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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... renewables" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;The race for renewable energy has passed a turning point. The world is now adding more capacity for renewable power each year than coal, natural gas, and oil combined. And there's no going back.
The shift occurred in 2013, when the world added 143 gigawatts of renewable electricity capacity, compared with 141 gigawatts in new plants that burn fossil fuels, according to an analysis presented Tuesday at the Bloomberg New Energy Finance annual summit in New York. The shift will continue to accelerate, and by 2030 more than four times as much renewable capacity will be added.
Robots will displace most of those solar workers in the next 10-15 years.Chizzang wrote:Its a good day when:
The number of solar workers has finally passed the number of coal workers
http://www.treehugger.com/green-jobs/so ... onomy.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
True. And to see the real economic impact you'd need to account for healthcare and pollution related costs of each industry.JohnStOnge wrote:There's kind of an obvious problem with the comparison. Coal miners are only part of the total workforce associated with energy produced from coal. I don't know how it would turn out if you compared the number of all workers involved in the production of energy from solar to the number of all workers involved in the production of energy from coal but it's pretty obvious that for a meaningful comparison you'd have to include all workers involved in the production of energy from coal and not just coal miners.
the POINT is Solar industry is providing jobs at a rate 20X faster than the rest of the U.S. EconomyJohnStOnge wrote:There's kind of an obvious problem with the comparison. Coal miners are only part of the total workforce associated with energy produced from coal. I don't know how it would turn out if you compared the number of all workers involved in the production of energy from solar to the number of all workers involved in the production of energy from coal but it's pretty obvious that for a meaningful comparison you'd have to include all workers involved in the production of energy from coal and not just coal miners.
So it's safe you say you dig fracking? No pun intended, of course.Chizzang wrote:the POINT is Solar industry is providing jobs at a rate 20X faster than the rest of the U.S. EconomyJohnStOnge wrote:There's kind of an obvious problem with the comparison. Coal miners are only part of the total workforce associated with energy produced from coal. I don't know how it would turn out if you compared the number of all workers involved in the production of energy from solar to the number of all workers involved in the production of energy from coal but it's pretty obvious that for a meaningful comparison you'd have to include all workers involved in the production of energy from coal and not just coal miners.
Its strong growth in a stagnant economy
its a GOOD THING John
I know its against your nature to admit a simple victory - to your most hated demographic
This is a WELL DUH momentChizzang wrote:the POINT is Solar industry is providing jobs at a rate 20X faster than the rest of the U.S. EconomyJohnStOnge wrote:There's kind of an obvious problem with the comparison. Coal miners are only part of the total workforce associated with energy produced from coal. I don't know how it would turn out if you compared the number of all workers involved in the production of energy from solar to the number of all workers involved in the production of energy from coal but it's pretty obvious that for a meaningful comparison you'd have to include all workers involved in the production of energy from coal and not just coal miners.
Its strong growth in a stagnant economy
its a GOOD THING John
I know its against your nature to admit a simple victory - to your most hated demographic
CID1990 wrote:This is a WELL DUH momentChizzang wrote:
the POINT is Solar industry is providing jobs at a rate 20X faster than the rest of the U.S. Economy
Its strong growth in a stagnant economy
its a GOOD THING John
I know its against your nature to admit a simple victory - to your most hated demographic
If solar jobs WEREN'T outgrowing coal jobs at an exponential rate I'd question the numbers
coal is a topped out energy infrastructure and at this point it couldn't "grow" if we wanted it to
plus every house or building that goes solar lessens our coal consumption
stay tuned for my next class where I will discuss the answer to the age old problem, 2 + 2 =
Why do you always ruin John's posts by getting back to the point?Chizzang wrote:the POINT is Solar industry is providing jobs at a rate 20X faster than the rest of the U.S. EconomyJohnStOnge wrote:There's kind of an obvious problem with the comparison. Coal miners are only part of the total workforce associated with energy produced from coal. I don't know how it would turn out if you compared the number of all workers involved in the production of energy from solar to the number of all workers involved in the production of energy from coal but it's pretty obvious that for a meaningful comparison you'd have to include all workers involved in the production of energy from coal and not just coal miners.
Its strong growth in a stagnant economy
its a GOOD THING John
I know its against your nature to admit a simple victory - to your most hated demographic
So have you gone all green yet? I've got some green credits from an Iowawesome wind farm when you or anyone else is ready to commit. Green-e certified. http://www.green-e.org/Grizalltheway wrote:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... renewables" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;The race for renewable energy has passed a turning point. The world is now adding more capacity for renewable power each year than coal, natural gas, and oil combined. And there's no going back.
The shift occurred in 2013, when the world added 143 gigawatts of renewable electricity capacity, compared with 141 gigawatts in new plants that burn fossil fuels, according to an analysis presented Tuesday at the Bloomberg New Energy Finance annual summit in New York. The shift will continue to accelerate, and by 2030 more than four times as much renewable capacity will be added.
I have no problem with people in solar energy doing well. That's fine as long as there is no government effort to suppress growth in other energy sectors while endeavoring to promote this one.Chizzang wrote:the POINT is Solar industry is providing jobs at a rate 20X faster than the rest of the U.S. EconomyJohnStOnge wrote:There's kind of an obvious problem with the comparison. Coal miners are only part of the total workforce associated with energy produced from coal. I don't know how it would turn out if you compared the number of all workers involved in the production of energy from solar to the number of all workers involved in the production of energy from coal but it's pretty obvious that for a meaningful comparison you'd have to include all workers involved in the production of energy from coal and not just coal miners.
Its strong growth in a stagnant economy
its a GOOD THING John
I know its against your nature to admit a simple victory - to your most hated demographic