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Conundrum
Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free.
"A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again."
The definition of the word Conundrum is: something that is puzzling or confusing.
Here are six Conundrums of socialism in the
United States of America :
1. America is capitalist and greedy -
yet half of the population is subsidized.
2. Half of the population is subsidized -
yet they think they are victims.
3. They think they are victims - yet their
representatives run the government.
4. Their representatives run the government -
yet the poor keep getting poorer.
5. The poor keep getting poorer - yet they
have things that people in other countries
only dream about.
6. They have things that people in other
countries only dream about - yet they want
America to be more like those other countries.
Think about it! And that, my friends, pretty
much sums up the USA in the 21st Century.
Makes you wonder who is doing the math.
These three, short sentences tell you a lot
about the direction of our current government
and cultural environment :
1. We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims
by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are
encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the
actions of a few lunatics.
Funny how that works.
And here's another one worth considering...
2. Seems we constantly hear about how Social
Security is going to run out of money. But we
never hear about welfare or food stamps running
out of money? What's interesting is the first
group "worked for" their money, but the second
didn't.
Think about it.....and Last but not least :
3. Why are we cutting benefits for our veterans,
no pay raises for our military and cutting our army
but we are not stopping the payments or benefits
to illegal aliens.
Am I the only one missing something?

So much Fail...

JohnStOnge wrote:

So much Fail...

The title statement sure isn't. "Free people are not equal; Equal people are not free."

Absolutely true. The essence of why the radical egalitarianism that drives progressivism is inconsistent with the thirst for liberty.

Sure...in a black and white philosophy for dummies sort of way.

LeadBolt wrote:From a FB post a friend of mine put up. I'm not sure of the origin. Discuss.

Conundrum
Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free.
"A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again."
The definition of the word Conundrum is: something that is puzzling or confusing.
Here are six Conundrums of socialism in the
United States of America :
1. America is capitalist and greedy -
yet half of the population is subsidized.

1) America isn't a country. 2) The U.S. is a mixed economy.

2. Half of the population is subsidized -
yet they think they are victims.

Somewhat true, but have you heard all of the whining from white heterosexual males lately? They are a persecuted lot for sure!

3. They think they are victims - yet their
representatives run the government.

They are not the constituency of elected officials.

4. Their representatives run the government -
yet the poor keep getting poorer.

The poor are doing alright. The middle class is getting poorer.

5. The poor keep getting poorer - yet they
have things that people in other countries
only dream about.

True dat.

6. They have things that people in other
countries only dream about - yet they want
America to be more like those other countries.

Educated liberal intellectuals (yeah those evil bastards) are swedephiles. American poor are more likely to locate Bristol, Talladega, or Martinsville on a map than Stockholm.

Think about it! And that, my friends, pretty
much sums up the USA in the 21st Century.
Makes you wonder who is doing the math.

The same people who think America is a country?

These three, short sentences tell you a lot
about the direction of our current government
and cultural environment :
1. We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims
by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are
encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the
actions of a few lunatics.
Funny how that works.

Ok. But what about muslim gun owners?

And here's another one worth considering...
2. Seems we constantly hear about how Social
Security is going to run out of money. But we
never hear about welfare or food stamps running
out of money? What's interesting is the first
group "worked for" their money, but the second
didn't.
Think about it.....and Last but not least :
3. Why are we cutting benefits for our veterans,
no pay raises for our military and cutting our army
but we are not stopping the payments or benefits
to illegal aliens.

Probably because Social Security is running out of money. Perhaps we should have the illegals fight our wars. Problem solver!

Am I the only one missing something?

JohnStOnge wrote:

Sure...in a black and white philosophy for dummies sort of way.

Well then, give me your argument with respect to how you can have free people and equal people at the same time. I'm talking about equality in the sense that progressives/liberals conceive it.

Free and equal are relative terms.

JohnStOnge wrote:

Free and equal are relative terms.

No they aren't. You know better than that.

kalm wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
No they aren't. You know better than that.

You admitted yourself in the other thread that you're not free to cut someone else's heart out.

How on EARTH does that relate to "free" and "equal" being relative terms?

On the issue of cutting someone else's heart out:

Cutting someone else's heart out is a positive attack on someone else.

kalm wrote:

How on EARTH does that relate to "free" and "equal" being relative terms?

On the issue of cutting someone else's heart out:

Cutting someone else's heart out is a positive attack on someone else.

Well I'm sorry then. You're just not free.

CID1990 wrote:I read the quoted part thinking it was from some article, and thought, "that looks like some goofy Facebook clickbait"

Then I went back to the top and discovered that it was some goofy Facebook clickbait

I have lots of FB friends who post that stuff and I literally scroll through it as fast as I can... if those friends didn't gave hit wives or girlfriends I would have just unfriended them by now

Chizzang wrote:
And nobody illegally hires more illegals than our giant billion dollar companies
Illegals are rolled right into the system - by American corporations - not crazy socialist liberals

CAA Flagship wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
And nobody illegally hires more illegals than our giant billion dollar companies
Illegals are rolled right into the system - by American corporations - not crazy socialist liberals

Because of non-competitive corporate taxes, it's either that or employ them in their home country.

we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.

kalm wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
The title statement sure isn't. "Free people are not equal; Equal people are not free."

Absolutely true. The essence of why the radical egalitarianism that drives progressivism is inconsistent with the thirst for liberty.

Sure...in a black and white philosophy for dummies sort of way.

Spoiler: show

CID1990 wrote:I read the quoted part thinking it was from some article, and thought, "that looks like some goofy Facebook clickbait"

Then I went back to the top and discovered that it was some goofy Facebook clickbait

I have lots of FB friends who post that stuff and I literally scroll through it as fast as I can... if those friends didn't gave hit wives or girlfriends I would have just unfriended them by now

CID1990 wrote:I read the quoted part thinking it was from some article, and thought, "that looks like some goofy Facebook clickbait"

Then I went back to the top and discovered that it was some goofy Facebook clickbait

I have lots of FB friends who post that stuff and I literally scroll through it as fast as I can... if those friends didn't gave hit wives or girlfriends I would have just unfriended them by now

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal

kalm wrote:

How on EARTH does that relate to "free" and "equal" being relative terms?

On the issue of cutting someone else's heart out:

Cutting someone else's heart out is a positive attack on someone else.

Well I'm sorry then. You're just not free.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal