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Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:05 am
by Ibanez
Is Papa Joe going to jump into the fray and run for the Democratic nomination?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... -fast.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A Biden v. Clinton primary battle could be—and if Biden manages to win a couple of primaries, most certainly would be—far more acrimonious than the Clinton-Barack Obama fight of 2008.
He has had some meetings with Obama campaigners. his entry would probably further erode any support that Clinton in.

If he does, and he were a smart man, he'd have Elizabeth Warren in his back pocket.


What do you guys think?

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:28 am
by bluehenbillk
Ibanez wrote:Is Papa Joe going to jump into the fray and run for the Democratic nomination?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... -fast.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A Biden v. Clinton primary battle could be—and if Biden manages to win a couple of primaries, most certainly would be—far more acrimonious than the Clinton-Barack Obama fight of 2008.
He has had some meetings with Obama campaigners. his entry would probably further erode any support that Clinton in.

If he does, and he were a smart man, he'd have Elizabeth Warren in his back pocket.


What do you guys think?
It sounds like he & Warren have discussed things - that'd be interesting. Hey, I'm not a Hillary fan AT ALL, so if Biden's entry into the race helps to kill her chances - I'm all for it.

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:52 am
by CID1990
some new evidence came out today that yet more of hillary's spin was just a bold faced lie- she actually penned an email with security information as well as troop movements

there's also an email from the diplomatic security guy (who they scapegoated and fired) talking about how security was a problem in Libya

the FBI already has more than enough to charge her - at some point The One's justice dept is going to have no choice but to seek a charge

then just wait for the leaks when the AG balks

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:01 pm
by Ibanez
CID1990 wrote:some new evidence came out today that yet more of hillary's spin was just a bold faced lie- she actually penned an email with security information as well as troop movements

there's also an email from the diplomatic security guy (who they scapegoated and fired) talking about how security was a problem in Libya

the FBI already has more than enough to charge her - at some point The One's justice dept is going to have no choice but to seek a charge

then just wait for the leaks when the AG balks
Link?

She should be charged, but we know she won't.

Unless a Republican wins in November.

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:18 pm
by 93henfan
bluehenbillk wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Is Papa Joe going to jump into the fray and run for the Democratic nomination?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... -fast.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



He has had some meetings with Obama campaigners. his entry would probably further erode any support that Clinton in.

If he does, and he were a smart man, he'd have Elizabeth Warren in his back pocket.


What do you guys think?
It sounds like he & Warren have discussed things - that'd be interesting. Hey, I'm not a Hillary fan AT ALL, so if Biden's entry into the race helps to kill her chances - I'm all for it.
All of this. :nod:

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:26 pm
by mrklean
RUN JOE RUN!!!!!

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:52 pm
by YoUDeeMan
Joe has ZERO chance.

WTF guys...he got, what...3% or 5% last time?

Dude is a bigger clown than Bush. it will be interesting if the national press has fun with how he bought his house.

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:56 pm
by 93henfan
Cluck U wrote:Joe has ZERO chance.
Yeah. So does Trump.

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:12 pm
by Ibanez
Cluck U wrote:Joe has ZERO chance.

WTF guys...he got, what...3% or 5% last time?

Dude is a bigger clown than Bush. it will be interesting if the national press has fun with how he bought his house.
He has that ABC quality.

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:58 pm
by kalm
Ibanez wrote:
CID1990 wrote:some new evidence came out today that yet more of hillary's spin was just a bold faced lie- she actually penned an email with security information as well as troop movements

there's also an email from the diplomatic security guy (who they scapegoated and fired) talking about how security was a problem in Libya

the FBI already has more than enough to charge her - at some point The One's justice dept is going to have no choice but to seek a charge

then just wait for the leaks when the AG balks
Link?

She should be charged, but we know she won't.

Unless a Republican wins in November.
I'd like to see the link as well.

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:19 pm
by YoUDeeMan
kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Link?

She should be charged, but we know she won't.

Unless a Republican wins in November.
I'd like to see the link as well.
Not sure this is it, but here's something:

"The Pentagon on Tuesday sidestepped questions about whether top-secret intelligence, including secrets derived from reconnaissance satellites and aircraft, was compromised after being placed on unsecure emails found on Hillary Clinton’s private server.

Pentagon Press Secretary Peter Cook, in an inaugural briefing for reporters, would not answer questions about the secret intelligence found by an inspector general in a sampling of emails once stored on Clinton’s unsecured server. The email system was used by the former secretary of state from 2009 to 2013.

So far, some 305 emails containing classified data have been found among some 60,000 emails once kept on the private server.

“I think this an issue best left to the State Department,” Cook said. “They’ve had to address this and also Secretary Clinton. It’s not something that I think makes sense for me to get into from right here at this podium.”

Cook also would not say if the Pentagon is conducting a damage assessment or investigating whether its secrets were compromised.

U.S. Intelligence Community Inspector General Charles McCullough disclosed in a notification to Congress Aug. 11 that samples of Clinton’s emails had revealed improperly stored intelligence information classified “Top Secret//SI//TK//Noforn” on the Clinton server.

Clinton initially denied placing any classified information on the email server, and later said she did not knowingly use data that was “marked” classified. Last week she stated, “I did not send classified material, and I did not receive any material that was marked or designated classified.”

An email sent to the Clinton presidential campaign seeking comment was not returned."


http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... on-emails/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:39 pm
by CID1990
kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Link?

She should be charged, but we know she won't.

