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andy7171 wrote:I send my condolences to Princess Jasmine. And pray to Allah that someone other than Jafar is able to wrest control of the Kingdom.

travelinman67 wrote:Obama: "I had a close personal relationship with the King."

NBC's Richard Engel: "Everyone knew King Abdullah could not stand Obama."

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/nbcs-richard ... stand-him/


(Will update as soon as Engel posts his out-of-work notice)

kalm wrote:

travelinman67 wrote:Obama: "I had a close personal relationship with the King."

NBC's Richard Engel: "Everyone knew King Abdullah could not stand Obama."

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/nbcs-richard ... stand-him/


(Will update as soon as Engel posts his out-of-work notice)

Does this make you happy or sad?

Chizzang wrote:Frankly we could use a little more hatred between the US and Saudi Arabia
We're far too buddy buddy with the biggest terrorist state in the world

One obvious difference between the two leaders was that Chávez was elected and Abdullah was not. Another is that Chávez used the nation’s oil resources to attempt to improve the lives of the nation’s most improverished while Abdullah used his to further enrich Saudi oligarchs and western elites. Another is that the severity of Abdullah’s human rights abuses and militarism makes Chávez look in comparison like Gandhi.

But when it comes to western political and media discourse, the only difference that matters is that Chávez was a U.S. adversary while Abdullah was a loyal U.S. ally – which, by itself for purposes of the U.S. and British media, converts the former into an evil villainous monster and the latter into a beloved symbol of peace, reform and progress. As but one of countless examples: last year, British Prime Minister David Cameron – literally the best and most reliable friend to world dictators after Tony Blair – stood in Parliament after being questioned by British MP George Galloway and said: “there is one thing that is certain: wherever there is a brutal Arab dictator in the world, he will have the support of [Galloway]”; last night, the very same David Cameron pronounced himself “deeply saddened” and said the Saudi King would be remembered for his “commitment to peace and for strengthening understanding between faiths.”

That’s why there is nobody outside of American cable news, DC think tanks, and the self-loving Oxbridge clique in London which does anything but scoff with scorn and dark amusement when the US and UK prance around as defenders of freedom and democracy. Only in those circles of tribalism, jingoism and propaganda is such tripe taken at all seriously.

DSUrocks07 wrote:Obama cut short his trip to India to travel to Saudi Arabia for the funeral

Fox News's FB comment section had a predictable response

https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/posts/ ... 7397111336

andy7171 wrote:I send my condolences to Princess Jasmine. And pray to Allah that someone other than Jafar is able to wrest control of the Kingdom.

travelinman67 wrote:Obama: "I had a close personal relationship with the King."

NBC's Richard Engel: "Everyone knew King Abdullah could not stand Obama."

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/nbcs-richard ... stand-him/


(Will update as soon as Engel posts his out-of-work notice)

kalm wrote:Interesting contrast between western reaction to Abdullah and Chavez. Which was worse?

One obvious difference between the two leaders was that Chávez was elected and Abdullah was not. Another is that Chávez used the nation’s oil resources to attempt to improve the lives of the nation’s most improverished while Abdullah used his to further enrich Saudi oligarchs and western elites.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015 ... go-chavez/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

andy7171 wrote:Yeah. Chavez was elected like Saddam was with 101% of the vote.