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It's a court ruling that the State must pay for an inmate pervert to get "sex reassignment surgery." We really, really need to do something about our Judiciary.

Another thing: Media people keep encouraging these sickos by going along with calling them what they want to be called. Like the linked story consistently refers to his person as "she." He's not a "she." They can cut his prick off and give him all the hormone injections they want to give him and he will never be a "she." He will be a thoroughly mutilated "he."

Don't get me wrong. If a guy is so sick that he wants to have his prick cut off and he can pay for it himself he should be free to do so. But if he's in prison there's no WAY taxpayers should be forced to pay for his mutilation.

No, regardless of how you feel on the issue, this is not something that should be paid for by taxpayers.

Vidav wrote:No, regardless of how you feel on the issue, this is not something that should be paid for by taxpayers.

Agreed,
and I'll put this right in the lap of the legal system...

OK, so we all agree so far.

But what about D1B?

I disagree, I think we should all pay for little johnny to have his whacked off...

Agree, he should get any surgery he wants and you should pay.

Why stop now

93henfan wrote:OK, so we all agree so far.

But what about D1B?

Oh c'mon. D1B is as masculine as they come. Ok maybe he's a bit a bit abrasive but no WAY he'd be getting a sex change operation.

JohnStOnge wrote:

93henfan wrote:OK, so we all agree so far.

But what about D1B?

Oh c'mon. D1B is as masculine as they come. Ok maybe he's a bit a bit abrasive but no WAY he'd be getting a sex change operation.

Well played...

BTW the other issue here is the way the authors of the story I linked consistently referred to this pervert in a feminine sense. "Her" and "She" and that sort of thing. And I think that is pretty much what the media does with these perverts. Like referring to "Chaz" Bono as "he."

It's ridiculous. The guy in the story is a male. Chastity Bono is a female. The guy in the story is a "he." Chastity Bono is a "she." We need a media that will stop pandering to this perversion.

JohnStOnge wrote:BTW the other issue here is the way the authors of the story I linked consistently referred to this pervert in a feminine sense. "Her" and "She" and that sort of thing. And I think that is pretty much what the media does with these perverts. Like referring to "Chaz" Bono as "he."

It's ridiculous. The guy in the story is a male. Chastity Bono is a female. The guy in the story is a "he." Chastity Bono is a "she." We need a media that will stop pandering to this perversion.

People can be whatever they want to be. Freedom, liberty, and all that stuff...

kalm wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:BTW the other issue here is the way the authors of the story I linked consistently referred to this pervert in a feminine sense. "Her" and "She" and that sort of thing. And I think that is pretty much what the media does with these perverts. Like referring to "Chaz" Bono as "he."

It's ridiculous. The guy in the story is a male. Chastity Bono is a female. The guy in the story is a "he." Chastity Bono is a "she." We need a media that will stop pandering to this perversion.

People can be whatever they want to be. Freedom, liberty, and all that stuff...

Oh come on kalm...!!! get mad

I would guess the vast majority of people think this is absurd for the government to pay for, especially for a convicted criminal in prison. But it is an issue that the gay community has sided on, and we all know we can't cross them publicly. So half the country will side in defending this "right" or remain silent while those on the other side will be vilified publicly.

Ho-hum. I hope he/she enjoys getting railed in his new fake vagina.

andy7171 wrote: I hope he/she enjoys getting railed in his new fake vagina.

It can't be that expensive can it?

I could do it with a steak knife, an ice cream scoop and some sutures.

The big question is…is a sex change a genuine medical need?

I am not convinced that a person with gender identity disorder is really any different than a person that thinks they're fat no matter how bony they get or the chick who is a 6 or 7 who thinks she is a 2. Those people have exactly the same kind of psychological symptoms that a GID person has. Just like a single plastic surgery usually doesn't cure body insecurity, there is also published literature showing sex change operations are only temporary fixes.

JSO, this is an example of egalitarian (if you want to call it that) dogma affecting science.

Pwns wrote:The big question is…is a sex change a genuine medical need?

I am not convinced that a person with gender identity disorder is really any different than a person that thinks they're fat no matter how bony they get or the chick who is a 6 or 7 who thinks she is a 2. Those people have exactly the same kind of psychological symptoms that a GID person has. Just like a single plastic surgery usually doesn't cure body insecurity, there is also published literature showing sex change operations are only temporary fixes.

JSO, this is an example of egalitarian (if you want to call it that) dogma affecting science.

I think that ^ is spot on...
However I do believe that these "folks" were in some way "born in the wrong body" as they explain it
But so was I... I was supposed to be born the future King of England
and there's been a terrible mix-up and nobody seems to give a sh!t about my claim to the throne

(Same / Same)

JohnStOnge wrote:BTW the other issue here is the way the authors of the story I linked consistently referred to this pervert in a feminine sense. "Her" and "She" and that sort of thing. And I think that is pretty much what the media does with these perverts. Like referring to "Chaz" Bono as "he."

It's ridiculous. The guy in the story is a male. Chastity Bono is a female. The guy in the story is a "he." Chastity Bono is a "she." We need a media that will stop pandering to this perversion.

Her cock is bigger than yours according to the postings on the wall of the public restroom.

People can be whatever they want to be.

No, they can't. They should be able to at least TRY to do what they want as long as it's not an attack upon someone else. But they can't be whatever they want. They are what they are. If you are born a male, you cannot be a female. If you are born a female, you cannot be a male.

If you are born a male and want to you can have cosmetic things done to make you appear on the surface to be a female. But you're never going to be a female. That's not a political or philosophical limitation. It's a biological one.

So, yes, if this nut job wants to have his penis lopped off and get hormone injections, etc., at his own expense he should be able to do so. But none of that is going to make him a "she." It's just biological reality. He's a "he." He may be a mutilated "he." But he's a "he" and will always be one.

And the media need to quit flattering the kind of delusion he's suffering from by calling people like him a "she."

houndawg wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:BTW the other issue here is the way the authors of the story I linked consistently referred to this pervert in a feminine sense. "Her" and "She" and that sort of thing. And I think that is pretty much what the media does with these perverts. Like referring to "Chaz" Bono as "he."

It's ridiculous. The guy in the story is a male. Chastity Bono is a female. The guy in the story is a "he." Chastity Bono is a "she." We need a media that will stop pandering to this perversion.

Her cock is bigger than yours according to the postings on the wall of the public restroom.

Well, if you fabricate a "cock," you can make it as big as you want to make it.

JohnStOnge wrote:

houndawg wrote:
Her cock is bigger than yours according to the postings on the wall of the public restroom.

Well, if you fabricate a "cock," you can make it as big as you want to make it.

LMFAO!!!! This post made my night!

JohnStOnge wrote:

People can be whatever they want to be.

No, they can't. They should be able to at least TRY to do what they want as long as it's not an attack upon someone else. But they can't be whatever they want. They are what they are. If you are born a male, you cannot be a female. If you are born a female, you cannot be a male.

If you are born a male and want to you can have cosmetic things done to make you appear on the surface to be a female. But you're never going to be a female. That's not a political or philosophical limitation. It's a biological one.

So, yes, if this nut job wants to have his penis lopped off and get hormone injections, etc., at his own expense he should be able to do so. But none of that is going to make him a "she." It's just biological reality. He's a "he." He may be a mutilated "he." But he's a "he" and will always be one.

And the media need to quit flattering the kind of delusion he's suffering from by calling people like him a "she."

No, really...people can be whatever they want to be and it has nothing to do with you and your libertarian beliefs...

kalm wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
No, they can't. They should be able to at least TRY to do what they want as long as it's not an attack upon someone else. But they can't be whatever they want. They are what they are. If you are born a male, you cannot be a female. If you are born a female, you cannot be a male.

If you are born a male and want to you can have cosmetic things done to make you appear on the surface to be a female. But you're never going to be a female. That's not a political or philosophical limitation. It's a biological one.

So, yes, if this nut job wants to have his penis lopped off and get hormone injections, etc., at his own expense he should be able to do so. But none of that is going to make him a "she." It's just biological reality. He's a "he." He may be a mutilated "he." But he's a "he" and will always be one.

And the media need to quit flattering the kind of delusion he's suffering from by calling people like him a "she."

No, really...people can be whatever they want to be and it has nothing to do with you and your libertarian beliefs...

So if I decided I want to be say black, then I am so?...

kalm wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
No, they can't. They should be able to at least TRY to do what they want as long as it's not an attack upon someone else. But they can't be whatever they want. They are what they are. If you are born a male, you cannot be a female. If you are born a female, you cannot be a male.

If you are born a male and want to you can have cosmetic things done to make you appear on the surface to be a female. But you're never going to be a female. That's not a political or philosophical limitation. It's a biological one.

So, yes, if this nut job wants to have his penis lopped off and get hormone injections, etc., at his own expense he should be able to do so. But none of that is going to make him a "she." It's just biological reality. He's a "he." He may be a mutilated "he." But he's a "he" and will always be one.

And the media need to quit flattering the kind of delusion he's suffering from by calling people like him a "she."

No, really...people can be whatever they want to be and it has nothing to do with you and your libertarian beliefs...

Honestly, I'm with JSO on this. Chastity Bono is a chick. I will never refer to her as "he", no matter what she does with her twat.

Same deal with Bruce Jenner. I'm not sure what has to happen in your life to make you go from Olympic gold medal decathalete to Lola, but you're still a dude, even when you get sick enough to have your dick cut off and breast implants put in. I'll never call Bruce Jenner "she".

93henfan wrote:

kalm wrote:
No, really...people can be whatever they want to be and it has nothing to do with you and your libertarian beliefs...

Honestly, I'm with JSO on this. Chastity Bono is a chick. I will never refer to her as "he", no matter what she does with her twat.

Same deal with Bruce Jenner. I'm not sure what has to happen in your life to make you go from Olympic gold medal decathalete to Lola, but you're still a dude, even when you get sick enough to have your dick cut off and breast implants put in. I'll never call Bruce Jenner "she".

And you don't have to. That's your choice. Just like their identity is their choice. As long as JSO's thought police don't take over.

BDKJMU wrote:

kalm wrote:
No, really...people can be whatever they want to be and it has nothing to do with you and your libertarian beliefs...

So if I decided I want to be say black, then I am so?...

Calm down, Bieber.

What close-minded fucks like JSO either don't want to or can't recognize, is that "biological male/female" doesn't relate just to reproductive organs, but the chemical makeup of the brain, which is a huge factor in how people identify themselves and which gender they're attracted to.