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...along with most major Democratic cities.

Murder rates, corruption, violence of all types...and no solution (other than to blame the rich).

Keep electing Aho dopes to lead your shit-hole cities.


Discuss.

That mayor is pretty sharp. She agrees with the Purge idea many folks here proposed.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_5KQC7k8Lc[/youtube]

Nice. So are the shopkeepers and car owners who had their property destroyed via inaction going to be reimbursed from the city?

ASUG8 wrote:Nice. So are the shopkeepers and car owners who had their property destroyed via inaction going to be reimbursed from the city?

Insurance rates probably just skyrocketed in Baltimore.

I guess this is a good thread to say this: I wish SOMEONE in the public eye would have the guts to push back and suggest that maybe the cultures of places like that are a factor in what goes on. Yes, police need to be held accountable and they tend to get too rough in a lot of situations. But at the same time that becomes more likely when they have to go out day after day in a community with a critical mass of savages in the population.

This spate of high profile instances of police misconduct have not involved them just walking up to people who never get in any trouble and are reading library books in the park or something like that. All of the people on the receiving end were habitual offenders whose own actions contributed to the situation. In this latest case,if I'm counting right, the guy had 18 prior arrests over a little less than 8 years. A lot of it was drug stuff be just this past March 13 he was arrested for Malicious destruction of property and second-degree assault. And this past January 20 he was arrested for burglary and trespassing. He took off running for some reason. I wouldn't be surprised if the police were familiar with him and that contributed to their response.

The guy that was shot in the back would not have been hurt if he hadn't had a warrant out for him and ran from the officer twice. The guy who died in the chokehold in New York was another guy with a substantial criminal record who was resisting efforts to take him into custody. Michael Brown was a thug who had just finished strong arm robbing a convenience store and probably was shot while charging a police officer after having just attacked the guy in his patrol car.

This thing where they make it sound like there are police officers out there just randomly attacking black males under circumstances where the behavior of the both the Black males themselves as well as the behavior of critical mass of people in the communities they live in are not factors is a bunch of crap. I don't expect any politician to have the guts to say it but it's true. The people in those communities need to quit complaining about what everybody else does TO them and start looking at how they themselves behave.

And like today I've seen several pieces where people from that community point out that the shops that were destroyed didn't belong to Blacks in the community as though that makes it OK. There was even one piece where the guy pointed to a store down the street and noted how it wasn't attacked because some local Black people owned it. Then they complain about being called what they are (thugs).

And the thing where the Crips and Bloods do their thing. Them being 'respected" to be in that role tells you all you need to know about the community. Their problem isn't all what other people are doing. It's more what THEY are doing. It's a squalid culture. If you don't want to be called thugs and have people to expect you to be thugs don't act like a bunch of savages. And don't have the Crips and the Bloods being a face of your culture.

And these young White people that show up to march in stuff like this make me want to puke. What a bunch of dumbasses. If they'd have walked down the street in the community they're marching in support of right now a month ago at midnight dressed like they had money with rolex watches on there's a good chance they'd have gotten mugged. Maybe even killed. There are a lot of people in that community who would just as soon beat the crap out of them as look at them. Idiots.

JFC

andy7171 wrote:JFC

John Fucks C?

JohnStOnge wrote:I guess this is a good thread to say this: I wish SOMEONE in the public eye would have the guts to push back and suggest that maybe the cultures of places like that are a factor in what goes on. Yes, police need to be held accountable and they tend to get too rough in a lot of situations. But at the same time that becomes more likely when they have to go out day after day in a community with a critical mass of savages in the population.

This spate of high profile instances of police misconduct have not involved them just walking up to people who never get in any trouble and are reading library books in the park or something like that. All of the people on the receiving end were habitual offenders whose own actions contributed to the situation. In this latest case,if I'm counting right, the guy had 18 prior arrests over a little less than 8 years. A lot of it was drug stuff be just this past March 13 he was arrested for Malicious destruction of property and second-degree assault. And this past January 20 he was arrested for burglary and trespassing. He took off running for some reason. I wouldn't be surprised if the police were familiar with him and that contributed to their response.

