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What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:58 am
by kalm
I know, I know…shocking that a politician is hypocritical but still….

Conks, this is why you should support Paul. :nod:
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush smoked marijuana while in high school, a personal use of the drug that stands in contrast to his later political stance on the plant.

“I drank alcohol and I smoked marijuana when I was at Andover,” Bush, the current Republican frontrunner seeking his party's 2016 presidential nomination, told the Boston Globe as part of a detailed new profile that describes his time at Phillips Academy in Andover, Massachusetts. Both George H.W. Bush, Jeb's father, and George W. Bush, his brother, also attended the prestigious private school.

“It was pretty common," Bush said of his substance use during that time. A former classmate of Bush's, Peter Tibbetts, recalled to the newspaper that the first time he ever smoked marijuana was with Bush, in some woods near their dorm.


“The first time I really got stoned was in Jeb’s room,” Tibbetts told the Globe. “He had a portable stereo with removable speakers. He put on Steppenwolf for me.” :bananahump: Tibbetts was eventually forced to leave the boarding school after being accused of using drugs.

As a politician, Bush has not embraced marijuana. He spent much of his time as Florida governor championing jail instead of treatment for nonviolent drug offenders, and pushed for mandatory prison sentences for drug offenders -- with the exception of his daughter, Noelle, who has struggled with crack cocaine use.

More recently, while acknowledging that states should "have a right" to decide on the legalization of marijuana, Bush publicly opposed an amendment to legalize medical marijuana in Florida.

"Florida leaders and citizens have worked for years to make the Sunshine State a world-class location to start or run a business, a family-friendly destination for tourism and a desirable place to raise a family or retire,” Bush said before the November midterm election. "Allowing large-scale marijuana operations to take root across Florida, under the guise of using it for medicinal purposes, runs counter to all of these efforts."

Reacting to the Globe story, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) blasted Bush over his "hypocrisy" on marijuana.

“You would think he’d have a little more understanding then,” Paul, who may be a rival to Bush in the Republican primary, told The Hill Friday. “He was even opposed to medical marijuana. This is a guy who now admits he smoked marijuana but he wants to put people in jail who do."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/3 ... 85346.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:40 am
by Pwns
Well, at least he's honest about it…I'm sure most of the republican and donk front-runners (especially the older ones) have probably done pot and won't tell while they won't support relaxing the laws. Take Obama as an example.

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:08 am
by ASUG8
This is a little bit of a stretch to say it's even meaningful. I for one did some stupid stuff in high school that I wouldn't do again today, and my stance on it today would seem hypocritical because I now recognize what I did was dangerous/harmful and could have done some real damage to myself and others.

If Jeb was smoking up a storm today while publicly opposing it I could see the hypocrisy a bit more. :twocents:

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:09 am
by Ibanez
kalm wrote:I know, I know…shocking that a politician is hypocritical but still….

Conks, this is why you should support Paul. :nod:
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush smoked marijuana while in high school, a personal use of the drug that stands in contrast to his later political stance on the plant.

“I drank alcohol and I smoked marijuana when I was at Andover,” Bush, the current Republican frontrunner seeking his party's 2016 presidential nomination, told the Boston Globe as part of a detailed new profile that describes his time at Phillips Academy in Andover, Massachusetts. Both George H.W. Bush, Jeb's father, and George W. Bush, his brother, also attended the prestigious private school.

“It was pretty common," Bush said of his substance use during that time. A former classmate of Bush's, Peter Tibbetts, recalled to the newspaper that the first time he ever smoked marijuana was with Bush, in some woods near their dorm.


“The first time I really got stoned was in Jeb’s room,” Tibbetts told the Globe. “He had a portable stereo with removable speakers. He put on Steppenwolf for me.” :bananahump: Tibbetts was eventually forced to leave the boarding school after being accused of using drugs.

As a politician, Bush has not embraced marijuana. He spent much of his time as Florida governor championing jail instead of treatment for nonviolent drug offenders, and pushed for mandatory prison sentences for drug offenders -- with the exception of his daughter, Noelle, who has struggled with crack cocaine use.

More recently, while acknowledging that states should "have a right" to decide on the legalization of marijuana, Bush publicly opposed an amendment to legalize medical marijuana in Florida.

"Florida leaders and citizens have worked for years to make the Sunshine State a world-class location to start or run a business, a family-friendly destination for tourism and a desirable place to raise a family or retire,” Bush said before the November midterm election. "Allowing large-scale marijuana operations to take root across Florida, under the guise of using it for medicinal purposes, runs counter to all of these efforts."

