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If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck...it's a duck.New Scandals And Reasons To Wonder If Hillary Was Hiding Something And Why.
By Eugene Robinson Opinion writer
March 9 at 8:25 PM
The Hillary Clinton e-mail controversyis a reminder of one inescapable fact: She comes with baggage. Not the kind that fits in the overhead bin, either. I’m talking steamer trunks.
How could anyone serve four years as secretary of state with no official e-mail account, instead conducting business from a private address with its own domain and server?
The answer is: Deliberately.
The only reason for Clinton to go through the trouble of setting up this system — rather than just call the State Department’s version of the IT help desk — would be to ensure that nobody got to rummage freely through her communications, personal or official. She must have wanted to be able to decide which e-mails would become part of the historical record and which wouldn’t.
With Clinton widely expected to run for president, the e-mail flap projects the sense that she considers herself both embattled and entitled. In the end, I’m not convinced that voters will necessarily care how Clinton’s electronic communications were routed. But they may well ask themselves whether they’re ready for the dynasty and the drama.Clinton has known at least since August that her exclusive use of a private e-mail account had the makings of a potential scandal, were it to come to light. She says she has turned over 55,000 pages of e-mails to the State Department to be archived. But she is asking everyone to take her word that the rest of her e-mail correspondence — and we have no idea how voluminous it might be — is personal and therefore off-limits.White House: Obama, Clinton e-mailed with her personal account.
Press secretary Josh Earnest said that President Obama and Hillary Clinton e-mailed during her years as secretary of state, probably with her personal account. Republicans on the House committee examining Benghazi appear set to spend months chasing their tails. The State Department has given about 300 of Clinton’s e-mails to the committee, and the panel’s chairman, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) said Sunday that “there are gaps of months and months and months.” He mentioned a day in 2011 when Clinton, on a trip to Libya, was photographed using her BlackBerry. Yet, Gowdy said, “We have no e-mails from that day. In fact, we have no e-mails from that trip.”
If this whole thing becomes just another flare-up in the GOP’s Benghazi obsession, Clinton should be relieved. The name Benghazi may be great for fundraising and rallying the Republican faithful, but the tragedy itself has been investigated with a magnifying glass and a fine-toothed comb. There is no there there.
Clinton should be happy having Gowdy and his committee go back over this well-plowed ground — rather than, say, conduct a broader examination of U.S. policy in Libya, where an intervention described as “leading from behind,” with inconsistent follow-up, left chaos and a new branch of the Islamic State.
From Clinton’s point of view, Benghazi fever would certainly be preferable to a careful examination of those e-mails for any light they might shed on the fundraising practices of the Clinton Foundation. The huge nonprofit — now officially called the Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation — announced it would not accept new donations from foreign governments while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state but began taking them again when she stepped down.""
Did any such donors receive special access or treatment while Clinton was in office? I’m betting that no evidence of any such thing will be found — at least not in the 55,000 pages that have been turned over.
As for the rest of her e-mail correspondence, we may never know what’s in there. Much of it, I’m sure, is legitimately private and none of our business. Some may fit into a public-private gray area. Some may be about the foundation. All of it, however, is firmly in Clinton’s possession — the e-mail server reportedly sits in one of her homes — and therefore she has the advantage in any fight over disclosure.When Clinton became secretary of state in 2009, she was still recovering from a bruising and unexpected defeat in the Democratic primaries the year before. The prospect of another presidential run must have seemed distant and uninviting, perhaps like spending two years pounding oneself on the head with a hammer. Yet something — some impulse — compelled her to lock down her e-mail communications so they would always remain in her control.State Dept. defends Clinton e-mail account.
State Department deputy spokeswoman Marie Harf denied anything inappropriate occurred after revelations that former secretary of state Hillary Clinton used a private e-mail account for work. (C-SPAN)Long after Republicans punch themselves out over Benghazi, after questions about Clinton Foundation funding are either answered or deemed unanswerable, after Clinton either cruises to the nomination or fools everyone by not running, the mystery will remain: Why does she act as if she has something to hide, even when she doesn’t?
Huh? When have I ever defended Hillary?travelinman67 wrote:
Kalm, Jelly...spin away...
You overestimate the American public.Ibanez wrote:Clinton won't be president. There's so much baggage with her (and not just the ones under her eyes.) This is a stupid story, a non-issue, but it's interesting to watch her squirm and have to face the press over why she didn't use gov't email while the SoS.
Out of curiosity, from the list of likely candidates who is a halfway decent Republican for you?Skjellyfetti wrote:She won't be nominated by the Democrats and she won't be President.
If she's nominated by the Democrats and the Republicans nominate someone halfway decent I'll be voting Republican.
andy7171 wrote:Did I miss something. I can access my work email and personal email on my phone. What was this talk about needing two or three separate devices?