The guy that was shot in the back would not have been hurt if he hadn't had a warrant out for him and ran from the officer twice. The guy who died in the chokehold in New York was another guy with a substantial criminal record who was resisting efforts to take him into custody. Michael Brown was a thug who had just finished strong arm robbing a convenience store and probably was shot while charging a police officer after having just attacked the guy in his patrol car.

This thing where they make it sound like there are police officers out there just randomly attacking black males under circumstances where the behavior of the both the Black males themselves as well as the behavior of critical mass of people in the communities they live in are not factors is a bunch of crap. I don't expect any politician to have the guts to say it but it's true. The people in those communities need to quit complaining about what everybody else does TO them and start looking at how they themselves behave.

And like today I've seen several pieces where people from that community point out that the shops that were destroyed didn't belong to Blacks in the community as though that makes it OK. There was even one piece where the guy pointed to a store down the street and noted how it wasn't attacked because some local Black people owned it. Then they complain about being called what they are (thugs).

And the thing where the Crips and Bloods do their thing. Them being 'respected" to be in that role tells you all you need to know about the community. Their problem isn't all what other people are doing. It's more what THEY are doing. It's a squalid culture. If you don't want to be called thugs and have people to expect you to be thugs don't act like a bunch of savages. And don't have the Crips and the Bloods being a face of your culture.

Thank you for sharing, John. We always appreciate your deep insight into other cultures.

JohnStOnge wrote:And these young White people that show up to march in stuff like this make me want to puke. What a bunch of dumbasses. If they'd have walked down the street in the community they're marching in support of right now a month ago at midnight dressed like they had money with rolex watches on there's a good chance they'd have gotten mugged. Maybe even killed. There are a lot of people in that community who would just as soon beat the crap out of them as look at them. Idiots.

What percentage john, would you say of black people are muggers and thieves...

JohnStOnge wrote:I guess this is a good thread to say this: I wish SOMEONE in the public eye would have the guts to push back and suggest that maybe the cultures of places like that are a factor in what goes on. Yes, police need to be held accountable and they tend to get too rough in a lot of situations. But at the same time that becomes more likely when they have to go out day after day in a community with a critical mass of savages in the population.

This spate of high profile instances of police misconduct have not involved them just walking up to people who never get in any trouble and are reading library books in the park or something like that. All of the people on the receiving end were habitual offenders whose own actions contributed to the situation. In this latest case,if I'm counting right, the guy had 18 prior arrests over a little less than 8 years. A lot of it was drug stuff be just this past March 13 he was arrested for Malicious destruction of property and second-degree assault. And this past January 20 he was arrested for burglary and trespassing. He took off running for some reason. I wouldn't be surprised if the police were familiar with him and that contributed to their response.

The guy that was shot in the back would not have been hurt if he hadn't had a warrant out for him and ran from the officer twice. The guy who died in the chokehold in New York was another guy with a substantial criminal record who was resisting efforts to take him into custody. Michael Brown was a thug who had just finished strong arm robbing a convenience store and probably was shot while charging a police officer after having just attacked the guy in his patrol car.

This thing where they make it sound like there are police officers out there just randomly attacking black males under circumstances where the behavior of the both the Black males themselves as well as the behavior of critical mass of people in the communities they live in are not factors is a bunch of crap. I don't expect any politician to have the guts to say it but it's true. The people in those communities need to quit complaining about what everybody else does TO them and start looking at how they themselves behave.

And like today I've seen several pieces where people from that community point out that the shops that were destroyed didn't belong to Blacks in the community as though that makes it OK. There was even one piece where the guy pointed to a store down the street and noted how it wasn't attacked because some local Black people owned it. Then they complain about being called what they are (thugs).

And the thing where the Crips and Bloods do their thing. Them being 'respected" to be in that role tells you all you need to know about the community. Their problem isn't all what other people are doing. It's more what THEY are doing. It's a squalid culture. If you don't want to be called thugs and have people to expect you to be thugs don't act like a bunch of savages. And don't have the Crips and the Bloods being a face of your culture.

