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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good read.

Charles Krauthammer disagrees with the President. Stop the presses.



This is the end of western civilization as we know it.

"Iraq is Hitlerian Germany, a truly mad police state with external ambitions and a menacing arsenal."

- Charles Krauthammer

I actually like Chuck, but he's about as trust worthy in his middle east predictions as Bibi.

Here's another interesting read. From the standpoint of a threat to US security, which has proven to be more dangerous, Sunnis or Shiites?

https://consortiumnews.com/2015/04/09/h ... an-threat/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The article asks some questions like this "With sanctions lifted, its economy booming and tens of billions injected into its treasury, why would Iran curb rather than expand its relentless drive for regional dominance?"

and my only thought is: "Yeah... so what"
Why are we supposed to manage Iranian National ambitions..?

This whole thing doesn't pass the sniff test
Russia has insane ambitions / As does China / as does North Korea
as does every other major mover on the global scene

BFD... is all I can muster up

And here is a more moderate perspective from Steve Chapman ...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... olumn.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

UNI88 wrote:And here is a more moderate perspective from Steve Chapman ...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... olumn.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Chapman was in my Harvard class. A fire-breathing conservative at the time who sought to purge the Harvard Republican Club of moderates. Now he's "grown" and "evolved." Total pussy.

Ivytalk wrote:

UNI88 wrote:And here is a more moderate perspective from Steve Chapman ...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... olumn.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Chapman was in my Harvard class. A fire-breathing conservative at the time who sought to purge the Harvard Republican Club of moderates. Now he's "grown" and "evolved." Total pussy.

Hmmm. Maybe I'll start reading him...

kalm wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:
Chapman was in my Harvard class. A fire-breathing conservative at the time who sought to purge the Harvard Republican Club of moderates. Now he's "grown" and "evolved." Total pussy.

Hmmm. Maybe I'll start reading him...

Read away. He just wanted to get laid by Wellesley chicks.

Ivytalk wrote:

kalm wrote:
Hmmm. Maybe I'll start reading him...

Read away. He just wanted to get laid by Wellesley chicks.

You say that like its a bad thing..

Ivytalk wrote:

kalm wrote:
Hmmm. Maybe I'll start reading him...

Read away. He just wanted to get laid by Wellesley chicks.

Is that some sort of burn? Seriously asking...

kalm wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:
Read away. He just wanted to get laid by Wellesley chicks.

Is that some sort of burn? Seriously asking...

Hillary graduated about 7 years ahead of us. No question of boinking.

Chizzang wrote:The article asks some questions like this "With sanctions lifted, its economy booming and tens of billions injected into its treasury, why would Iran curb rather than expand its relentless drive for regional dominance?"

and my only thought is: "Yeah... so what"
Why are we supposed to manage Iranian National ambitions..?

This whole thing doesn't pass the sniff test
Russia has insane ambitions / As does China / as does North Korea
as does every other major mover on the global scene

BFD... is all I can muster up

Well for one thing one of their top exports are murderous terrorists. That might be a good thing to stifle.

So if the answer is no deal, doesn't that lead to the shortest path of Iran getting nukes? With no deal, what prevents Iran getting nukes? Don't kid yourselves that we're going to do military strikes against Iran.

What's the solution?

andy7171 wrote:

Chizzang wrote:The article asks some questions like this "With sanctions lifted, its economy booming and tens of billions injected into its treasury, why would Iran curb rather than expand its relentless drive for regional dominance?"

and my only thought is: "Yeah... so what"
Why are we supposed to manage Iranian National ambitions..?

This whole thing doesn't pass the sniff test
Russia has insane ambitions / As does China / as does North Korea
as does every other major mover on the global scene

BFD... is all I can muster up

Well for one thing one of their top exports are murderous terrorists. That might be a good thing to stifle.

Really..?
They might say the same about us - and who's curbing our global ambitions..?
This whole thing is just an elaborate dinner date for a future war

and we've seen it all before

Chizzang wrote:

andy7171 wrote:
Well for one thing one of their top exports are murderous terrorists. That might be a good thing to stifle.

Really..?
They might say the same about us - and who's curbing our global ambitions..?
This whole thing is just an elaborate dinner date for a future war

and we've seen it all before

I wonder when Andy will want to bomb Saudi Arabia?

As soon as he can find it on a map.

Grizalltheway wrote:As soon as he can find it on a map.

KAAABOOOOOOOOM!

Chizzang wrote:

andy7171 wrote:
Well for one thing one of their top exports are murderous terrorists. That might be a good thing to stifle.

Really..?
They might say the same about us - and who's curbing our global ambitions..?
This whole thing is just an elaborate dinner date for a future war

and we've seen it all before

What are our global ambitions?

Baldy wrote:

Chizzang wrote: Really..?
They might say the same about us - and who's curbing our global ambitions..?
This whole thing is just an elaborate dinner date for a future war

and we've seen it all before

What are our global ambitions?

To be greeted as Liberators...

No deal = sanctions stay in place

Chizzang wrote:

Baldy wrote: What are our global ambitions?

To be greeted as Liberators...

Been there, done that.

Chizzang wrote:

Baldy wrote: What are our global ambitions?

To be greeted as Liberators...

Wait wut

You started so strong and then <POW>

Klam-esque non substantive bail

CID1990 wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
To be greeted as Liberators...

Wait wut

You started so strong and then <POW>

Klam-esque non substantive bail

Based on Baldy's "play dumb" question - I thought that was how we were going to do this...

American-Israeli-Saudi state-run media propaganda machine at work...

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015 ... ver-heard/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Chizzang wrote:

CID1990 wrote:

Wait wut

You started so strong and then <POW>

Klam-esque non substantive bail

Based on Baldy's "play dumb" question - I thought that was how we were going to do this...

Bail...deflect. Whatever floats your boat.

The question, however, is still valid. Our "global ambitions"? Whatever those are.
Of course as we have seen, you don't have to answer.