Reacting to the Globe story, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) blasted Bush over his "hypocrisy" on marijuana.

“You would think he’d have a little more understanding then,” Paul, who may be a rival to Bush in the Republican primary, told The Hill Friday. “He was even opposed to medical marijuana. This is a guy who now admits he smoked marijuana but he wants to put people in jail who do."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/3 ... 85346.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But, did he inhale?

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:10 am
by Ibanez
Pwns wrote:Well, at least he's honest about it…I'm sure most of the republican and donk front-runners (especially the older ones) have probably done pot and won't tell while they won't support relaxing the laws. Take Obama as an example.

BOOM!

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:12 am
by travelinman67
HuffPo hit piece on a conk...

...Nice find, UNHKalm! :thumb:

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:33 am
by Ibanez
travelinman67 wrote:HuffPo hit piece on a conk...

...Nice find, UNHKalm! :thumb:


http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/02/02/r ... -drug-laws" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"I think it is hypocritical for very wealthy white people who have all the resources to evade the drug laws to say, 'Oh well.' I mean particularly in Jeb Bush’s case – he’s against even allowing medical marijuana for people who are confined to wheelchairs for multiple sclerosis," Paul said.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... classmates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It isn't a "hit" piece b/c it's from an organization that has a different political ideology than your own.

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:41 am
by kalm
Pwns wrote:Well, at least he's honest about it…I'm sure most of the republican and donk front-runners (especially the older ones) have probably done pot and won't tell while they won't support relaxing the laws. Take Obama as an example.
I've criticized Obama and Holder about their stance on the drug war as any reasonable person should. Like I said in the opening, it's another politician being hypocritical. But I know…Bush did it too!!!

:roll:

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:42 am
by kalm
ASUG8 wrote:This is a little bit of a stretch to say it's even meaningful. I for one did some stupid stuff in high school that I wouldn't do again today, and my stance on it today would seem hypocritical because I now recognize what I did was dangerous/harmful and could have done some real damage to myself and others.

If Jeb was smoking up a storm today while publicly opposing it I could see the hypocrisy a bit more. :twocents:
Fan of the nanny state? :kisswink:

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:49 am
by travelinman67
Ibanez wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:HuffPo hit piece on a conk...

...Nice find, UNHKalm! :thumb:


http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/02/02/r ... -drug-laws" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"I think it is hypocritical for very wealthy white people who have all the resources to evade the drug laws to say, 'Oh well.' I mean particularly in Jeb Bush’s case – he’s against even allowing medical marijuana for people who are confined to wheelchairs for multiple sclerosis," Paul said.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... classmates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It isn't a "hit" piece b/c it's from an organization that has a different political ideology than your own.
Um, yes...it...is. :dunce:

Huffpo won't publish articles critical of Hillary.

Nor, does Kalm post articles critical of Donks, Dbanez.

Fucking man-up, commie!

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:50 am
by Ibanez
kalm wrote:
Pwns wrote:Well, at least he's honest about it…I'm sure most of the republican and donk front-runners (especially the older ones) have probably done pot and won't tell while they won't support relaxing the laws. Take Obama as an example.
I've criticized Obama and Holder about their stance on the drug war as any reasonable person should. Like I said in the opening, it's another politician being hypocritical. But I know…Bush did it too!!!

:roll:
Clinton did it. I thought Bush just did some lines of coke.

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:52 am
by kalm
Ibanez wrote:
kalm wrote:
I've criticized Obama and Holder about their stance on the drug war as any reasonable person should. Like I said in the opening, it's another politician being hypocritical. But I know…Bush did it too!!!

:roll:
Clinton did it. I thought Bush just did some lines of coke.
I was comparing Jeb to Paul. Obama has already been deservedly criticized for this and is not running for president. The "but Bush" line was general smack to a typical Obama defense.

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:58 am
by Ibanez
travelinman67 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:


http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/02/02/r ... -drug-laws" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... classmates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It isn't a "hit" piece b/c it's from an organization that has a different political ideology than your own.
Um, yes...it...is. :dunce:

Huffpo won't publish articles critical of Hillary.

Nor, does Kalm post articles critical of Donks, Dbanez.

Fucking man-up, commie!
It's Ibanez, you illiterate schmuck. Contrary opinions, articles based off of interviews aren't hit pieces. Sounds to me like Conservative news sites are equally at fault because, by your logic, they won't publish an article critical of the Republicans in power. :dunce:

Hypocrite.

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:00 am
by kalm
Ibanez wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
Um, yes...it...is. :dunce:

Huffpo won't publish articles critical of Hillary.

