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Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:32 am
by kalm
Conks:
Is he really the most powerful conservative pundit in America?
If so, is that a good thing?
RedState’s mission statement, posted on the site, explicitly one-ups the famous motto of William F. Buckley Jr.’s National Review. “RedState does not stand athwart history yelling stop,” it says. “We yell ‘ready,’ ‘aim,’ and ‘fire,’ too.”
RedState draws about a quarter of a million unique visitors a month, according to comScore—a fraction of the audience of conservative sites like Newsmax and The Daily Caller. Erickson himself is not nearly as visible a pundit as, say, Ann Coulter or Karl Rove. But he may be more influential: His pronouncements can decide whether a policy lives or dies. His anointment can lift a candidate out of obscurity. Members of Congress have him on speed dial.
Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, told me he consults Erickson regularly, and the conservative faction of the House GOP looks to RedState for guidance. “A lot of times those articles actually steer the direction of members of Congress as we’re making decisions in Washington, D.C.,” Jim Bridenstine, a first-term congressman from Oklahoma, told me, citing gun background checks and immigration reform as two recent areas where many Republicans were leaning toward compromise until RedState urged them to resist.
Erickson’s influence stems from the fact that he’s not just a pundit—he’s an activist who gets involved in contentious primary battles, bestowing endorsements that draw attention and cash to little-known candidates. In 2009, he came out for Marco Rubio in Florida’s Senate race when the former state legislator was polling nearly 50 points behind and the whole GOP apparatus was backing Charlie Crist, the former governor who has since switched parties. More endorsements for Rubio followed, including from the deep-pocketed Senate Conservatives Fund and the Club for Growth, and Crist dropped out of the primary to run as an independent. Rubio ended up winning the general election by 19 points.
Other conservative challengers who benefited from Erickson’s endorsements in the 2010 cycle include Mike Lee, who took down Bob Bennett, a three-term Republican senator from Utah, and Rand Paul, who ran in the Kentucky Senate primary against Mitch McConnell’s preferred candidate, Trey Grayson.
A South Carolina state lawmaker named Nikki Haley was considered a long shot for the 2010 gubernatorial nomination when she caught Erickson’s fancy with her conservative zeal. For 10 days straight, RedState featured her on its front page, urging readers to donate. Haley gained momentum, and a late endorsement from Sarah Palin helped catapult her to the top of the field. “RedState was there in the very beginning,” Haley, who considers Erickson a “dear friend,” told me. “I was ‘Nikki who?’ ” Haley was just reelected to a second term as South Carolina’s governor, and has been on the longer lists of potential 2016 vice-presidential nominees.
Ted Cruz came from 3 percent in the polls and a three-to-one cash disadvantage to win his 2012 Senate primary in Texas, thanks in part to Erickson’s boosting. Cruz has attended every one of RedState’s annual “Gatherings” since they began in 2009. Cruz and Erickson have become friends, and Erickson has said Cruz is as great as “all the Beatles in one person” and called him “the leader of the conservative movement.” (Cruz returns the favor. “RedState gives people a voice,” he told me.)
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Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:36 am
by CAA Flagship
Why did his parents name him Erick?

Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:37 am
by Ibanez
I've heard of him but shame on people who name their children in this manner.
Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:38 am
by Grizalltheway
He's Erick, son of Erick. You non-Nords wouldn't understand.

Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:55 am
by GannonFan
Ibanez wrote:I've heard of him but shame on people who name their children in this manner.
Indeed, never heard of this guy either but the name is laughable. You don't see a lot of John Johnson or William Williamson for a good reason.
Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:02 am
by CAA Flagship
Grizalltheway wrote:He's Erick, son of Erick. You non-Nords wouldn't understand.

Redundant.
Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:02 am
by OL FU
He has a talk show in Atlanta. Like most talk show host he is interesting for about the first week and then it gets as boring as the rest.
My understanding just from listening to others is that apparently he has many connections with politicians and the political class because they seem to think his advice on how to run, how to phrase and how to position is good. That could be, but.....
If you listen to his talk show you will find that funny cuz half the time he sounds like he is about to take off in the loony rocket to Planet Nutz.

Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:17 am
by AZGrizFan
Never heard of him.
Thought this thread was about the new season of The Vikings coming up.
Fucker.
Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:31 am
by Gil Dobie
I once knew an Einar Einarson, Sigmund Sigmundson and Fingar Fingarson from a local Icelandic community.
Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:35 am
by Grizalltheway
CAA Flagship wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:He's Erick, son of Erick. You non-Nords wouldn't understand.

