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There are two different sides to human nature. Both are important, but the balance between them has huge implications for our wellbeing, culture and future.

One side of our nature is self-interested. This is our in-built instinct to do whatever we can to survive and thrive, often at the expense of others. The other side is co-operative and leads us to help others even when there is no direct benefit for ourselves.

Although Charles Darwin is normally associated with the “survival of the fittest” theory, he also believed that our natural instinct was to care for others. In The Descent of Man he wrote that the communities most likely to flourish were “those with the most sympathetic members”, an observation backed up by research that we are wired to care about each other……..

In workplaces, research from Adam Grant, professor of management at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School shows that “givers” - people who help others without seeking anything in return - are more successful in the long term than “takers” - who try to maximise benefits for themselves, rather than others……..

Secondly, it links to the growing body of evidence including a recent paper from the University of Warwick that shows when people feel happier and more connected they are more productive at work. Dr Teresa Belton, researcher and visiting fellow at the University of East Anglia, has also shown it leads people to behave in more environmentally sustainable ways.

andy7171 wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:I think for many there's a point where your income is at a level where your basic needs are met, you can put money away for a rainy day, do some traveling, have enough on hand to dabble in some interests (think fishing, motorcycles, stamp collecting, whatever) and are generally satisfied with where you're at. Past that point IMO it becomes something about giving back and helping those who TRY but aren't able to meet those basic subsistence needs.

My first business class was a management class where we studied Maslow's hierarchy of needs and I've remembered it all these years later which basically summarizes what I noted above.

Bob Marley wrote:“Money is numbers and numbers never end. If it takes money to be happy, your search for happiness will never end.”

kalm wrote:

andy7171 wrote:

What does the Colorado River flow into?

A). The Salton Sea
B). The Sacramento Delta
C). The Central Valley
D). The Gulf of Mexico

kalm wrote:

andy7171 wrote:

What does the Colorado River flow into?

A). The Salton Sea
B). The Sacramento Delta
C). The Central Valley
D). The Gulf of Mexico

kalm wrote:

andy7171 wrote:

What does the Colorado River flow into?

A). The Salton Sea
B). The Sacramento Delta
C). The Central Valley
D). The Gulf of Mexico

ASUG8 wrote:I think for many there's a point where your income is at a level where your basic needs are met, you can put money away for a rainy day, do some traveling, have enough on hand to dabble in some interests (think fishing, motorcycles, stamp collecting, whatever) and are generally satisfied with where you're at. Past that point IMO it becomes something about giving back and helping those who TRY but aren't able to meet those basic subsistence needs.

My first business class was a management class where we studied Maslow's hierarchy of needs and I've remembered it all these years later which basically summarizes what I noted above.

JohnStOnge wrote:What a bunch of goobledegook. Since the picture at the top of the googeldegook article is a couple of monkeys cuddling I looked up a Youtube video on the way monkey society works. This is a bit long (almost 15 minutes) but it's reality if you want to watch it:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8_zVRC5AaI[/youtube]

CID1990 wrote:Klam, you are a terrible troll

See JSO's post above for an example of someone who is doing it right

In the heart of Africa, in a swamp forest near Lake Tumba in the Congo, a frolicking species of ape called the bonobo has long upset the Frazetta picture of our past. These apes, who, along with chimpanzees, share up to 98 percent of our DNA, confounded the first primatologists who observed them. Over time, they have created a colony far different from that of their intensely competitive, often violent, chimpanzee cousins. Bonobo society is based on cooperation and empathy; the culture is a matriarchy where competition is redirected into a communitarian sexual appetite. Bonobos also shocked these earliest scientists because they possessed a cheerful sense of general promiscuity, weaving wanton sex into their society, and they boasted a sexual repertoire once thought to be the exclusive property of Homo sapiens—deep kissing, foreplay, oral sex, homosexuality, and polyamory.

kalm wrote:

CID1990 wrote:Klam, you are a terrible troll

See JSO's post above for an example of someone who is doing it right

1) I've said many times that JSO is one of my favorite trolls

2) See SE's reply.

3) JSO gives you macaques, I'll give you an even closer relative:

In the heart of Africa, in a swamp forest near Lake Tumba in the Congo, a frolicking species of ape called the bonobo has long upset the Frazetta picture of our past. These apes, who, along with chimpanzees, share up to 98 percent of our DNA, confounded the first primatologists who observed them. Over time, they have created a colony far different from that of their intensely competitive, often violent, chimpanzee cousins. Bonobo society is based on cooperation and empathy; the culture is a matriarchy where competition is redirected into a communitarian sexual appetite. Bonobos also shocked these earliest scientists because they possessed a cheerful sense of general promiscuity, weaving wanton sex into their society, and they boasted a sexual repertoire once thought to be the exclusive property of Homo sapiens—deep kissing, foreplay, oral sex, homosexuality, and polyamory.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82GUjPConiE[/youtube]

JSO, both competitive and connective culture exists successfully in other primates as well. Of course the more highly evolved bonobos favor the latter. Since you bring up "reality" please also note that homosexuality is a part of the cooler, freer, hippie love child culture of the bonobos. It's simply natural.

CID1990 wrote:

kalm wrote:
1) I've said many times that JSO is one of my favorite trolls

2) See SE's reply.

3) JSO gives you macaques, I'll give you an even closer relative:



[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82GUjPConiE[/youtube]

JSO, both competitive and connective culture exists successfully in other primates as well. Of course the more highly evolved bonobos favor the latter. Since you bring up "reality" please also note that homosexuality is a part of the cooler, freer, hippie love child culture of the bonobos. It's simply natural.

All I'm saying is you're doing it wrong.

Keep it short, succinct, and self assured

(admittedly JSO usually doesn't follow the first two)

Much data on bonobo social interactions are based on Yerkes National Primate Research Center and San Diego Zoo, two captive colonies.
Both colonies characterized as peaceful, egalitarian, and female dominated.
Stevens et al (2008) caution that all captive bonobos may not share the same behaviors as these two colonies.

JohnStOnge wrote:You know, I'm glad bonobos came up because it caused me to google around and see something I'd never seen before. That something is the idea that what happens with bonobos in the wild may not really be that well known. I found an allusion to that in the information at http://library.sandiegozoo.org/factshee ... bonobo.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; .

A quote:

Much data on bonobo social interactions are based on Yerkes National Primate Research Center and San Diego Zoo, two captive colonies.
Both colonies characterized as peaceful, egalitarian, and female dominated.
Stevens et al (2008) caution that all captive bonobos may not share the same behaviors as these two colonies.

I think it's pretty safet to say that wild populations may not share the same behaviors as "these two colonies."

I'm really glad I found that because the bonobo stuff is used a lot and if what's stated at that page is correct and much of the inference about bonobo behavior is based on captive colonies there is a huge asterisk by everything they say about bonobo behavior and social organization.

Skjellyfetti wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBaoxnZH1Ug[/youtube]