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William Lane Craig

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:29 pm
by SeattleGriz
Anyone ever listen to this guy debate? Taken from Wikipedia:
William Lane Craig /kreɪɡ/ (born August 23, 1949) is an American analytical philosopher,theologian, and Christian apologist. Craig's philosophical work focuses primarily on philosophy of religion, but also on metaphysics and philosophy of time. His theological interests are in historical Jesus studies and philosophical theology. He is known for his debates on theology with public figures such as Christopher Hitchens and Lawrence Krauss.
If you are interested in some great debates, he surely has been involved in them. Guy is a machine. He debates some pretty big atheism names.

Re: William Lane Craig

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:19 pm
by SuperHornet
Never heard of him. I know of a couple of others that do this, but I've never heard of this guy....

Re: William Lane Craig

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:02 am
by kalm
I haven't, but I did read this article:
Atheists 'have higher IQs': Their intelligence 'makes them more likely to dismiss religion as irrational and unscientific'
Research found those with higher IQs more likely to dismiss religion
Another drawback to being religious, or at least Christian is losing out on top jobs


The conclusions were the result of a review of 63 scientific studies about religion and intelligence dating between 1928 and last year.

The University of Rochester psychologists behind the study defined religion as involvement in some or all parts of a belief.
They defined intelligence as the ‘ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly, and learn from experience’.

In their conclusions, they said: ‘Most extant explanations (of a negative relation) share one central theme - the premise that religious beliefs are irrational, not anchored in science, not testable and, therefore, unappealing to intelligent people who ‘know better’.

‘Intelligent people typically spend more time in school - a form of self-regulation that may yield long-term benefits.




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Re: William Lane Craig

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:46 am
by Chizzang
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Re: William Lane Craig

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:54 pm
by SeattleGriz
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While I know you are not big on organized religion, or an atheist, I thought you would enjoy his debate with Sam Harris.

Re: William Lane Craig

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:45 pm
by Pwns
kalm wrote:I haven't, but I did read this article:
Atheists 'have higher IQs': Their intelligence 'makes them more likely to dismiss religion as irrational and unscientific'
Research found those with higher IQs more likely to dismiss religion
Another drawback to being religious, or at least Christian is losing out on top jobs


The conclusions were the result of a review of 63 scientific studies about religion and intelligence dating between 1928 and last year.

The University of Rochester psychologists behind the study defined religion as involvement in some or all parts of a belief.
They defined intelligence as the ‘ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly, and learn from experience’.

In their conclusions, they said: ‘Most extant explanations (of a negative relation) share one central theme - the premise that religious beliefs are irrational, not anchored in science, not testable and, therefore, unappealing to intelligent people who ‘know better’.

‘Intelligent people typically spend more time in school - a form of self-regulation that may yield long-term benefits.




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Of course. That must be why the reason rally was lilly-white.

The more evolved races have higher IQ and thus more atheists.

Re: William Lane Craig

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:50 pm
by kalm
Pwns wrote:
kalm wrote:I haven't, but I did read this article:







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Of course. That must be why the reason rally was lilly-white.

The more evolved races have higher IQ and thus more atheists.
Who said anything about race? :suspicious:

We're theists banned from the Reason Rally? :suspicious: :suspicious:

Re: William Lane Craig

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:31 pm
by Chizzang
kalm wrote:
Pwns wrote:
Of course. That must be why the reason rally was lilly-white.

The more evolved races have higher IQ and thus more atheists.
Who said anything about race? :suspicious:

We're theists banned from the Reason Rally? :suspicious: :suspicious:
Pwns drops in more random irrelevant comments than Foster Brooks at a Don Rickles celebrity roast...

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Re: William Lane Craig

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:28 am
by Pwns
Let me explain it more explicitly...

You are pointing out better performance by atheists on IQ tests that also show gaps in intelligence (for whatever reason) between races. Just something to be aware of when you accept the validity of psychometric tests as valid for comparing groups X and Y.

Re: William Lane Craig

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:42 am
by andy7171
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Re: William Lane Craig

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:30 am
by kalm
Chizzang wrote:
kalm wrote:
Who said anything about race? :suspicious:

We're theists banned from the Reason Rally? :suspicious: :suspicious:
Pwns drops in more random irrelevant comments than Foster Brooks at a Don Rickles celebrity roast...

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Re: William Lane Craig

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:40 am
by Chizzang
Pwns wrote:Let me explain it more explicitly...

You are pointing out better performance by atheists on IQ tests that also show gaps in intelligence (for whatever reason) between races. Just something to be aware of when you accept the validity of psychometric tests as valid for comparing groups X and Y.
Okee Dokee
I don't really need a study to help me understand what I see almost daily
But thanks for the heads-up I'll be more careful about accepting the validity of psychometric tests

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Re: William Lane Craig

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:18 am
by CID1990
Chizzang wrote: I don't really need a study to help me understand what I see almost daily
That's kind of how I feel about all the police experts on this board

welcome to my world

Re: William Lane Craig

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:41 am
by kalm
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Re: William Lane Craig

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:54 am
by Chizzang
CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote: I don't really need a study to help me understand what I see almost daily
That's kind of how I feel about all the police experts on this board

welcome to my world


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