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The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:49 am
by kalm
There is a dubious new addition to the Forbes 2015 America’s Richest Families list. The Sackler family, which owns 100 percent of Purdue Pharma, amassed the 16th largest family fortune in the U.S., estimated to be worth $14 billion dollars.
What makes this distinction dubious is the fact that the Sackler’s built their fortune by peddling the highly addictive, and often deadly, opiate painkiller OxyContin as a supposedly non-addictive version of oxycodone, labeling it as “abuse resistant.”
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And if you find the source obscure, here's an earlier article from Fortune:
The celebrity in rehab and the addict holding up pharmacies have both become such clichés that it’s easy to view painkiller calamities as things that happen only to criminals and celebrities. But the numbers are broad and disturbing: Some 15,000 Americans died of opioid overdoses in 2008 — triple the number for 1999, according to the new CDC findings. That’s more than from heroin and cocaine combined. As Dr. Irfan Dhalla, a physician and drug-safety researcher, puts it, “That’s four 9/11s a year.”
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Those who continue to support the war on drugs are complete and utter boobs.

Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:18 am
by AZGrizFan
Quick! Somebody got rich! Let's rip them to shreds and denigrate their success!
Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:23 am
by OL FU
I know little about Oxycontin, but if it is that horrible aren't the biggest offenders the people that continue to prescribe it.
But I agree the war on drugs has been lost and the white flag should be raised.
Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:39 am
by Grizalltheway
AZGrizFan wrote:Quick! Somebody got rich! Let's rip them to shreds and denigrate their success!
Whoosh!
Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:40 am
by kalm
Grizalltheway wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:Quick! Somebody got rich! Let's rip them to shreds and denigrate their success!
Whoosh!

Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:48 am
by Gil Dobie
Legalizing cocaine would get somebody rich. Many people get rich from booze, how many deaths are booze related.
Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:56 am
by andy7171
Gil Dobie wrote:Legalizing cocaine would get somebody rich. Many people get rich from booze, how many deaths are booze related.
This.
Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:02 am
by AZGrizFan
kalm wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:
Whoosh!

Reread the meme and tell me I'm wrong, jackass(es).

Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:03 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:Those who continue to support the war on drugs are complete and utter boobs.

kalm, I'm not sure I follow your line of thinking. Legalizing cocaine and heroin will reduce the number of deaths caused by Oxycontin?
Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:06 am
by Chizzang
AZGrizFan wrote:Quick! Somebody got rich! Let's rip them to shreds and denigrate their success!

Are you seriously thinking that ^ right there...
Indeed the "whooshing" sound as that one flew over your head
Oxi is synthetic Heroin - for all intents and purposes IT IS HEROIN
Heroin that can be shaped into pills and slid across a counter
And we've got guys like YOU and HEN you know the self proclaimed "makers" and smartest men in the room
Helping us understand why our archaic draconian drug laws make perfect sense

I look forward to your insights on this matter
Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:16 am
by 89Hen
Chizzang wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:Quick! Somebody got rich! Let's rip them to shreds and denigrate their success!

Are you seriously thinking that ^ right there...
Indeed the "whooshing" sound as that one flew over your head
Oxi is synthetic Heroin - for all intents and purposes IT IS HEROIN
Heroin that can be shaped into pills and slid across a counter
And we've got guys like YOU and HEN you know the self proclaimed "makers" and smartest men in the room
Helping us understand why our archaic draconian drug laws make perfect sense

I look forward to your insights on this matter
I don't have any insights if your line of thinking is that legalizing cocaine and heroin will lower the number of deaths, ruined lives, etc...
Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:20 am
by Grizalltheway
AZGrizFan wrote:kalm wrote:

Reread the meme and tell me I'm wrong, jackass(es).

Okay, how about "this family, who bootstrapped their way using hard work, ingenuity and intelligence, have made a very nice living for themselves selling synthetic heroin".
Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:28 am
by Chizzang
89Hen wrote:Chizzang wrote:

Are you seriously thinking that ^ right there...
Indeed the "whooshing" sound as that one flew over your head
Oxi is synthetic Heroin - for all intents and purposes IT IS HEROIN
Heroin that can be shaped into pills and slid across a counter
And we've got guys like YOU and HEN you know the self proclaimed "makers" and smartest men in the room
Helping us understand why our archaic draconian drug laws make perfect sense

I look forward to your insights on this matter
I don't have any insights if your line of thinking is that legalizing cocaine and heroin will lower the number of deaths, ruined lives, etc...
Well for starters:
HEROIN is legal - it's called Oxi - and all you need to be is fat with back pain to get it
so 1/3 of America qualifies right out of the gate

Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:29 am
by Pwns
The bigger issue here is how slowly the medical community changes their practice with new research and findings from the scientific community. Example: There's no evidence that mammograms improve cancer mortality, yet many practices still persist with it. It's not the drug companies that choose which prescription patients will get. I would bet you most doctors have even glanced at literature on the rates of side effects from various analgesics and pain-killers.
Of course these people are obviously very much opposed to marijuana legalization, but luckily they don't have to invest too much to fight that with police unions and private prison operators helping them out.
Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:44 am
by 89Hen
Chizzang wrote:Well for starters:
HEROIN is legal - it's called Oxi - and all you need to be is fat with back pain to get it
so 1/3 of America qualifies right out of the gate

So talk about the hypocrisy of the drug war, but don't imply it's a worthless cause. At least that's my take.
Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:33 am
by Chizzang
89Hen wrote:Chizzang wrote:Well for starters:
HEROIN is legal - it's called Oxi - and all you need to be is fat with back pain to get it
so 1/3 of America qualifies right out of the gate

So talk about the hypocrisy of the drug war, but don't imply it's a worthless cause. At least that's my take.
Some states in the Union are waging a larger drug war than others...
To a large degree we choose our wars

Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:55 am
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:Quick! Somebody got rich! Let's rip them to shreds and denigrate their success!

Are you seriously thinking that ^ right there...
Indeed the "whooshing" sound as that one flew over your head
Oxi is synthetic Heroin - for all intents and purposes IT IS HEROIN
Heroin that can be shaped into pills and slid across a counter
And we've got guys like YOU and HEN you know the self proclaimed "makers" and smartest men in the room
Helping us understand why our archaic draconian drug laws make perfect sense

I look forward to your insights on this matter
You have no clue what my position is on our current drug laws.
And I don't have to "self-proclaim" anything....

Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:56 am
by AZGrizFan
Grizalltheway wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Reread the meme and tell me I'm wrong, jackass(es).

Okay, how about "this family, who bootstrapped their way using hard work, ingenuity and intelligence, have made a very nice living for themselves selling synthetic heroin".
Well, it's approved by the FDA which is part of your precious fucking government that you want ruling everything and everybody, so I would think you'd be a huge supporter.
Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:03 pm
by Chizzang
Somebody musta hit a soft spot...

Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:24 pm
by CAA Flagship
Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:30 pm
by kalm
You mean the bought and paid for by pharma government that approves a drug first then waits to see if it's harmful?
Conk government at its finest. Welcome to America!
Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:34 pm
by CAA Flagship
kalm wrote:
You mean the bought and paid for by pharma government that approves a drug first then waits to see if it's harmful?
Conk government at its finest. Welcome to America!
Seriously? Have you seen how fast drugs get approved in other countries?
Oh, and Fauci is as crooked as they come.

Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:57 pm
by kalm
CAA Flagship wrote:kalm wrote:
You mean the bought and paid for by pharma government that approves a drug first then waits to see if it's harmful?
Conk government at its finest. Welcome to America!
Seriously? Have you seen how fast drugs get approved in other countries?
Oh, and Fauci is as crooked as they come.

No I haven't and duh...he sounds Italian.
Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:06 pm
by AZGrizFan
kalm wrote:
You mean the bought and paid for by pharma government that approves a drug first then waits to see if it's harmful?
Conk government at its finest. Welcome to America!
You mean the bought and paid for government that had to pass the healthcare bill before they could read it? Donk government at it's finest. Welcome to America.
Re: The Most Deadly Drug Cartel in America
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:33 pm
by kalm
AZGrizFan wrote:kalm wrote:
You mean the bought and paid for by pharma government that approves a drug first then waits to see if it's harmful?
Conk government at its finest. Welcome to America!
You mean the bought and paid for government that had to pass the healthcare bill before they could read it? Donk government at it's finest. Welcome to America.
I was no fan, but why do you think that was? Because Big insurance and Pharma are all donks?