Unless a Republican wins in November.
I'd like to see the link as well.
Oh you're thinking if it is really really true you might decide not to vote for her?

haw

Here's the examiner - its a partisan rag but the article goes into detail about whats in the recently examined emails - and its old news, really

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2570763" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Obama's DoJ could get painted into a corner on this depending on how things go- but no i dont think if it comes down to a simple decision by Obama that he would have her charged. Its a refkection on him and a tacit admission to one if his many major failures.

wonder if he'll pardon Petraeus

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:00 am
by Ivytalk
Old cheap-ass (Joe Bank suit sales, bargain house courtesy of MBNA) gaffemeister Biden won't be able to resist running. His own ambition and his son's ghost will push him in. And he has a shot, given Hildabeast's problems.I predict a Biden-Warren ticket.

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:18 am
by kalm
Ivytalk wrote:Old cheap-ass (Joe Bank suit sales, bargain house courtesy of MBNA) gaffemeister Biden won't be able to resist running. His own ambition and his son's ghost will push him in. And he has a shot, given Hildabeast's problems.I predict a Biden-Warren ticket.
Do you own any cargo shorts?

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:53 am
by kalm
CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
I'd like to see the link as well.
Oh you're thinking if it is really really true you might decide not to vote for her?

haw

Here's the examiner - its a partisan rag but the article goes into detail about whats in the recently examined emails - and its old news, really

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2570763" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Obama's DoJ could get painted into a corner on this depending on how things go- but no i dont think if it comes down to a simple decision by Obama that he would have her charged. Its a refkection on him and a tacit admission to one if his many major failures.

wonder if he'll pardon Petraeus
Where's the part about troop movements? Perhaps that was in a Hot Air, Breitbart, Worldnet Daily, or Newsmax piece you read?

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:33 am
by CID1990
kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Oh you're thinking if it is really really true you might decide not to vote for her?

haw

Here's the examiner - its a partisan rag but the article goes into detail about whats in the recently examined emails - and its old news, really

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2570763" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Obama's DoJ could get painted into a corner on this depending on how things go- but no i dont think if it comes down to a simple decision by Obama that he would have her charged. Its a refkection on him and a tacit admission to one if his many major failures.

wonder if he'll pardon Petraeus
Where's the part about troop movements? Perhaps that was in a Hot Air, Breitbart, Worldnet Daily, or Newsmax piece you read?
The troop movements part came out weeks ago - part of the SCI email that included satellite imagery. It isn't referenced in this specific article.

The content of Hillary's emails isn't opinion, kalm - and even if hillary ate babies for breakfast you wouldn't be reading about it in Rolling Stone or other outlets you likely consider reputable.

She did something that would have me already in jail, period. That's already established by the server and the SCI content in her emails alone. Or do you dispute the Examiner's information? Hillary didn't have classified info out in the open with an unauthorized private server?

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:38 am
by ASUG8
CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
I'd like to see the link as well.
Oh you're thinking if it is really really true you might decide not to vote for her?

haw

Here's the examiner - its a partisan rag but the article goes into detail about whats in the recently examined emails - and its old news, really

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2570763" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Obama's DoJ could get painted into a corner on this depending on how things go- but no i dont think if it comes down to a simple decision by Obama that he would have her charged. Its a refkection on him and a tacit admission to one if his many major failures.

wonder if he'll pardon Petraeus
The DOJ has painted themselves into several corners already with virtually no fallout, so I'm dubious that anything will happen if they overlook investigating Clinton.

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:49 am
by kalm
CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Where's the part about troop movements? Perhaps that was in a Hot Air, Breitbart, Worldnet Daily, or Newsmax piece you read?
The troop movements part came out weeks ago - part of the SCI email that included satellite imagery. It isn't referenced in this specific article.

The content of Hillary's emails isn't opinion, kalm - and even if hillary ate babies for breakfast you wouldn't be reading about it in Rolling Stone or other outlets you likely consider reputable.

She did something that would have me already in jail, period. That's already established by the server and the SCI content in her emails alone. Or do you dispute the Examiner's information? Hillary didn't have classified info out in the open with an unauthorized private server?
Sorry...this was the part of your post that got me thinking it was new (and probably Ibanez too). So I googled it and CBS did report a week ago about one of the emails containing info on Libyan troop strength and movements.
some new evidence came out today that yet more of hillary's spin was just a bold faced lie- she actually penned an email with security information as well as troop movements.
I'm thinking..."Breaking news! The traitor's giving away our troop locations!!!"

Accurately portray the timeline and facts next time and we won't have to go through these tedious exercises. :thumb:

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:12 am
by Ivytalk
kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Old cheap-ass (Joe Bank suit sales, bargain house courtesy of MBNA) gaffemeister Biden won't be able to resist running. His own ambition and his son's ghost will push him in. And he has a shot, given Hildabeast's problems.I predict a Biden-Warren ticket.
Do you own any cargo shorts?
Hell, no. And thank you for asking. :twisted:

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:26 am
by kalm
Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
Do you own any cargo shorts?
Hell, no. And thank you for asking. :twisted:
:mrgreen:

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:31 am
by LeadBolt
Does this Presidential cycle need more comedic relief?

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:57 am
by TheDancinMonarch
Just when you thought the herd would start to thin, Joe will jump in to plug the gap.

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:30 am
by ASUG8
TheDancinMonarch wrote:Just when you thought the herd would start to thin, Joe will jump in to plug the gap.
There isn't a lot of room left on the left, with Sanders and Hillary's ego+baggage. :coffee:

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:36 am
by Ivytalk
And you just know Algore wants another shot! :nod:

Re: Joe Biden: Will He or Won't

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:03 am
by TheDancinMonarch
ASUG8 wrote:
TheDancinMonarch wrote:Just when you thought the herd would start to thin, Joe will jump in to plug the gap.
There isn't a lot of room left on the left, with Sanders and Hillary's ego+baggage. :coffee:
This was a hair joke, or lack of same. But I guess if you have to explain 'em they aren't very funny.