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http://news.yahoo.com/robert-schuller-c ... NlYwNzYw--

A Christian leader, most famous for founding the Crystal Cathedral, southern California's iconic religious center, as well as his noteworthy position as trusted adviser to numerous presidents.

The bankrupt guy?

dbackjon wrote:The bankrupt guy?

Morally or financially? I'm guessing morally.

Hour of Power! Muthafukkaz!

travelinman67 wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/robert-schuller-c ... NlYwNzYw--

A Christian leader, most famous for founding the Crystal Cathedral, southern California's iconic religious center, as well as his noteworthy position as trusted adviser to numerous presidents.

Never heard of him.

Sounds like a garden variety tax dodge scam.

houndawg wrote:

travelinman67 wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/robert-schuller-c ... NlYwNzYw--

A Christian leader, most famous for founding the Crystal Cathedral, southern California's iconic religious center, as well as his noteworthy position as trusted adviser to numerous presidents.

Never heard of him.

It's pretty obvious you haven't...

...He was a respected mentor to millions.

He'd have had more credibility if he'd been a little less flashy. I mean even building something like the "Crystal Cathedral" raises questions.

JohnStOnge wrote:He'd have had more credibility if he'd been a little less flashy. I mean even building something like the "Crystal Cathedral" raises questions.

Valid "optics" issue. In reality, it was just a glass/metal structure. Many of the Christian stadiums in Texas cost much more. Schuller was a "common persons" ministry, hence his motto, "Come as you are in the family car."

The church's financial problems emanated from a drastic decrease in donations following the 2008 collapse, not from mismanagement. Remember, their membership was middle-class SoCal, not Fairfax,VA.

travelinman67 wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:He'd have had more credibility if he'd been a little less flashy. I mean even building something like the "Crystal Cathedral" raises questions.

Valid "optics" issue. In reality, it was just a glass/metal structure. Many of the Christian stadiums in Texas cost much more. Schuller was a "common persons" ministry, hence his motto, "Come as you are in the family car."

The church's financial problems emanated from a drastic decrease in donations following the 2008 collapse, not from mismanagement. Remember, their membership was middle-class SoCal, not Fairfax,VA.

Garden variety scam to bilk the gullible, just all religions.

He was just another scum bag churcher who's real purpose in life was to bilk the idiots out of their money. In the long run he tried to scam his church for over half a billion for "intellectual" property. The judge saw it different and sent him and his whiney ass family packing. So much for that god angle and just doing good.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/cred ... laims.html

Why are these losers and their sense of entitlement so often found at the head of churches?

houndawg wrote:Why are these losers and their sense of entitlement so often found at the head of churches?

Let me know when you find a pray away the churcher spell...

Hey, pretending you're personal friends with Jesus will get you bank rolled
an uncountable number of buffoons will literally throw money at you
if you spend time pretending that Jesus is your best friend



Like clockwork baby

Its a shame they went bankrupt - For the life of me - I can't figure out how that church goes bankrupt
without massive fraud and thievery (Obviously)

Chizzang wrote:Hey, pretending you're personal friends with Jesus will get you bank rolled
an uncountable number of buffoons will literally throw money at you
if you spend time pretending that Jesus is your best friend



Like clockwork baby

Its a shame they went bankrupt - For the life of me - I can't figure out how that church goes bankrupt
without massive fraud and thievery (Obviously)

Property taxes on the crystal cathedral alone would be thousands per month... oh, wait...

Im perfectly ok with people giving their money to these televangelists.

They're going to give it to SOMEONE goofy, might as well be a harmless pervert with a pulpit

CID1990 wrote:Im perfectly ok with people giving their money to these televangelists.

They're going to give it to SOMEONE goofy, might as well be a harmless pervert with a pulpit

I kinda liked the guy
He was pretty full of himself - but in the most charming way

Lottery tickets and Televangelists Define: Stupid Tax

Chizzang wrote:

CID1990 wrote:Im perfectly ok with people giving their money to these televangelists.

They're going to give it to SOMEONE goofy, might as well be a harmless pervert with a pulpit

I kinda liked the guy
He was pretty full of himself - but in the most charming way

Lottery tickets and Televangelists Define: Stupid Tax

Except the proceeds from lottery tickets actually end up in the public coffers. Church donations go toward shit like this:

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JohnStOnge wrote:He'd have had more credibility if he'd been a little less flashy. I mean even building something like the "Crystal Cathedral" raises questions.

Spot on. All of those mega church people like Osteen are fakes. Scheming, cheating, predatory fakes.

Ibanez wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:He'd have had more credibility if he'd been a little less flashy. I mean even building something like the "Crystal Cathedral" raises questions.

Spot on. All of those mega church people like Osteen are fakes. Scheming, cheating, predatory fakes.

No....
Christianity is all bout Jesus
(ask anybody on this forum)