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Dear American Conks...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 12:31 pm
by kalm
Forget about gay marriage and universal healthcare, evolve, and win.
But what they all show their American counterparts is that the fear of a “tipping point” beyond which a state plunges into socialist dependency is utterly misplaced. Countries with universal health coverage, for instance, can be hospitable to conservatives—if conservatives can resist the impulse to repeal that coverage. It’s the resistance to the program, not the program itself, that sinks conservative hopes. Politics doesn’t tip. It evolves. And winning conservative parties evolve with it.
http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa ... es/392852/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Dear American Conks...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 1:40 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
No
Re: Dear American Conks...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 1:54 pm
by kalm
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:No
Forgot the link. Evolve or die.
Re: Dear American Conks...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 3:16 pm
by Ivytalk
WAFJ! Trollmeister klam posts thread from reliably Donk rag Atlantic to prove conservatives can "evolve" -- by becoming more liberal! And I read it, and it was tediously and tendentiously predictable.
David Cameron is philosophically akin to that Utah guy -- what was his name? Got co-opted by Obama? Huntsman?
Re: Dear American Conks...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 4:10 pm
by kalm
Ivytalk wrote:WAFJ! Trollmeister klam posts thread from reliably Donk rag Atlantic to prove conservatives can "evolve" -- by becoming more liberal! And I read it, and it was tediously and tendentiously predictable.
David Cameron is philosophically akin to that Utah guy -- what was his name? Got co-opted by Obama? Huntsman?
Frum and I are just trying to help you troglodytes out. Ungrateful assholes...
Re: Dear American Conks...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 4:18 pm
by andy7171
Oh yeah. Tell us again you are independent. Lolz.
Re: Dear American Conks...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 4:22 pm
by Ivytalk
kalm wrote:Ivytalk wrote:WAFJ! Trollmeister klam posts thread from reliably Donk rag Atlantic to prove conservatives can "evolve" -- by becoming more liberal! And I read it, and it was tediously and tendentiously predictable.
David Cameron is philosophically akin to that Utah guy -- what was his name? Got co-opted by Obama? Huntsman?
Frum and I are just trying to help you troglodytes out. Ungrateful assholes...
David Frum is dback's favorite "Republican." And Hilary Bottom Clinton's.
Re: Dear American Conks...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 4:42 pm
by Baldy
kalm wrote:Forget about gay marriage and universal healthcare, evolve, and win.
But what they all show their American counterparts is that the fear of a “tipping point” beyond which a state plunges into socialist dependency is utterly misplaced. Countries with universal health coverage, for instance, can be hospitable to conservatives—if conservatives can resist the impulse to repeal that coverage. It’s the resistance to the program, not the program itself, that sinks conservative hopes. Politics doesn’t tip. It evolves. And winning conservative parties evolve with it.
http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa ... es/392852/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ummm 2010 and 2014 would like to have a word.
Re: Dear American Conks...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 4:46 pm
by Baldy
Ivytalk wrote:kalm wrote:
Frum and I are just trying to help you troglodytes out. Ungrateful assholes...
David Frum is dback's favorite "Republican." And Hilary Bottom Clinton's.
Frum is to the Atlantic what David Brooks is to the NY Times. A token.
Re: Dear American Conks...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 5:00 pm
by kalm
andy7171 wrote:Oh yeah. Tell us again you are independent. Lolz.
Well, Cid jr., I voted for Gary Johnson last election and will not vote for Hilary in this one so....
Re: Dear American Conks...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 5:18 pm
by Baldy
kalm wrote:andy7171 wrote:Oh yeah. Tell us again you are independent. Lolz.
Well, Cid jr., I voted for Gary Johnson last election and will not vote for Hilary in this one so....
You're voting for that thoughtful moderate Bernie Sanders, right?
Re: Dear American Conks...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 5:33 pm
by kalm
Re: Dear American Conks...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 11:12 pm
by CID1990
andy7171 wrote:Oh yeah. Tell us again you are independent. Lolz.
He's decided to come out of the closet and get in touch with his inner hard core progressive.
It's safer than playing "dress up" moderate and getting whipped like the family mule
Re: Dear American Conks...
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 5:50 am
by kalm
CID1990 wrote:andy7171 wrote:Oh yeah. Tell us again you are independent. Lolz.
He's decided to come out of the closet and get in touch with his inner hard core progressive.
It's safer than playing "dress up" moderate and getting whipped like the family mule
Americans are more progressive than either of the two parties, even ignant South Carolinians.
http://gothamist.com/2012/01/10/poll_67 ... ers_be.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