Ditto. She's a corporatist neo-con (thanks Cid), and the worst kind of donk. I just laugh at Benghazification of this.Skjellyfetti wrote:Huh? When have I ever defended Hillary?travelinman67 wrote:
Kalm, Jelly...spin away...
I don't like her at all. I started posting on AGS political board - not arguing with Conks - but, arguing with Travis about Hillary.
Yep, women are stupid they will vote for her because she has a vagina. Hillary could punch 30 million children in the face on a PPV event and ban them from college or having children and woman will flock to the polls to elect a93henfan wrote:You overestimate the American public.Ibanez wrote:Clinton won't be president. There's so much baggage with her (and not just the ones under her eyes.) This is a stupid story, a non-issue, but it's interesting to watch her squirm and have to face the press over why she didn't use gov't email while the SoS.
Hillary will be your next President. Enjoy.
travelinman67 wrote:andy7171 wrote:Did I miss something. I can access my work email and personal email on my phone. What was this talk about needing two or three separate devices?
Shhhhhh!!
Bloggers have already shot holes in her narrative...
...Bill has stated he does not use email...has only sent two, and those while he was POTUS. Hil today said she used.the email to communicate with her husband. Oops!
A Dem strategist tonight made a point of Jeb Bush's use of private email while Governor...
...Super! Hope it disqualifies both Bush AND Clinton!
#Eghazikalm wrote:Ditto. She's a corporatist neo-con (thanks Cid), and the worst kind of donk. I just laugh at Benghazification of this.Skjellyfetti wrote:
Huh? When have I ever defended Hillary?
I don't like her at all. I started posting on AGS political board - not arguing with Conks - but, arguing with Travis about Hillary.
Da war on wimmin continuesALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:travelinman67 wrote:
Shhhhhh!!
Bloggers have already shot holes in her narrative...
...Bill has stated he does not use email...has only sent two, and those while he was POTUS. Hil today said she used.the email to communicate with her husband. Oops!
A Dem strategist tonight made a point of Jeb Bush's use of private email while Governor...
...Super! Hope it disqualifies both Bush AND Clinton!
The media will have this Hillary stuff buried by noon tomorrow nothing sticks and she is allowed to kill people, violate national security and keep on keepin on........this might even help her in the polls.
Funny that you compare it to Benghazi since if it were not for the Benghazi probe we still wouldn't know about Her Royal Highness' latest episode of "rules are for the peasants".kalm wrote:Ditto. She's a corporatist neo-con (thanks Cid), and the worst kind of donk. I just laugh at Benghazification of this.Skjellyfetti wrote:
Huh? When have I ever defended Hillary?
I don't like her at all. I started posting on AGS political board - not arguing with Conks - but, arguing with Travis about Hillary.
I think congress should investigate the shit out of this, Benghazi, and the IRS scandal.CID1990 wrote:Funny that you compare it to Benghazi since if it were not for the Benghazi probe we still wouldn't know about Her Royal Highness' latest episode of "rules are for the peasants".kalm wrote:
Ditto. She's a corporatist neo-con (thanks Cid), and the worst kind of donk. I just laugh at Benghazification of this.
It might in fact be as her apologists say- a nothing burger. But if we are willing to believe that she conducted the business of the State Dept for 4 years without once putting out classified material over an unsecured server...... I have some Nigerian insurance to sell you
BTW- putting classified out in the open like that is a felony.
Benghazification indeed
I feel the same about Redbox users.GannonFan wrote:The thing I get out of this is how old is Hillary? Seriously, what is it with old people and not knowing how to get e-mail, from multiple e-mail accounts, on one phone? I blame Chelsea, the kids are supposed to help their folks with the technology once the parents are old enough that they say stuff like this.
True.GannonFan wrote:The thing I get out of this is how old is Hillary? Seriously, what is it with old people and not knowing how to get e-mail, from multiple e-mail accounts, on one phone? I blame Chelsea, the kids are supposed to help their folks with the technology once the parents are old enough that they say stuff like this.
Her cock is bigger than most dudes...............................DSUrocks07 wrote:Da war on wimmin continuesALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
The media will have this Hillary stuff buried by noon tomorrow nothing sticks and she is allowed to kill people, violate national security and keep on keepin on........this might even help her in the polls.
I know a lot of women, democrat women, who despise her.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Yep, women are stupid they will vote for her because she has a vagina. Hillary could punch 30 million children in the face on a PPV event and ban them from college or having children and woman will flock to the polls to elect a93henfan wrote:
You overestimate the American public.
Hillary will be your next President. Enjoy.
splittail to the white house. If you are going to follow a bitch with another bitch it might as well be Hillary following Obama.
Most of the "men" on the east coast will vote for a woman as well.
I hate this country.