Nor, does Kalm post articles critical of Donks, Dbanez.

Fucking man-up, commie!
It's Ibanez, you illiterate schmuck. Contrary opinions, articles based off of interviews aren't hit pieces. Sounds to me like Conservative news sites are equally at fault because, by your logic, they won't publish an article critical of the Republicans in power. :dunce:

Hypocrite.
Not to mention, I've posted donk critical articles.

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:05 am
by travelinman67
Get a room.





Wear a condom.

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:07 am
by Ibanez
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-tv/a ... 64156.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/jon- ... zes-obama/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mog ... 02146.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You'll like the last one.
For the first time in American history, Democrats are about to pass a bill that uses the coercive power of the federal government to force every American -- simply by virtue of being an American -- to purchase the products of a private company.

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:07 am
by Ibanez
travelinman67 wrote:Get a room.





Wear a condom.
Apology accepted.

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:24 am
by kalm
travelinman67 wrote:Get a room.





Wear a condom.
We use the rythm method.

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:32 am
by travelinman67
Ibanez wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-tv/a ... 64156.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/jon- ... zes-obama/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mog ... 02146.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
First one...critical of OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN for fabricating negative rumor about Romney...
Image

Second one...showcasing Jonathan Stewart commentary about use of Drones...
Image

Third...commentary critical of (House created) Obamacare for not nationalizing U.S. healthcare...
Image


Won't

Criticize

Obama.

Next,

Travis?

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:32 am
by Gil Dobie
The biggest difference between jail and treatment, is that jail is perceived as worse on your criminal record.

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:38 am
by Ibanez
travelinman67 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-tv/a ... 64156.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/jon- ... zes-obama/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mog ... 02146.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
First one...critical of OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN for fabricating negative rumor about Romney...
Image

Second one...showcasing Jonathan Stewart commentary about use of Drones...
Image

Third...commentary critical of (House created) Obamacare for not nationalizing U.S. healthcare...
Image


Won't

Criticize

Obama.

Next,

Travis?
Huff Post posted articles that have criticism of Obama, a democrat. They posted an article, about a Democrat criticizing Obama. They posted video their founder criticizing Obama. I'm right.

My name isn't Travis. My name is right over there ------------->

And when you want to talk/act like a man, and not a whiny 15 yr old girl with the name calling, i'll be right here. I'm not going to waste my time on a middle aged man that "debates" like a child.

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:40 am
by Ibanez
travelinman67 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-tv/a ... 64156.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/jon- ... zes-obama/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mog ... 02146.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
First one...critical of OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN for fabricating negative rumor about Romney...
You should've have stopped right there. You're first line agrees with me. Being critical of Obama's campaign is being critical of Obama.

I win.

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:48 am
by Ibanez
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/3 ... 83076.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The fact that president Obama’s got so worked up over analysis of the HuffPost criticizing his trade agenda, I think that it says something,” Global Trade Watch research director Ben Beachy told HuffPost Live on Friday. “I think what it says is Obama is having to reckon with the difficult reality that his trade agenda directly conflicts with and undermines his stated middle class economics agenda.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/2 ... 56114.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Labor unions, environmental groups, open Internet advocates and public health experts have steadfastly opposed Obama's trade priorities out of concern they will exacerbate income inequality and undermine important regulations. Republican leaders in Congress and lobbyists with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, meanwhile, have said the policies will boost corporate profits and economic growth.
If they were truly, anti- reporting anything critical of Democrats, then the above article wouldn't exist. They wouldn't report Democrats criticizing Obama.

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:12 pm
by travelinman67
Okey dokey. You're right. HuffPo creates fair and balanced reporting. And their article critical of a Conk who has admitted smoking pot, wasn't a hit piece.

:thumb:

Have a nice day at work...

...at McDonalds.

Re: What a Dope

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:03 pm
by Ibanez
travelinman67 wrote:Okey dokey. You're right. HuffPo creates fair and balanced reporting. And their article critical of a Conk who has admitted smoking pot, wasn't a hit piece.

:thumb:

Have a nice day at work...

...at McDonalds.
I never said they were fair and balanced. They aren't. They have a liberal agenda. I'm just saying you're wrong and my posts have proved that. You are the child that can't admit you're wrong. Your stereotype didn't work. Hell, even Fox News will occasionally criticize Republicans. Perhaps you should work on reading comprehension. Maybe you can do that in retirement.

Also, a job joke? That's clever. That was such a witty retort. That's top notch. Well played. Glad to see you're such an adult. Such a mature man. :)