, i'll check.
I want one. :nod: :nod:
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Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:28 am
by CAA Flagship
AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/ ... index.html



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I've seen the GD versions and used to work on OshKosh's M-ATV back in 2010 (this was p/t grunt work. ripping out their cables and installing better ones.) OshKosh is a smart move. Good company, solid product and from my experience way easier to work with than anything from GD. I worked logistics on a GD project and they lacked common sense and waste money, time and resources.

Actually, I think there are 6 of these out back. When I get to work, i'll check.
I want one. :nod: :nod:
After you buy one, drive it up here and we'll have a few BL's and roll through Ferguson, just for shits and giggles. :D

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:38 am
by YoUDeeMan
ASUG8 wrote:
GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:

You missed a 1, 15,500 lbs! :shock:
I'm guessing the civilian version won't be bomb resistant and will probably not be equipped with the gun and turret for most of the US. The central Missouri and Baltimore versions come equipped as pictured. :lol:
:lol: :notworthy:

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:43 am
by YoUDeeMan
Ibanez wrote:The company lost the project and the project was eventually cancelled due to misappropriations. The cars had no clear title (but belong to a dealership owned by a family member of John Murtha),and these fucking things couldn't go more than a few miles before overheating and breaking down.
So, who got shot, jailed, fined or bitch slapped as punishment for the misappropriations? :suspicious:

Or did we just let them go free because it was considered business as usual?

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:50 am
by Ibanez
Cluck U wrote:
Ibanez wrote:The company lost the project and the project was eventually cancelled due to misappropriations. The cars had no clear title (but belong to a dealership owned by a family member of John Murtha),and these fucking things couldn't go more than a few miles before overheating and breaking down.
So, who got shot, jailed, fined or bitch slapped as punishment for the misappropriations? :suspicious:

Or did we just let them go free because it was considered business as usual?
The contractor out of Illinois got fined, I heard the Captain was demoted, i'm sure some people on the project were fired and John Murtha died about a year later. His family's name and a slew of Ford dealerships in Pennsylvania were all over this mess.

You'd be happy to know (probably not) that all the gear was either reassigned to other projects (tables, chairs, comm equip, etc..), sold or given away (at little cost to the gov't.) i.e. we did the paperwork but the receiving organization paid for everything. It took me and a colleague about 6 months to get rid of the F550s. They are now part of various Hawai'i and Virginia National Guard units. :thumb:

The company I worked for at the time (EMA/SAIC) was given the project and told to salvage it. That's when my boss uncovered the misappropriations and abuse (Murtha). At that point it was a cancelled project and we were told to get rid of everything.


Including the sailboat in Newport News that was used for offshore comm testing. :lol:

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:15 pm
by AZGrizFan
ASUG8 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: Image



I want one. :nod: :nod:
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Alright dude. Makes your cracks. But when the bubble goes up and it's time for a bug-out vehicle, you're not invited when I drive off in this. :tothehand: :tothehand:

Re: Meet the HMMWV replacement

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:02 pm
by ASUG8
AZGrizFan wrote: Alright dude. Makes your cracks. But when the bubble goes up and it's time for a bug-out vehicle, you're not invited when I drive off in this. :tothehand: :tothehand:
If we get EMP'd we'll all be trying to get into that GTO without all the fancy modern day electronics. :nod: