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The IAM has filed complaints with the NLRB against Boeing in South Carolina. We all recall the first (or not) but the latest was just dismissed. The Union had scheduled a vote to see if the workers wanted to form a union. But because some workers had the call to get upset when union members went to thier homes to get them sign up (and pull guns on them) the IAM filed a complaint saying Boeing encourgaed the harrassment and aggression. The NRLB, seeing through the bullshit, dismissed it.

The IAM:

the IAM alleged that a Boeing employee threatened two union recruiters at gunpoint while they were making home visits to raise support for the vote.

The NRLB:

The NLRB concluded there was no evidence proving the individual who threatened IAM organizers with a gun was an agent of Boeing, or otherwise acting at the behest of Boeing

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/2 ... eston-site" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The government has worked. I know people, democrat and liberal, that are against the IAM. I have 3 neighbors on my street that work at Boeing (one of whom has Obama stickers all over the cars) and they all told me over the weekend - in their experience and dealings with the union- that the IAM is the one creating the animosity between worker and management. Go figure...

Spoiler: show

Let's hope they keep calm when Volvo starts up (in case you didn't hear, SC will have Volvo's first US manufacturing facility)
http://www.wsj.com/articles/volvo-car-c ... 1431340237" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

South Carolina landed its second car factory this year, luring Volvo Car Corp. with a financing package that offers about 25 cents in incentives for every dollar the Chinese-owned auto maker spends.

Volvo later this year will break ground on a $500 million factory, its first in the U.S., that will open in 2018 near shipping ports and Interstate 95. State and local officials offered a $120 million incentives package including funds to develop property near the Port of Charleston, improve road access and lower taxes. The state of Georgia also vied for the factory.

Volvo is going to ressurect a few old mill towns when they break ground. I know..I know.. It's a Chinese owned company...the horror of globalization.

Most folks are on to the unions. They served their purpose in past years but most of what they worked for back then is now codified into law and workers have recourse when there are abuses.

There are still diehard union types but they are the left's pariahs as the fundies are the right's.

Good for SC.

CID1990 wrote:Most folks are on to the unions. They served their purpose in past years but most of what they worked for back then is now codified into law and workers have recourse when there are abuses.

There are still diehard union types but they are the left's pariahs as the fundies are the right's.

Good for SC.

Man ain't that the truth...
Jeezus Washington state can't get rid of them f*ckers fast enough

Talk about your "worn out welcome"

Chizzang wrote:

CID1990 wrote:Most folks are on to the unions. They served their purpose in past years but most of what they worked for back then is now codified into law and workers have recourse when there are abuses.

There are still diehard union types but they are the left's pariahs as the fundies are the right's.

Good for SC.

Man ain't that the truth...
Jeezus Washington state can't get rid of them f*ckers fast enough

Talk about your "worn out welcome"

I bet JILL would disagree with you, wouldn't she?

Chizzang wrote:

CID1990 wrote:Most folks are on to the unions. They served their purpose in past years but most of what they worked for back then is now codified into law and workers have recourse when there are abuses.

There are still diehard union types but they are the left's pariahs as the fundies are the right's.

Good for SC.

Man ain't that the truth...
Jeezus Washington state can't get rid of them f*ckers fast enough

Talk about your "worn out welcome"

Washington State doesn't agree.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-new ... to-boeing/
http://www.seattletimes.com/business/wa ... b-into-sc/

Ibanez wrote:The IAM has filed complaints with the NLRB against Boeing in South Carolina. We all recall the first (or not) but the latest was just dismissed. The Union had scheduled a vote to see if the workers wanted to form a union. But because some workers had the call to get upset when union members went to thier homes to get them sign up (and pull guns on them) the IAM filed a complaint saying Boeing encourgaed the harrassment and aggression. The NRLB, seeing through the bullshit, dismissed it.

The IAM:

the IAM alleged that a Boeing employee threatened two union recruiters at gunpoint while they were making home visits to raise support for the vote.

The NRLB:

The NLRB concluded there was no evidence proving the individual who threatened IAM organizers with a gun was an agent of Boeing, or otherwise acting at the behest of Boeing

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/2 ... eston-site" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The government has worked. I know people, democrat and liberal, that are against the IAM. I have 3 neighbors on my street that work at Boeing (one of whom has Obama stickers all over the cars) and they all told me over the weekend - in their experience and dealings with the union- that the IAM is the one creating the animosity between worker and management. Go figure...

Spoiler: show

Let's hope they keep calm when Volvo starts up (in case you didn't hear, SC will have Volvo's first US manufacturing facility)
http://www.wsj.com/articles/volvo-car-c ... 1431340237" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

South Carolina landed its second car factory this year, luring Volvo Car Corp. with a financing package that offers about 25 cents in incentives for every dollar the Chinese-owned auto maker spends.

Volvo later this year will break ground on a $500 million factory, its first in the U.S., that will open in 2018 near shipping ports and Interstate 95. State and local officials offered a $120 million incentives package including funds to develop property near the Port of Charleston, improve road access and lower taxes. The state of Georgia also vied for the factory.

Volvo is going to ressurect a few old mill towns when they break ground. I know..I know.. It's a Chinese owned company...the horror of globalization.

Hopefully this will be incentive for SC to finally address I-95. My God what a miserable piece of highway. It's like riding on a dirt road. Almost as bad as I-10 through Louisiana.

CID1990 wrote:Most folks are on to the unions. They served their purpose in past years but most of what they worked for back then is now codified into law and workers have recourse when there are abuses.

There are still diehard union types but they are the left's pariahs as the fundies are the right's.

Good for SC.

Thats some real insight there given that 90% of workers in the nation aren't union. Thanks for sharing.

America peaked when unions were strong. Been in decline ever since Reagan took office. We're keeping the economy propped up with endless war.

Nobody's fault, really, just part of the life cycle of an empire.

houndawg wrote:

CID1990 wrote:Most folks are on to the unions. They served their purpose in past years but most of what they worked for back then is now codified into law and workers have recourse when there are abuses.

There are still diehard union types but they are the left's pariahs as the fundies are the right's.

Good for SC.

Thats some real insight there given that 90% of workers in the nation aren't union. Thanks for sharing.

America peaked when unions were strong. Been in decline ever since Reagan took office. We're keeping the economy propped up with endless war.

Nobody's fault, really, just part of the life cycle of an empire.

Yeah...THAT'S why America peaked.

But you're right about one thing: Every president since Reagan has been worse than the one before. It'll never get better than Reagan.

AZGrizFan wrote:

houndawg wrote:

Thats some real insight there given that 90% of workers in the nation aren't union. Thanks for sharing.

America peaked when unions were strong. Been in decline ever since Reagan took office. We're keeping the economy propped up with endless war.

Nobody's fault, really, just part of the life cycle of an empire.

Yeah...THAT'S why America peaked.

But you're right about one thing: Every president since Reagan has been worse than the one before. It'll never get better than Reagan.

Wasn't Mork and Mindy around when America peaked?

Is it a coincidence that we've been in decline ever since?

Cluck U wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:

Yeah...THAT'S why America peaked.

But you're right about one thing: Every president since Reagan has been worse than the one before. It'll never get better than Reagan.

Wasn't Mork and Mindy around when America peaked?

Is it a coincidence that we've been in decline ever since?

Before Reagan, Stagflation and the Misery Index were pegged. Interest rates were 21%, and 50 something Americans were held as hostages in Iran for 444 days.
AKA - The Peak of 'Murican Civilization.

AZGrizFan wrote:

houndawg wrote:

Thats some real insight there given that 90% of workers in the nation aren't union. Thanks for sharing.

America peaked when unions were strong. Been in decline ever since Reagan took office. We're keeping the economy propped up with endless war.

Nobody's fault, really, just part of the life cycle of an empire.

Yeah...THAT'S why America peaked.

But you're right about one thing: Every president since Reagan has been worse than the one before. It'll never get better than Reagan.

That and corporations paid their fair share.

We're all in this together, comrade.

Baldy wrote:

Cluck U wrote:
Wasn't Mork and Mindy around when America peaked?

Is it a coincidence that we've been in decline ever since?

Before Reagan, Stagflation and the Misery Index were pegged. Interest rates were 21%, and 50 something Americans were held as hostages in Iran for 444 days.
AKA - The Peak of 'Murican Civilization.

They would have been out sooner but the most corrupt admin in US history was already cutting a deal behind the Carter admin's back.

houndawg wrote:

Baldy wrote: Before Reagan, Stagflation and the Misery Index were pegged. Interest rates were 21%, and 50 something Americans were held as hostages in Iran for 444 days.
AKA - The Peak of 'Murican Civilization.

They would have been out sooner but the most corrupt admin in US history was already cutting a deal behind the Carter admin's back.

Source? Link?

Spanosdawg.

houndawg wrote:

Baldy wrote: Before Reagan, Stagflation and the Misery Index were pegged. Interest rates were 21%, and 50 something Americans were held as hostages in Iran for 444 days.
AKA - The Peak of 'Murican Civilization.

They would have been out sooner but the most corrupt admin in US history was already cutting a deal behind the Carter admin's back.

Of course kooks like you, Spandos, and Gary Sick believe that..

"No Evidence' Of Reagan-iran Hostage Deal

WASHINGTON — A bipartisan House panel has concluded that there is no merit to the persistent accusations that people associated with the 1980 presidential campaign of Ronald Reagan struck a secret deal with Iran to delay the release of American hostages until after the election.

"There is no credible evidence supporting any attempt or proposal to attempt by the Reagan presidential campaign, or persons representing or associated with the campaign to delay the release of the American hostages in Iran," the panel concluded in a summary of its report, which was to be made public Wednesday.

The summary describes the report as "the most thorough and complete investigation and analysis of the October surprise allegations to date."

More than 230 people were interviewed in several countries by 10 lawyers and six investigators working for the House October Surprise Task Force. Hotel, telephone and credit card records were checked against allegations made by the accusers....."
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993 ... n-hostages" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Reagan's "October Surprise" is Still Getting Debunked
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... prise.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Unions are people my friend.

Boeing was quick to point out that IAM was against the Charleston facility. Went on to point out IAM only cared about SC after they hit their stride.

houndawg wrote:

CID1990 wrote:Most folks are on to the unions. They served their purpose in past years but most of what they worked for back then is now codified into law and workers have recourse when there are abuses.

There are still diehard union types but they are the left's pariahs as the fundies are the right's.

Good for SC.

Thats some real insight there given that 90% of workers in the nation aren't union. Thanks for sharing.

America peaked when unions were strong. Been in decline ever since Reagan took office. We're keeping the economy propped up with endless war.

Nobody's fault, really, just part of the life cycle of an empire.

Negative, Disinformation breath.

1987....Black Monday, and...

...the release of Red Bull.

kalm wrote:Unions are people my friend.

So are child molesters.

Your point?

My point wasn't that Inslee and every other politician isn't licking Boeing balls - because they are
What I'm talking about is the housing market and other related issues

People who actually work for a living in King County deal with HUGE inflated market prices (on everything)
The free market world was not designed that every troglodyte could buy a house
and every slacker mouth breather making $35 an hour with 4 weeks off a year

Example:
King County now has to move the minimum wage up to $15

Chizzang wrote:My point wasn't that Inslee and every other politician isn't licking Boeing balls - because they are
What I'm talking about is the housing market and other related issues

People who actually work for a living in King County deal with HUGE inflated market prices (on everything)
The free market world was not designed that every troglodyte could buy a house
and every slacker mouth breather making $35 an hour with 4 weeks off a year

Example:
King County now has to move the minimum wage up to $15

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

Having trouble balancing paradise on a budget?

Cluck U wrote:

Chizzang wrote:My point wasn't that Inslee and every other politician isn't licking Boeing balls - because they are
What I'm talking about is the housing market and other related issues

People who actually work for a living in King County deal with HUGE inflated market prices (on everything)
The free market world was not designed that every troglodyte could buy a house
and every slacker mouth breather making $35 an hour with 4 weeks off a year

Example:
King County now has to move the minimum wage up to $15

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

Having trouble balancing paradise on a budget?

I knew you'd have something hilarious to deliver
gawd I loves you so hard right nows

Chizzang wrote:

Cluck U wrote:
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

Having trouble balancing paradise on a budget?

I knew you'd have something hilarious to deliver
gawd I loves you so hard right nows

Yeah I lawled at that one too

CID1990 wrote:

Chizzang wrote:


I knew you'd have something hilarious to deliver
gawd I loves you so hard right nows

Yeah I lawled at that one too

Between you and Cluck I could just hang out here all day laughing my ass off
You know - back in the day it was GATW and AZ that used to be hilarious
particularly when commenting in the same threads together

But its absolutely been Cluck and CID warming my heart this past year (or more)

Chizzang wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
Yeah I lawled at that one too

Between you and Cluck I could just hang out here all day laughing my ass off
You know - back in the day it was GATW and AZ that used to be hilarious
particularly when commenting in the same threads together

But its absolutely been Cluck and CID warming my heart this past year (or more)

yeah, well when you laughed at GATW and AZ it was in a "hey look at the zoo monkeys jacking off" kind of way

when you laugh at me its because I am stimulatingly funny in an Einstein meets Yogi Berra kind of way

CID1990 wrote:

Chizzang wrote:

Between you and Cluck I could just hang out here all day laughing my ass off
You know - back in the day it was GATW and AZ that used to be hilarious
particularly when commenting in the same threads together

But its absolutely been Cluck and CID warming my heart this past year (or more)

yeah, well when you laughed at GATW and AZ it was in a "hey look at the zoo monkeys jacking off" kind of way

when you laugh at me its because I am stimulatingly funny in an Einstein meets Yogi Berra kind of way

I would have gone with cerebrally.