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Now they want...

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:25 pm
by kalm
(Stealing from Polon's Churcher crusade)…


To make the bible the official state book:
Critics of the bill say it violates the Tennessee Constitution and the U.S. Constitution. Article I of the Tennessee Constitution states that “no preference shall ever be given, by law, to any religious establishment or mode of worship.”

But state Sen. Steve Southerland (R-Morristown), who introduced the Senate version of the bill, insisted the proposed legislation wasn’t intended to promote Christianity.

“It is not my intent in bringing this legislation to cultivate adherence to religious (practices) or aid in religious devotion,” Southerland told the Senate State and Local Government Committee. “Simply, my purpose in bringing this legislation is to memorialize the role the book has played on Tennessee history.”
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/po ... /70719674/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And to remove perfectly normal displays of sexual orientation from high schools:
A bulletin board promoting transgender equality was removed by school officials in Marshall, Michigan in what some students are calling an attempt to silence them, WWMT reports.

According to members of the Gay Straight Alliance — who created the bulletin board to celebrate Transgender Visibility Day — the district removed it not because of a two-week limit on bulletin board space, but because a group of parents on Facebook complained about its content.


Kate Samra, the President of the Gay Straight Alliance, told WWMT that “this was surrounding a Facebook incident surrounding a mother that was very upset. She thought it was inappropriate for the school setting and that it didn’t exhibit Christian values.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/mich ... -facebook/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Churchers are on the march... :ohno:

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:08 am
by ASUG8
Meanwhile, another day at the office for the "religion of peace".
At 6:30 a.m. ET, some 535 students of the 815 believed to be at the university had yet to be accounted for, according to a tweet sent by the country's National Disaster Operation Center. It cited Kenya's interior minister.

Collins Wetangula, the vice chairman of the student union, said he was preparing to take a shower when he heard gunshots.

When the gunmen arrived at his dormitory he could hear them opening doors and asking if the people who had hidden inside whether they were Muslims or Christians. "If you were a Christian you were shot on the spot," Wetangula told The Associated Press. "With each blast of the gun I thought I was going to die."
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/kenya ... om-n334386" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:13 am
by YoUDeeMan
Thanks Obama!

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:12 am
by Chizzang
As I have already been shouted down for pointing out...
The Religious Right Wing would turn this country into a Christian version of Saudi Arabia
if left to their own devices for a long enough period

:nod:

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:22 am
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:As I have already been shouted down for pointing out...
The Religious Right Wing would turn this country into a Christian version of Saudi Arabia
if left to their own devices for a long enough period

:nod:
No more so than the fundamentalist left wing would turn this country into an atheist version of North Korea.

Fortunately for all of us, the relatively "sane" 70% in the middle prevent either scenario from happening.

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:29 am
by Chizzang
AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:As I have already been shouted down for pointing out...
The Religious Right Wing would turn this country into a Christian version of Saudi Arabia
if left to their own devices for a long enough period

:nod:
No more so than the fundamentalist left wing would turn this country into an atheist version of North Korea.

Fortunately for all of us, the relatively "sane" 70% in the middle prevent either scenario from happening.
I look forward to your examples... to defend your point (take your time)
:notworthy:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91wwMVyzqSA[/youtube]

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:58 am
by 89Hen
Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
No more so than the fundamentalist left wing would turn this country into an atheist version of North Korea.

Fortunately for all of us, the relatively "sane" 70% in the middle prevent either scenario from happening.
I look forward to your examples... to defend your point (take your time)
:notworthy:
Didn't realize you held the monopoly on hyperbole.

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:06 am
by Chizzang
89Hen wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
I look forward to your examples... to defend your point (take your time)
:notworthy:
Didn't realize you held the monopoly on hyperbole.
I would expect you to defend your buddies
like clock work

The Koran is the "State Book" of Saudi Arabia
and pretty soon the Bible will be the "State Book" of Tennessee
that and the thinly disguised "religious Freedom Act"

we're well on our way.... Exciting times for Christians everywhere

:rofl:

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:24 am
by 89Hen
Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote: Didn't realize you held the monopoly on hyperbole.
I would expect you to defend your buddies
like clock work

The Koran is the "State Book" of Saudi Arabia
and pretty soon the Bible will be the "State Book" of Tennessee
that and the thinly disguised "religious Freedom Act"

we're well on our way.... Exciting times for Christians everywhere

:rofl:
:lol: :roll: Where's that drama queen tag you love to throw around?

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:25 am
by Chizzang
89Hen wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
I would expect you to defend your buddies
like clock work

The Koran is the "State Book" of Saudi Arabia
and pretty soon the Bible will be the "State Book" of Tennessee
that and the thinly disguised "religious Freedom Act"

we're well on our way.... Exciting times for Christians everywhere

:rofl:
:lol: :roll: Where's that drama queen tag you love to throw around?
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Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:27 am
by Skjellyfetti
AZGrizFan wrote: No more so than the fundamentalist left wing would turn this country into an atheist version of North Korea.

Fortunately for all of us, the relatively "sane" 70% in the middle prevent either scenario from happening.
We agree for once. :thumb:

Fundamentalist atheists are as obnoxious and as self-righteous as fundamentalist Christians.

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:35 am
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote: Didn't realize you held the monopoly on hyperbole.
I would expect you to defend your buddies
like clock work

The Koran is the "State Book" of Saudi Arabia
and pretty soon the Bible will be the "State Book" of Tennessee
that and the thinly disguised "religious Freedom Act"

we're well on our way.... Exciting times for Christians everywhere

:rofl:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Comparing what's happening in Tennessee with what's happened in the Middle East is retarded and trollish, even for you.

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:39 am
by Chizzang
AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
I would expect you to defend your buddies
like clock work

The Koran is the "State Book" of Saudi Arabia
and pretty soon the Bible will be the "State Book" of Tennessee
that and the thinly disguised "religious Freedom Act"

we're well on our way.... Exciting times for Christians everywhere

:rofl:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Comparing what's happening in Tennessee with what's happened in the Middle East is retarded and trollish, even for you.
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Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:13 am
by Baldy
Chizzang wrote:As I have already been shouted down for pointing out...
The Religious Right Wing would turn this country into a Christian version of Saudi Arabia
if left to their own devices for a long enough period

:nod:
These stories are 10X less relevant that the "teachers" getting busted for Racketeering, but you get the vapors over it? :lol:

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:53 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
ASUG8 wrote:Meanwhile, another day at the office for the "religion of peace".
At 6:30 a.m. ET, some 535 students of the 815 believed to be at the university had yet to be accounted for, according to a tweet sent by the country's National Disaster Operation Center. It cited Kenya's interior minister.

Collins Wetangula, the vice chairman of the student union, said he was preparing to take a shower when he heard gunshots.

When the gunmen arrived at his dormitory he could hear them opening doors and asking if the people who had hidden inside whether they were Muslims or Christians. "If you were a Christian you were shot on the spot," Wetangula told The Associated Press. "With each blast of the gun I thought I was going to die."
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/kenya ... om-n334386" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
After the third execution anyone with a brain would have been Muslim....................they got what they deserved for being unarmed and answering in stupid fashion.

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:54 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Chizzang wrote:As I have already been shouted down for pointing out...
The Religious Right Wing would turn this country into a Christian version of Saudi Arabia
if left to their own devices for a long enough period

:nod:
So


There would be worse places to live.

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:23 pm
by Chizzang
Baldy wrote:
Chizzang wrote:As I have already been shouted down for pointing out...
The Religious Right Wing would turn this country into a Christian version of Saudi Arabia
if left to their own devices for a long enough period

:nod:
These stories are 10X less relevant that the "teachers" getting busted for Racketeering, but you get the vapors over it? :lol:
Meh...
vapors shcmapers
and who's surprised by a bunch of teachers figuring out how to "game the system" like Wall Street..?
Like I said - sure its funny - and the "system" will certainly deal with them far more harshly than any banker

:rofl:
but lets wait till the teachers topple the global economy before we get too worked up

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:30 pm
by 89Hen
Chizzang wrote:and the "system" will certainly deal with them far more harshly than any banker
You are just full of hyperbole today, aren't you? :lol:

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:33 pm
by Chizzang
89Hen wrote:
Chizzang wrote:and the "system" will certainly deal with them far more harshly than any banker
You are just full of hyperbole today, aren't you? :lol:
Love her...

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Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:36 pm
by Grizalltheway
Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote: You are just full of hyperbole today, aren't you? :lol:
Love her...

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Former UM track star. :nod: :thumb:

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:55 pm
by JohnStOnge
Actually, there is nothing in the Constitution saying that States can't have State Churches, adopt the Bible as the official State book, etc. In fact, a number of States had official State Churches for decades after the Constitution was ratified.

I realize that's dangerous as the Constitution also does not say that States can't prohibit the free exercise of religion. The First Amendment specifically refers to what the Congress of the United States can and can't do. But it is what is is.

If you just read the national Constitution you're not going to find anything saying it prohibits what Tennessee what's to do in this case. That's not to say that the Judiciary wouldn't invent a Constitutional prohibition that's not really in the Constitution. It does that all the time. Also Constitutional requirements that aren't really in the Constitution.

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:48 am
by andy7171
Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote: Didn't realize you held the monopoly on hyperbole.
I would expect you to defend your buddies
like clock work

The Koran is the "State Book" of Saudi Arabia
and pretty soon the Bible will be the "State Book" of Tennessee
that and the thinly disguised "religious Freedom Act"

we're well on our way.... Exciting times for Christians everywhere

:rofl:
Yep. Especially for the Christians in Africa and the Middle East! Whoo-hoo!

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:57 am
by houndawg
andy7171 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
I would expect you to defend your buddies
like clock work

The Koran is the "State Book" of Saudi Arabia
and pretty soon the Bible will be the "State Book" of Tennessee
that and the thinly disguised "religious Freedom Act"

we're well on our way.... Exciting times for Christians everywhere

:rofl:
Yep. Especially for the Christians in Africa and the Middle East! Whoo-hoo!
Helps bolster their persecution complex. :thumb:

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:01 am
by kalm
JohnStOnge wrote:Actually, there is nothing in the Constitution saying that States can't have State Churches, adopt the Bible as the official State book, etc. In fact, a number of States had official State Churches for decades after the Constitution was ratified.

I realize that's dangerous as the Constitution also does not say that States can't prohibit the free exercise of religion. The First Amendment specifically refers to what the Congress of the United States can and can't do. But it is what is is.

If you just read the national Constitution you're not going to find anything saying it prohibits what Tennessee what's to do in this case. That's not to say that the Judiciary wouldn't invent a Constitutional prohibition that's not really in the Constitution. It does that all the time. Also Constitutional requirements that aren't really in the Constitution.
So the first amendment is a state's rights issue and that's why the first amendment doesn't apply?

Tennessee Constitution:
Text of Section 3:

That all men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their own conscience; that no man can of right be compelled to attend, erect, or support any place of worship, or to maintain any minister against his consent; that no human authority can, in any case whatever, control or interfere with the rights of conscience; and that no preference shall ever be given, by law, to any religious establishment or mode of worship.

Re: Now they want...

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:18 am
by CID1990
Chizzang wrote:As I have already been shouted down for pointing out...
The Religious Right Wing would turn this country into a Christian version of Saudi Arabia
if left to their own devices for a long enough period

:nod:
doubtful

unless liberals destroy the country and then something more religious emerges from the ashes

dont worry though- with all the Catholics we are importing from South O The Border our religious state will have free fvcking bingo every Sat nite