Redundant.
No you are
Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:37 am
by Baldy
kalm wrote:Conks:
Is he really the most powerful conservative pundit in America?
If so, is that a good thing?
RedState’s mission statement, posted on the site, explicitly one-ups the famous motto of William F. Buckley Jr.’s National Review. “RedState does not stand athwart history yelling stop,” it says. “We yell ‘ready,’ ‘aim,’ and ‘fire,’ too.”
RedState draws about a quarter of a million unique visitors a month, according to comScore—a fraction of the audience of conservative sites like Newsmax and The Daily Caller. Erickson himself is not nearly as visible a pundit as, say, Ann Coulter or Karl Rove. But he may be more influential: His pronouncements can decide whether a policy lives or dies. His anointment can lift a candidate out of obscurity. Members of Congress have him on speed dial.
Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, told me he consults Erickson regularly, and the conservative faction of the House GOP looks to RedState for guidance. “A lot of times those articles actually steer the direction of members of Congress as we’re making decisions in Washington, D.C.,” Jim Bridenstine, a first-term congressman from Oklahoma, told me, citing gun background checks and immigration reform as two recent areas where many Republicans were leaning toward compromise until RedState urged them to resist.
Erickson’s influence stems from the fact that he’s not just a pundit—he’s an activist who gets involved in contentious primary battles, bestowing endorsements that draw attention and cash to little-known candidates. In 2009, he came out for Marco Rubio in Florida’s Senate race when the former state legislator was polling nearly 50 points behind and the whole GOP apparatus was backing Charlie Crist, the former governor who has since switched parties. More endorsements for Rubio followed, including from the deep-pocketed Senate Conservatives Fund and the Club for Growth, and Crist dropped out of the primary to run as an independent. Rubio ended up winning the general election by 19 points.
Other conservative challengers who benefited from Erickson’s endorsements in the 2010 cycle include Mike Lee, who took down Bob Bennett, a three-term Republican senator from Utah, and Rand Paul, who ran in the Kentucky Senate primary against Mitch McConnell’s preferred candidate, Trey Grayson.
A South Carolina state lawmaker named Nikki Haley was considered a long shot for the 2010 gubernatorial nomination when she caught Erickson’s fancy with her conservative zeal. For 10 days straight, RedState featured her on its front page, urging readers to donate. Haley gained momentum, and a late endorsement from Sarah Palin helped catapult her to the top of the field. “RedState was there in the very beginning,” Haley, who considers Erickson a “dear friend,” told me. “I was ‘Nikki who?’ ” Haley was just reelected to a second term as South Carolina’s governor, and has been on the longer lists of potential 2016 vice-presidential nominees.
Ted Cruz came from 3 percent in the polls and a three-to-one cash disadvantage to win his 2012 Senate primary in Texas, thanks in part to Erickson’s boosting. Cruz has attended every one of RedState’s annual “Gatherings” since they began in 2009. Cruz and Erickson have become friends, and Erickson has said Cruz is as great as “all the Beatles in one person” and called him “the leader of the conservative movement.” (Cruz returns the favor. “RedState gives people a voice,” he told me.)
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When the Donks have pundits like Melissa Harris-Perry, Martin Bashir, Lawrence O'Donnell, etc., Erickson sounds like a boring yawner. Big swing and a miss, kalm.
Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:43 am
by kalm
Gil Dobie wrote:I once knew an Einar Einarson, Sigmund Sigmundson and Fingar Fingarson from a local Icelandic community.
I know a Bob Robertson and a John Johnson.
Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:44 am
by kalm
Baldy wrote:
When the Donks have pundits like Melissa Harris-Perry, Martin Bashir, Lawrence O'Donnell, etc., Erickson sounds like a boring yawner. Big swing and a miss, kalm.
I thought it was a good article and I kind of like the guy. What was I swinging at?

Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:59 am
by CAA Flagship
Grizalltheway wrote:CAA Flagship wrote:
Redundant.
No you are
Punctuation.
Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:49 am
by Grizalltheway
CAA Flagship wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:
No you are
Punctuation.
Nah
Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:54 am
by kalm
And just to calm down Baldy's apoplexy, here's the story of a donk establishment hatchet man straight from Greenwald's site:
Raised in Idaho by a single mother, Messina moved to Washington in 1995, in his mid-20s, to take a job as a legislative aide for Max Baucus, the conservative Democratic senator from Montana (now ambassador to China). Baucus supported George W. Bush-era personal and corporate tax cuts, and other policies favored by the Wall Street firms, pharmaceutical companies, and lobbyists, from whom he raised so much money.
Up until 2002, Messina was still largely unknown. But that year, when managing Baucus’s Senate re-election campaign, he released one of the more homophobic ads of modern political times. It featured footage from a 20-year-old TV ad for a hair salon run by Baucus’s opponent, Mike Taylor –who at the time was 20 points behind in the polls and had no chance of winning –who was seen massaging a man’s face while wearing an open-front shirt, and hence was obviously supposed to be gay.
The ad, set to a porn soundtrack, caused Taylor to drop out of the race. When he announced two weeks later that he was resuming a limited campaign aimed largely at “getting the slander out of Montana politics,” Messina issued a public letter that asked Taylor to sign a “clean campaign pledge” for the remainder of the race, saying, “We take you at your word that you want to turn over a new leaf and run a positive campaign.”
This sort of scumminess put Messina on the map in Democratic circles. He also became known as a world class asshole who kept an “enemies” list on an Excel spreadsheet. “Everybody was a douchebag,” says a person who knew him then. “He kept score.”
In 2008, Messina joined Obama’s presidential campaign and after the inauguration was named as a deputy chief of staff under the awful Rahm Emanuel. One of his first jobs was to salvage Timothy Geithner’s confirmation as Treasury Secretary, which was endangered due to tax irregularities. The fact that Baucus, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, was in charge of Geithner’s confirmation made Messina’s job a lot easier. (The basic story is told in this Washington Post blow job, or “beat sweetener,” as it’s known in D.C. journalism circles.)
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Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:21 am
by Ibanez
My friends Lomez, Corky Ramirez and Bob Sacamano hate this guy.
Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:27 am
by Chizzang
kalm wrote:Baldy wrote:
When the Donks have pundits like Melissa Harris-Perry, Martin Bashir, Lawrence O'Donnell, etc., Erickson sounds like a boring yawner. Big swing and a miss, kalm.
I thought it was a good article and I kind of like the guy. What was I swinging at?

Agreed,
He's hilarious and takes shots at everybody - on both sides...
Those were some pretty good quotes in that article
I'm guessing Baldy didn't read the article
I thought this was damn funny:
"There are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship..."

Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:45 pm
by Baldy
kalm wrote:And just to calm down Baldy's apoplexy, here's the story of a donk establishment hatchet man straight from Greenwald's site:
Raised in Idaho by a single mother, Messina moved to Washington in 1995, in his mid-20s, to take a job as a legislative aide for Max Baucus, the conservative Democratic senator from Montana (now ambassador to China). Baucus supported George W. Bush-era personal and corporate tax cuts, and other policies favored by the Wall Street firms, pharmaceutical companies, and lobbyists, from whom he raised so much money.
Up until 2002, Messina was still largely unknown. But that year, when managing Baucus’s Senate re-election campaign, he released one of the more homophobic ads of modern political times. It featured footage from a 20-year-old TV ad for a hair salon run by Baucus’s opponent, Mike Taylor –who at the time was 20 points behind in the polls and had no chance of winning –who was seen massaging a man’s face while wearing an open-front shirt, and hence was obviously supposed to be gay.
The ad, set to a porn soundtrack, caused Taylor to drop out of the race. When he announced two weeks later that he was resuming a limited campaign aimed largely at “getting the slander out of Montana politics,” Messina issued a public letter that asked Taylor to sign a “clean campaign pledge” for the remainder of the race, saying, “We take you at your word that you want to turn over a new leaf and run a positive campaign.”
This sort of scumminess put Messina on the map in Democratic circles. He also became known as a world class asshole who kept an “enemies” list on an Excel spreadsheet. “Everybody was a douchebag,” says a person who knew him then. “He kept score.”
In 2008, Messina joined Obama’s presidential campaign and after the inauguration was named as a deputy chief of staff under the awful Rahm Emanuel. One of his first jobs was to salvage Timothy Geithner’s confirmation as Treasury Secretary, which was endangered due to tax irregularities. The fact that Baucus, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, was in charge of Geithner’s confirmation made Messina’s job a lot easier. (The basic story is told in this Washington Post blow job, or “beat sweetener,” as it’s known in D.C. journalism circles.)
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It's gonna take a whole lot more than a poor attempt at a troll about a subject I couldn't care less about to get me apoplectic.

Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:13 pm
by Ivytalk
Erik Erikson, the psychoanalyst and personality theorist (Childhood and Society), I've heard of, and read.
Erick Erickson? Not so much.
Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:22 pm
by ASUG8
AZGrizFan wrote:Never heard of him.
This.
Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:07 pm
by JohnStOnge
I never heard of him either before this but I don't think Erick Erickson is bad as a name. Kind of like John Johnson. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I think that combo works OK.
Trying to think of a female one. Alice Allison?
Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:33 am
by CID1990
OL FU I noted that this thread had been blowed up real good and then your first post brought it back into legitimacy.
This is a criticism, not a compliment.
Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:44 am
by OL FU
CID1990 wrote:OL FU I noted that this thread had been blowed up real good and then your first post brought it back into legitimacy.
This is a criticism, not a compliment.
I do realize I should simply read

Re: Erick Erickson?
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:49 pm
by Ivytalk
Gil Dobie wrote:I once knew an Einar Einarson, Sigmund Sigmundson and Fingar Fingarson from a local Icelandic community.
You forgot Inga Fokkmadottir.
