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In a leaked document. Apparently the Vatican isn't happy about the leak..

"Pope Francis will this week call for changes in lifestyles and energy consumption to avert the “unprecedented destruction of the ecosystem” before the end of this century, according to a leaked draft of a papal encyclical. In a document released by an Italian magazine on Monday, the pontiff will warn that failure to act would have “grave consequences for all of us”.

Francis also called for a new global political authority tasked with “tackling … the reduction of pollution and the development of poor countries and regions”...."
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/j ... encyclical" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Old man is off his rocker...

Ok D1B. Dish. If there was ever a time this is the time.

He asserts "...rich nations are destroying the poor nations..."

...ignores the medical, technological and engineering benefits those "rich nations" provide, often for free, to the "poor" developing nations.

The Pope is out of his league.

travelinman67 wrote:He asserts "...rich nations are destroying the poor nations..."

...ignores the medical, technological and engineering benefits those "rich nations" provide, often for free, to the "poor" developing nations.

The Pope is out of his league.

you mean like all the "free" stuff we provide the poor in this country, yet for some reason the vast majority of them remain poor even after 50+ years of providing free "stuff"?

Have you guys noticed the pope is finally doing just about everything I've been advocating?

It's almost like I'm running the church.

Z, what kind of world do you want your grandchildren to have? Thought so. You're a typical conk who only thinks of himself.

Good for you, King Troll!'

You finally came to your senses and now understand the importance of ending abortion and reinforcing the importance of the patriarchal family.

AZGrizFan wrote:

travelinman67 wrote:He asserts "...rich nations are destroying the poor nations..."

...ignores the medical, technological and engineering benefits those "rich nations" provide, often for free, to the "poor" developing nations.

The Pope is out of his league.

you mean like all the "free" stuff we provide the poor in this country, yet for some reason the vast majority of them remain poor even after 50+ years of providing free "stuff"?

You two remind me of this guy:

RANCHO SANTA FE – Drought or no drought, Steve Yuhas resents the idea that it is somehow shameful to be a water hog. If you can pay for it, he argues, you should get your water.

People “should not be forced to live on property with brown lawns, golf on brown courses or apologize for wanting their gardens to be beautiful,” Yuhas fumed recently on social media. “We pay significant property taxes based on where we live,” he added in an interview. “And no, we’re not all equal when it comes to water.”

Yuhas lives in the ultra-wealthy enclave of Rancho Santa Fe, a bucolic San Diego County hamlet of ranches, gated communities and country clubs that guzzles five times more water per capita than the statewide average. In April, after Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown called for a 25 percent reduction in water use, consumption in Rancho Santa Fe went up by 9 percent.

But a moment of truth is at hand for Yuhas and his neighbors, and all of California will be watching: On July 1, for the first time in its 92-year history, Rancho Santa Fe will be subject to water rationing.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/wate ... ancho.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

WAH!!


The Pope is doing what any spiritual humanist leader should do. Placing basic human needs above wealthy entitlement.

kalm wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote: you mean like all the "free" stuff we provide the poor in this country, yet for some reason the vast majority of them remain poor even after 50+ years of providing free "stuff"?

You two remind me of this guy:

RANCHO SANTA FE – Drought or no drought, Steve Yuhas resents the idea that it is somehow shameful to be a water hog. If you can pay for it, he argues, you should get your water.

People “should not be forced to live on property with brown lawns, golf on brown courses or apologize for wanting their gardens to be beautiful,” Yuhas fumed recently on social media. “We pay significant property taxes based on where we live,” he added in an interview. “And no, we’re not all equal when it comes to water.”

Yuhas lives in the ultra-wealthy enclave of Rancho Santa Fe, a bucolic San Diego County hamlet of ranches, gated communities and country clubs that guzzles five times more water per capita than the statewide average. In April, after Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown called for a 25 percent reduction in water use, consumption in Rancho Santa Fe went up by 9 percent.

But a moment of truth is at hand for Yuhas and his neighbors, and all of California will be watching: On July 1, for the first time in its 92-year history, Rancho Santa Fe will be subject to water rationing.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/wate ... ancho.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

WAH!!


The Pope is doing what any spiritual humanist leader should do. Placing basic human needs above wealthy entitlement.

I thought you were going to say the Pope is doing what Popes have always done. Telling people what they should believe and do

OL FU wrote:

kalm wrote:
You two remind me of this guy:



http://www.ocregister.com/articles/wate ... ancho.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

WAH!!


The Pope is doing what any spiritual humanist leader should do. Placing basic human needs above wealthy entitlement.

