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Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:38 am
by kalm
I mean why stop short when you're so close? At least we now have an established third party.
Koch Brothers’ Budget of $889 Million for 2016 Is on Par With Both Parties’ Spending
The political network overseen by the conservative billionaires Charles G. and David H. Koch plans to spend close to $900 million on the 2016 campaign, an unparalleled effort by coordinated outside groups to shape a presidential election that is already on track to be the most expensive in history.
The spending goal, revealed Monday at the Kochs’ annual winter donor retreat near Palm Springs, Calif., would allow their political organization to operate at the same financial scale as the Democratic and Republican Parties. It would require a significant financial commitment from the Kochs and roughly 300 other donors they have recruited over the years, and covers both the presidential and congressional races. In the last presidential election, the Republican National Committee and the party’s two congressional campaign committees spent a total of $657 million.
Hundreds of conservative donors recruited by the Kochs gathered over the weekend for three days of issue seminars, strategy sessions and mingling with rising elected officials. These donors represent the largest concentration of political money outside the party establishment, one that has achieved enormous power in Republican circles in recent years………..
As the three senators addressed the audience of rich donors — effectively an audition for the 2016 primary — they dismissed a question about whether the wealthy had too much influence in politics. At times they seemed to be addressing an audience of two: the Kochs themselves, now among the country’s most influential conservative power brokers.
Mr. Cruz gave an impassioned defense of his hosts as job creators and the victims of unfair attacks by Democrats, while Mr. Rubio suggested that only liberals supported campaign finance restrictions, so as to empower what he said were their allies in Hollywood and the news media.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/us/po ... .html?_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:01 am
by Gil Dobie
It's the American way. Carnegie, Rockefeller and Morgan helped elect Mckinley and if we could find the stat, I bet they spent a lot more than the parties back in 1896.
Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:01 am
by Wedgebuster
Some say the Koch bros stand to pocket 100B on the Keystone Pipeline, a single billion is chump change when buying control of the US Government.

Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:13 am
by Gil Dobie
Wedgebuster wrote:Some say the Koch bros stand to pocket 100B on the Keystone Pipeline, a single billion is chump change when buying control of the US Government.

They are paying a whopping $20 per gallon for the Canadian sandoil.
Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:27 am
by Cap'n Cat
Koch Brothers and every other Conk in the world profiting from the Obama stock market, yet haranguing him.
GObama!!!!

Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:35 am
by Gil Dobie
Cap'n Cat wrote:Koch Brothers and every other Conk in the world profiting from the Obama stock market, yet haranguing him.
GObama!!!!

I need to get on the Conk list and see some of that profit.

Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:38 am
by Cap'n Cat
Gil Dobie wrote:Cap'n Cat wrote:Koch Brothers and every other Conk in the world profiting from the Obama stock market, yet haranguing him.
GObama!!!!

I need to get on the Conk list and see some of that profit.

You're not 1 percenter material, Gil.
Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:56 am
by Gil Dobie
Cap'n Cat wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:
I need to get on the Conk list and see some of that profit.

You're not 1 percenter material, Gil.
You are right, I'll never be a politician.
Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:48 am
by Ivytalk
Pikers.

Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:46 pm
by YoUDeeMan
Well, somebody has to balance out all the tax sucking, "gimmee somfrin fo' nothin'" losers who are voting Democrat.
In the end, the lower class and upper class get their money, while the middle class gets screwed.
Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:49 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
I like how the Left is trying to tell these guys how, when and what they can spend their money on.
ITS THEIR FU*KING MONEY, NOT YOURS!!!
Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:44 pm
by CID1990
kalm wrote:I mean why stop short when you're so close?
At least we now have an established third party.
Koch Brothers’ Budget of $889 Million for 2016 Is on Par With Both Parties’ Spending
The political network overseen by the conservative billionaires Charles G. and David H. Koch plans to spend close to $900 million on the 2016 campaign, an unparalleled effort by coordinated outside groups to shape a presidential election that is already on track to be the most expensive in history.
The spending goal, revealed Monday at the Kochs’ annual winter donor retreat near Palm Springs, Calif., would allow their political organization to operate at the same financial scale as the Democratic and Republican Parties. It would require a significant financial commitment from the Kochs and roughly 300 other donors they have recruited over the years, and covers both the presidential and congressional races. In the last presidential election, the Republican National Committee and the party’s two congressional campaign committees spent a total of $657 million.
Hundreds of conservative donors recruited by the Kochs gathered over the weekend for three days of issue seminars, strategy sessions and mingling with rising elected officials. These donors represent the largest concentration of political money outside the party establishment, one that has achieved enormous power in Republican circles in recent years………..
As the three senators addressed the audience of rich donors — effectively an audition for the 2016 primary — they dismissed a question about whether the wealthy had too much influence in politics. At times they seemed to be addressing an audience of two: the Kochs themselves, now among the country’s most influential conservative power brokers.
Mr. Cruz gave an impassioned defense of his hosts as job creators and the victims of unfair attacks by Democrats, while Mr. Rubio suggested that only liberals supported campaign finance restrictions, so as to empower what he said were their allies in Hollywood and the news media.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/us/po ... .html?_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You mean a 5th party. You left out George Soros and Hollywood.

Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:46 am
by kalm
Ok Ted.
Mr. Cruz gave an impassioned defense of his hosts as job creators and the victims of unfair attacks by Democrats, while Mr. Rubio suggested that only liberals supported campaign finance restrictions, so as to empower what he said were their allies in Hollywood and the news media.
Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:36 am
by YoUDeeMan
kalm wrote:
Ok Ted.
Mr. Cruz gave an impassioned defense of his hosts as job creators and the victims of unfair attacks by Democrats, while Mr. Rubio suggested that only liberals supported campaign finance restrictions, so as to empower what he said were their allies in Hollywood and the news media.
Sorros' money doesn't count? The ALFCIO money doesn't count?
Whose money counts...and whose money doesn't count?

Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:49 am
by kalm
Cluck U wrote:kalm wrote:
Ok Ted.
Sorros' money doesn't count? The ALFCIO money doesn't count?
Whose money counts...and whose money doesn't count?

Of course it all counts. I want it all gone.
Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:01 am
by Bronco
As usual whatever the neo-socialists accuse conservatives of is what they are really doing
It has worked well so why stop
Democrats bagged the bulk of big dollar donations in the 2014 midterm elections according to an analysis by the Associated Press.
Out of the $128 million spent by the top 10 individual donors to outside groups, Democrats hauled in $91 million or 71% of donations.
“Among groups that funneled more than $100,000 to allies, the top of the list tilted overwhelmingly toward Democrats—a group favoring the GOP doesn’t appear on the list until No. 14,” reports the AP.
Democrats also enjoyed a 3-to-1 cash advantage when it came to the 183 groups stroking checks of $100,000 or more. The liberal National Education Association (NEA) topped the list of big money donors at $22 million. The top ten list contained zero Republican-leaning groups.
“They’re total hypocrites when it comes to this subject,” said Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus. “They’ve made a living off campaign talking points when, in reality, they’ve been raking in more money from millionaire donors than Republicans for quite a while.”
Democrat hedge fund billionaire and global warming activist Tom Steyer blew at least $74 million on the 2014 midterm elections, making him the cycle’s largest individual donor.
The libertarian Koch Brothers came in tied for the 23rd spot of largest spenders, according to the
Associated Press.
Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:11 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
kalm wrote:Cluck U wrote:
Sorros' money doesn't count? The ALFCIO money doesn't count?
Whose money counts...and whose money doesn't count?

Of course it all counts. I want it all gone.
Why do you hate democracy and freedom?
Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:22 am
by YoUDeeMan
Bronco wrote:As usual whatever the neo-socialists accuse conservatives of is what they are really doing
It has worked well so why stop
Democrats bagged the bulk of big dollar donations in the 2014 midterm elections according to an analysis by the Associated Press.
Out of the $128 million spent by the top 10 individual donors to outside groups, Democrats hauled in $91 million or 71% of donations.
“Among groups that funneled more than $100,000 to allies, the top of the list tilted overwhelmingly toward Democrats—a group favoring the GOP doesn’t appear on the list until No. 14,” reports the AP.
Democrats also enjoyed a 3-to-1 cash advantage when it came to the 183 groups stroking checks of $100,000 or more. The liberal National Education Association (NEA) topped the list of big money donors at $22 million. The top ten list contained zero Republican-leaning groups.
“They’re total hypocrites when it comes to this subject,” said Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus. “They’ve made a living off campaign talking points when, in reality, they’ve been raking in more money from millionaire donors than Republicans for quite a while.”
Democrat hedge fund billionaire and global warming activist Tom Steyer blew at least $74 million on the 2014 midterm elections, making him the cycle’s largest individual donor.
The libertarian Koch Brothers came in tied for the 23rd spot of largest spenders, according to the
Associated Press.
kalm sneaks quietly away...
Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:44 pm
by Ivytalk
TOM STEYER!!!

Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:47 pm
by CID1990
kalm wrote:Cluck U wrote:
Sorros' money doesn't count? The ALFCIO money doesn't count?
Whose money counts...and whose money doesn't count?

