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The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Flag

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:25 am
by dbackjon
MEA CULPA



The ‘Southern Avenger’ Repents: I Was Wrong About the Confederate Flag

States’ rights? Heritage? I was wrong: The Confederate flag has always been about race.

As a Charleston, South Carolina-based conservative radio personality known as the “Southern Avenger,” I spent a decade defending the Confederate flag that is yet again the center of so much controversy.

I said the flag was about states’ rights. I said it stood for self-determination. I said it honored heritage.

I argued the Confederate flag wasn’t about race. I believed it. Millions of well-meaning Southerners believe it too.

I was wrong. That flag is always about race. Whatever political or historical points the flag’s defenders make, there will never be a time—and never has been a time—in which millions of Americans have looked at that symbol and not seen hatred.


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Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:26 am
by dbackjon
Great read - the whole article is worth reading.

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:39 am
by Ibanez
dbackjon wrote:Great read - the whole article is worth reading.
Jack is an interesting person. I think he severed his ties with Rand Paul, but those two used to be thick as thieves.

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:10 am
by CID1990
Ibanez wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Great read - the whole article is worth reading.
Jack is an interesting person. I think he severed his ties with Rand Paul, but those two used to be thick as thieves.
I knew him tangentially back when he had his spot on 96WAVE (best radio station ever)

He was actually on Paul's staff but they had to let him go when some oppo research turned up some of his writings and called him out as a neo-Confederate. Not sure what his exact staffer role was

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:22 am
by Grizalltheway
BDKKK? Unravelinman? Bueller?

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:14 am
by Ibanez
CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Jack is an interesting person. I think he severed his ties with Rand Paul, but those two used to be thick as thieves.
I knew him tangentially back when he had his spot on 96WAVE (best radio station ever)

He was actually on Paul's staff but they had to let him go when some oppo research turned up some of his writings and called him out as a neo-Confederate. Not sure what his exact staffer role was
96WAVE was the best radio station ever, agreed. Fucking Rossi and his corporate sell-out minions ruined it.

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:17 am
by CID1990
Ibanez wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
I knew him tangentially back when he had his spot on 96WAVE (best radio station ever)

He was actually on Paul's staff but they had to let him go when some oppo research turned up some of his writings and called him out as a neo-Confederate. Not sure what his exact staffer role was
96WAVE was the best radio station ever, agreed. **** Rossi and his corporate sell-out minions ruined it.
I still tell people about it. Their programming was top notch, the DJs were all great, the local band airplay (we actually did a live acoustic in the studio for Locals Only) everything about it was awesome. 96 WaveFest also became pretty epic

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:26 am
by Ibanez
CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote: 96WAVE was the best radio station ever, agreed. **** Rossi and his corporate sell-out minions ruined it.
I still tell people about it. Their programming was top notch, the DJs were all great, the local band airplay (we actually did a live acoustic in the studio for Locals Only) everything about it was awesome. 96 WaveFest also became pretty epic
I grew up going to Wavefest. I remember skipping out on an SAT review class to go to WaveFest in 2000 (1999?) They had the best programming. When they moved it to The Joe, my parents house was across the river from it and I used to go up on the roof and listen to the bands. I think the last year was 2004, right?


I wondered what happened to Stupid Mike.

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:09 pm
by 89Hen
Driving through NC, VA and MD this weekend... I've never seen so many Confederate flags flying. :nod:

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:15 pm
by Ibanez
89Hen wrote:Driving through NC, VA and MD this weekend... I've never seen so many Confederate flags flying. :nod:
did you get any Mother Earth?

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:17 pm
by 89Hen
Ibanez wrote:
89Hen wrote:Driving through NC, VA and MD this weekend... I've never seen so many Confederate flags flying. :nod:
did you get any Mother Earth?
Never did see it. :thumbdown:

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:25 pm
by Ibanez
89Hen wrote:
Ibanez wrote:did you get any Mother Earth?
Never did see it. :thumbdown:
Bummer. Hope you made it home without any shark bites.

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:52 pm
by AZGrizFan
Ibanez wrote:
89Hen wrote:Driving through NC, VA and MD this weekend... I've never seen so many Confederate flags flying. :nod:
did you get any Mother Earth?
Good for them. :thumb: Good to see some people still have balls.

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:43 pm
by D1B
AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:did you get any Mother Earth?
Good for them. :thumb: Good to see some people still have balls.
Any one flying that shit wiper with receive a whip kick to the neck courtesy of D1B.

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:57 pm
by CID1990
D1B wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: Good for them. :thumb: Good to see some people still have balls.
Any one flying that **** wiper with receive a whip kick to the neck courtesy of D1B.
That should only be intimidating to people whose necks are at about 2.5 feet off the ground

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:16 am
by Baldy
CID1990 wrote:
D1B wrote:
Any one flying that **** wiper with receive a whip kick to the neck courtesy of D1B.
That should only be intimidating to people whose necks are at about 2.5 feet off the ground
Tyrion Lannister is shaking in his boots.

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:39 am
by Skjellyfetti
89Hen wrote:Driving through NC, VA and MD this weekend... I've never seen so many Confederate flags flying. :nod:
Spent the 4th in Bloomington, IN and saw a lot of Confederate flags as well.

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:08 pm
by ∞∞∞
Saw this truck on my commute. I think he's a liberal:

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I particularly like the "PROCSA" tag with the specialty General Lee plates.

Bumper stickers include:

"Heritage, Not Hate"
"I Support the Battleflag"
"Museum of the Confederacy"
"I Don't Care How You Did It Up North"
"Alan Jackson: Country Music the Way God Intended It"

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:45 pm
by 89Hen
∞∞∞ wrote:"I Don't Care How You Did It Up North"
Then you should have won the war. :twisted:

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:49 pm
by CAA Flagship
∞∞∞ wrote:Saw this truck on my commute. I think he's a liberal:

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Image

I particularly like the "PROCSA" tag with the specialty General Lee plates.

Bumper stickers include:

"Heritage, Not Hate"
"I Support the Battleflag"
"Museum of the Confederacy"
"I Don't Care How You Did It Up North"
"Alan Jackson: Country Music the Way God Intended It"
Oooh. Oooh. Pizza Hut on the right. Pull over.

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:16 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
D1B wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: Good for them. :thumb: Good to see some people still have balls.
Any one flying that shit wiper with receive a whip kick to the neck courtesy of D1B.
2 anti gunners tremble with fear and most of the metrosexuals out east

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:32 pm
by dbackjon
89Hen wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:"I Don't Care How You Did It Up North"
Then you should have won the war. :twisted:

:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:52 pm
by Grizalltheway
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
D1B wrote:
Any one flying that shit wiper with receive a whip kick to the neck courtesy of D1B.
2 anti gunners tremble with fear and most of the metrosexuals out east
Aren't you on vacation, dork?

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:16 pm
by AZGrizFan
Baldy wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
That should only be intimidating to people whose necks are at about 2.5 feet off the ground
Tyrion Lannister is shaking in his boots.
:lol: :lol: :notworthy:

Re: The Southern Avenger Repents - I was WRONG about the Fla

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:02 pm
by D1B
CID1990 wrote:
D1B wrote:
Any one flying that **** wiper with receive a whip kick to the neck courtesy of D1B.
That should only be intimidating to people whose necks are at about 2.5 feet off the ground
You just made the whip kick list, Jimmy.