I thought you were going to say the Pope is doing what Popes have always done. Telling people what they should believe and do

Some people need that kind of help.

kalm wrote:

OL FU wrote:

I thought you were going to say the Pope is doing what Popes have always done. Telling people what they should believe and do

Some people need that kind of help.

That God we have the Pope

OL FU wrote:

kalm wrote:
Some people need that kind of help.

That God we have the Pope

kalm wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote: you mean like all the "free" stuff we provide the poor in this country, yet for some reason the vast majority of them remain poor even after 50+ years of providing free "stuff"?

You two remind me of this guy:

RANCHO SANTA FE – Drought or no drought, Steve Yuhas resents the idea that it is somehow shameful to be a water hog. If you can pay for it, he argues, you should get your water.

People “should not be forced to live on property with brown lawns, golf on brown courses or apologize for wanting their gardens to be beautiful,” Yuhas fumed recently on social media. “We pay significant property taxes based on where we live,” he added in an interview. “And no, we’re not all equal when it comes to water.”

Yuhas lives in the ultra-wealthy enclave of Rancho Santa Fe, a bucolic San Diego County hamlet of ranches, gated communities and country clubs that guzzles five times more water per capita than the statewide average. In April, after Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown called for a 25 percent reduction in water use, consumption in Rancho Santa Fe went up by 9 percent.

But a moment of truth is at hand for Yuhas and his neighbors, and all of California will be watching: On July 1, for the first time in its 92-year history, Rancho Santa Fe will be subject to water rationing.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/wate ... ancho.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

WAH!!


The Pope is doing what any spiritual humanist leader should do. Placing basic human needs above wealthy entitlement.

When you pay for it, it's not an entitlement.

Baldy wrote:

kalm wrote:
You two remind me of this guy:



http://www.ocregister.com/articles/wate ... ancho.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

WAH!!


The Pope is doing what any spiritual humanist leader should do. Placing basic human needs above wealthy entitlement.

When you pay for it, it's not an entitlement.

What?

So Social Security isn't an entitlement? (And that's not even the use of the word I was suggesting)

kalm wrote:

Baldy wrote: When you pay for it, it's not an entitlement.

What?

So Social Security isn't an entitlement? (And that's not even the use of the word I was suggesting)

Um, you DO understand that SSI is YOUR money, accumulated through payroll tax?

kalm wrote:

Baldy wrote: When you pay for it, it's not an entitlement.

What?

So Social Security isn't an entitlement? (And that's not even the use of the word I was suggesting)

Webster would like to have a word.

Entitlement - noun en·ti·tle·ment \-ˈtī-təl-mənt\

1. the feeling or belief that you deserve to be given something.

travelinman67 wrote:

kalm wrote:
What?

So Social Security isn't an entitlement? (And that's not even the use of the word I was suggesting)

Um, you DO understand that SSI is YOUR money, accumulated through payroll tax?

I believe kalm is in the camp that all money belongs to the government and whatever we earn is given to us because of the government's generosity and benevolence.

Baldy wrote:

kalm wrote:
What?

So Social Security isn't an entitlement? (And that's not even the use of the word I was suggesting)

Webster would like to have a word.

Entitlement - noun en·ti·tle·ment \-ˈtī-təl-mənt\

1. the feeling or belief that you deserve to be given something.

entitlement
See definition in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
Syllabification: en·ti·tle·ment
Pronunciation: /inˈtīdlmənt/ /enˈtīdlmənt/
Definition of entitlement in English:
noun

1The fact of having a right to something:
full entitlement to fees and maintenance should be offered
you should be fully aware of your legal entitlements
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.1The amount to which a person has a right:
annual leave entitlement
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.2The belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment:
no wonder your kids have a sense of entitlement
[AS MODIFIER]: this entitlement mentality is completely out of control
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.3US A government program that provides benefits to any individual meeting certain eligibility requirements:
Social Security, Medicare, and other entitlements are going broke
[AS MODIFIER]: entitlement programs
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCESentitlement
See definition in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
Syllabification: en·ti·tle·ment
Pronunciation: /inˈtīdlmənt/ /enˈtīdlmənt/
Definition of entitlement in English:
noun

1The fact of having a right to something:
full entitlement to fees and maintenance should be offered
you should be fully aware of your legal entitlements
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.1The amount to which a person has a right:
annual leave entitlement
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.2The belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment:
no wonder your kids have a sense of entitlement
[AS MODIFIER]: this entitlement mentality is completely out of control
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.3US A government program that provides benefits to any individual meeting certain eligibility requirements:
Social Security, Medicare, and other entitlements are going broke
[AS MODIFIER]: entitlement programs
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES

So if I pay into SS it must not be an entitlement according to your initial and gloriously dumb statement.

A sense of entitlement only applies to the poor!

Keep 'em coming boys, you're making my morning!

Baldy wrote:

travelinman67 wrote:
Um, you DO understand that SSI is YOUR money, accumulated through payroll tax?

I believe kalm is in the camp that all money belongs to the government and whatever we earn is given to us because of the government's generosity and benevolence.

Holy shit that's awesome and then tman...

kalm wrote: entitlement
See definition in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
Syllabification: en·ti·tle·ment
Pronunciation: /inˈtīdlmənt/ /enˈtīdlmənt/
Definition of entitlement in English:
noun

1The fact of having a right to something:
full entitlement to fees and maintenance should be offered
you should be fully aware of your legal entitlements
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.1The amount to which a person has a right:
annual leave entitlement
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.2The belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment:
no wonder your kids have a sense of entitlement
[AS MODIFIER]: this entitlement mentality is completely out of control
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.3US A government program that provides benefits to any individual meeting certain eligibility requirements:
Social Security, Medicare, and other entitlements are going broke
[AS MODIFIER]: entitlement programs
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCESentitlement
See definition in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
Syllabification: en·ti·tle·ment
Pronunciation: /inˈtīdlmənt/ /enˈtīdlmənt/
Definition of entitlement in English:
noun

1The fact of having a right to something:
full entitlement to fees and maintenance should be offered
you should be fully aware of your legal entitlements
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.1The amount to which a person has a right:
annual leave entitlement
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.2The belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment:
no wonder your kids have a sense of entitlement
[AS MODIFIER]: this entitlement mentality is completely out of control
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.3US A government program that provides benefits to any individual meeting certain eligibility requirements:
Social Security, Medicare, and other entitlements are going broke
[AS MODIFIER]: entitlement programs
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES

So if I pay into SS it must not be an entitlement according to your initial and gloriously dumb statement.

A sense of entitlement only applies to the poor!

Keep 'em coming boys, you're making my morning!

kalm, you're a precious treasure.

"...a precious treasure." ???

No.

A fucking idiot.

travelinman67 wrote:"...a precious treasure." ???

No.

A fucking idiot.

You should be content with this quick beating and your name calling confirms it. Do I really need to explain this to you?

Baldy wrote:

kalm wrote: entitlement
See definition in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
Syllabification: en·ti·tle·ment
Pronunciation: /inˈtīdlmənt/ /enˈtīdlmənt/
Definition of entitlement in English:
noun

1The fact of having a right to something:
full entitlement to fees and maintenance should be offered
you should be fully aware of your legal entitlements
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.1The amount to which a person has a right:
annual leave entitlement
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.2The belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment:
no wonder your kids have a sense of entitlement
[AS MODIFIER]: this entitlement mentality is completely out of control
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.3US A government program that provides benefits to any individual meeting certain eligibility requirements:
Social Security, Medicare, and other entitlements are going broke
[AS MODIFIER]: entitlement programs
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCESentitlement
See definition in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
Syllabification: en·ti·tle·ment
Pronunciation: /inˈtīdlmənt/ /enˈtīdlmənt/
Definition of entitlement in English:
noun

1The fact of having a right to something:
full entitlement to fees and maintenance should be offered
you should be fully aware of your legal entitlements
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.1The amount to which a person has a right:
annual leave entitlement
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.2The belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment:
no wonder your kids have a sense of entitlement
[AS MODIFIER]: this entitlement mentality is completely out of control
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.3US A government program that provides benefits to any individual meeting certain eligibility requirements:
Social Security, Medicare, and other entitlements are going broke
[AS MODIFIER]: entitlement programs
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES

So if I pay into SS it must not be an entitlement according to your initial and gloriously dumb statement.

A sense of entitlement only applies to the poor!

Keep 'em coming boys, you're making my morning!

kalm, you're a precious treasure.

Can the wealthy feel a sense of entitlement?

Do you and I pay into SS?

I know you won't cop to the absurdity of your statement and I want you to know I'm ok with that. You do you, champ!

So now all the anti religion guys want to follow the pope?

God works in mysterious ways

kalm wrote: Can the wealthy feel a sense of entitlement?

Do you and I pay into SS?

I know you won't cop to the absurdity of your statement and I want you to know I'm ok with that. You do you, champ!

Well...you didn't say the "wealthy feel a sense of entitlement".

You said:

kalm wrote:Placing basic human needs above wealthy entitlement.

FYI, feeling a sense of entitlement and an entitlement in and of itself are two entirely different statements and have two entirely different meanings.

Maybe you want to try again???

I know you struggle with these things...the nuance and all that stuff.
I'm here for you.

The gift that keeps on giving.

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:So now all the anti religion guys want to follow the pope?

God works in mysterious ways

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