Of course it all counts. I want it all gone.
says the guy who starts threads about the Kochs only
Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:00 pm
by kalm
CID1990 wrote:kalm wrote:
Of course it all counts. I want it all gone.
says the guy who starts threads about the Kochs only
Yeah, still looking for a right wing article about the negative influence of money on elections.

Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:27 pm
by Bronco
Here is the list of unions that top the Koch Brothers in political donations.
Over the past twenty five years, from 1989 to 2014, Koch Industries has donated $18,083,948 in political contributions to Republicans. While that seems like a large sum, it only ranks them as number 59 on the list of top all-time political donors – behind 18 different unions.
Via Open Secrets:
2.) American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,667,379
4.) National Education Assn $53,594,488
7.) Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $44,478,789
8.) United Auto Workers $41,667,858
9.) Carpenters & Joiners Union $39,260,371
10.) Service Employees International Union $38,395,690
11.) Laborers Union $37,494,010
12.) American Federation of Teachers $36,713,325
13.) Communications Workers of America $36,188,135
14.) Teamsters Union $36,123,209
16.) United Food & Commercial Workers Union $33,756,550
20.) Machinists & Aerospace Workers Union $31,313,097
23.) AFL-CIO $30,938,977
32.) National Assn of Letter Carriers $26,106,359
39.) Plumbers & Pipefitters Union $23,886,248
42.) Operating Engineers Union $23,036,848
43.) International Assn of Fire Fighters $22,963,260
46.) Sheet Metal Workers Union $22,372,978
59.) Koch Industries $18,083,948
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Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:49 pm
by kalm
Bronco wrote:Here is the list of unions that top the Koch Brothers in political donations.
Over the past twenty five years, from 1989 to 2014, Koch Industries has donated $18,083,948 in political contributions to Republicans. While that seems like a large sum, it only ranks them as number 59 on the list of top all-time political donors – behind 18 different unions.
Via Open Secrets:
2.) American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,667,379
4.) National Education Assn $53,594,488
7.) Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $44,478,789
8.) United Auto Workers $41,667,858
9.) Carpenters & Joiners Union $39,260,371
10.) Service Employees International Union $38,395,690
11.) Laborers Union $37,494,010
12.) American Federation of Teachers $36,713,325
13.) Communications Workers of America $36,188,135
14.) Teamsters Union $36,123,209
16.) United Food & Commercial Workers Union $33,756,550
20.) Machinists & Aerospace Workers Union $31,313,097
23.) AFL-CIO $30,938,977
32.) National Assn of Letter Carriers $26,106,359
39.) Plumbers & Pipefitters Union $23,886,248
42.) Operating Engineers Union $23,036,848
43.) International Assn of Fire Fighters $22,963,260
46.) Sheet Metal Workers Union $22,372,978
59.) Koch Industries $18,083,948
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Interesting considering their network spent over $400 million in 2012 alone. They must really believe in their ideology.
The Washington Post and the Center for Responsive Politics identified a coalition of allied conservative groups active in the 2012 elections that together raised at least $407 million, backed by a donor network organized by the industrialists Charles and David Koch. Most of the funds originated with two groups, the Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce and TC4 Trust, both of which routed some of the money through a Phoenix-based nonprofit group called the Center to Protect Patient Rights (CPPR).
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Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:43 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Bronco wrote:Here is the list of unions that top the Koch Brothers in political donations.
Over the past twenty five years, from 1989 to 2014, Koch Industries has donated $18,083,948 in political contributions to Republicans. While that seems like a large sum, it only ranks them as number 59 on the list of top all-time political donors – behind 18 different unions.
Via Open Secrets:
2.) American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,667,379
4.) National Education Assn $53,594,488
7.) Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $44,478,789
8.) United Auto Workers $41,667,858
9.) Carpenters & Joiners Union $39,260,371
10.) Service Employees International Union $38,395,690
11.) Laborers Union $37,494,010
12.) American Federation of Teachers $36,713,325
13.) Communications Workers of America $36,188,135
14.) Teamsters Union $36,123,209
16.) United Food & Commercial Workers Union $33,756,550
20.) Machinists & Aerospace Workers Union $31,313,097
23.) AFL-CIO $30,938,977
32.) National Assn of Letter Carriers $26,106,359
39.) Plumbers & Pipefitters Union $23,886,248
42.) Operating Engineers Union $23,036,848
43.) International Assn of Fire Fighters $22,963,260
46.) Sheet Metal Workers Union $22,372,978
59.) Koch Industries $18,083,948
(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...
It is simply mindbottling how stupid the left is. That is an incredible amount of money they waste on unions, it is sad they are so god dammed dumb.

Re: Why Not $900 Million?
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:51 am
by kalm