That one kid in Cleveland was a thug in the making I'm sure.

That one kid in Cleveland was a thug in the making I'm sure.

That's a valid point and I didn't recall that one before I wrote. However, it's reasonable to believe the general nature of the community was a factor. Cops are in a place where there are a bunch of savages and all sorts of things go on. They see a kid with a gun and don't recognize it as a toy.

People say cops do react in certain ways because of the "Blackness." I think people need to consider the possibility that they react in certain ways because of what they encounter all the time in those areas.

Also, on a second level, Black males just flat out are "more likely" to be involved in violent crime. As I've said before that's not just based on arrests and criminal convictions. That outlook is bolstered by reports of victims on the race of each offender. There is absolutely NO reasonable question that Black males are more of a problem as far as crime goes than any other major race/sex combination is and it's not close.

People need to start recognizing that there are two sides to this story. A lot of what Black males experience is due to the behavior of Black males. And yes I realize that it's not all Black males or even most Black males. But it's way too many of them.

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If this is true, then WTF.

What percentage john, would you say of black people are muggers and thieves...

I don't know but it's obviously enough to cause a serious problem in certain areas. Do you really doubt what I'm going to find if I do an assessment of metropolitan area violent and property crime rates vs. percent Black population? Or maybe I can do States. That might be quicker and easier. Then someone will say maybe it's poverty. Then if I do something to take poverty into account it won't entirely account for higher percentages of Blacks are associated with more problems.

It's amazing to me that you guys can watch the responses of communities like Ferguson Missouri and now Baltimore and not see that there are some problems with those communities. They basically validated the attitude cops had about them.

And now we have this:

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A prisoner sharing a police transport van with Freddie Gray told investigators that he could hear Gray “banging against the walls” of the vehicle and believed that he “was intentionally trying to injure himself,” according to an investigative document obtained by The Washington Post.

You people and everybody else have got to stop making excuses for those communities and acting like their general population behavior is not a factor in the problem.

Of course I say that in a rhetorical sense because it's not going to happen. People are going to continue to make excuses for them.

JohnStOnge wrote:And now we have this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/cri ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A prisoner sharing a police transport van with Freddie Gray told investigators that he could hear Gray “banging against the walls” of the vehicle and believed that he “was intentionally trying to injure himself,” according to an investigative document obtained by The Washington Post.

You people and everybody else have got to stop making excuses for those communities and acting like their general population behavior is not a factor in the problem.

Of course I say that in a rhetorical sense because it's not going to happen. People are going to continue to make excuses for them.

I don't think anyone here is really disputing that it's partly a cultural problem. Except maybe Dal.

The words Baltimore and Dumb are interchangeable.

I don't think anyone here is really disputing that it's partly a cultural problem.

But why won't public leaders say it? Like another thing: I'm sure you've seen where people got frosted at Baltimore's Mayor because she called the people actually directly involved in the looting "thugs." Because I'm ill I've been in bed watching TV all day and I saw a number of people, both talking heads and community members in on the street interviews, criticizing calling the looters "thugs" and in some cases making excuses for them.

I guess that kind of explains why leaders won't say anything about the culture involved being a factor in the problem. But good GRIEF can't SOMEBODY muster some gonads?

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Chizzang wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:And these young White people that show up to march in stuff like this make me want to puke. What a bunch of dumbasses. If they'd have walked down the street in the community they're marching in support of right now a month ago at midnight dressed like they had money with rolex watches on there's a good chance they'd have gotten mugged. Maybe even killed. There are a lot of people in that community who would just as soon beat the crap out of them as look at them. Idiots.

What percentage john, would you say of black people are muggers and thieves...

Well from the FBIs website i would say 68% of the 13%

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
What percentage john, would you say of black people are muggers and thieves...

Well from the FBIs website i would say 68% of the 13%

Yea-yah.

An' da' uttah haff uv dem be hoze.