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Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:18 am
by andy7171
What are your thoughts?
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Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:28 am
by Ibanez
It's their prerogative but I think it's classless to do it at a funeral.

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:29 am
by houndawg
Unions. :ohno:

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:05 am
by AZGrizFan
houndawg wrote:Unions. :ohno:
:lol: :lol: :thumb:

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:10 am
by GannonFan
Time and a place - at a funeral isn't the time or the place.

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:29 am
by Pwns
houndawg wrote:Unions. :ohno:
I agree...glad to see you are developing some skepticism of unionized public employee mentality. :thumb:

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:52 am
by Chizzang
If only our hero Ronald Reagan were alive today to break this wretched Union
He wouldn't tolerate such disrespect



:rofl:

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:16 pm
by dbackjon
Ibanez wrote:It's their prerogative but I think it's classless to do it at a funeral.

This

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:17 pm
by dbackjon
Chizzang wrote:If only our hero Ronald Reagan were alive today to break this wretched Union
He wouldn't tolerate such disrespect



:rofl:

Or if a room of troops did that to Reagan/Bush??

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:20 pm
by Chizzang
dbackjon wrote:
Chizzang wrote:If only our hero Ronald Reagan were alive today to break this wretched Union
He wouldn't tolerate such disrespect



:rofl:

Or if a room of troops did that to Reagan/Bush??
But: You can't physically turn around when somebody is actively blowing you Jon...


:coffee:

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:32 pm
by AZGrizFan
dbackjon wrote:
Chizzang wrote:If only our hero Ronald Reagan were alive today to break this wretched Union
He wouldn't tolerate such disrespect



:rofl:

Or if a room of troops did that to Reagan/Bush??
Why would troops do that to Reagan or Bush? Reagan and Bush were military supporters, unlike the current occupant of the White House.

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:40 pm
by Grizalltheway
AZGrizFan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Or if a room of troops did that to Reagan/Bush??
Why would troops do that to Reagan or Bush? Reagan and Bush were military supporters, unlike the current occupant of the White House.
Yeah. Bush was such an ardent supporter of the military he sent thousands of them to die for absolutely no reason. :dunce:

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:52 pm
by AZGrizFan
Grizalltheway wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Why would troops do that to Reagan or Bush? Reagan and Bush were military supporters, unlike the current occupant of the White House.
Yeah. Bush was such an ardent supporter of the military he sent thousands of them to die for absolutely no reason. :dunce:
I know. Bill Clinton told him Sadaam had WMD and Bill wasn't man enough to do anything about it. :coffee:

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:50 pm
by D1B
Funeral is perfect time to do it. Amazing show of support for the deceased and condemnation of a scumbag politician.

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:30 am
by andy7171
Though I doubt the sincerity of D1B, I tend to agree. DeBlasio very public ally turned his back on the NYPD when he felt it was to his political advantage. Had he not made those statements. Who is to say this nut case makes the trip to NYC to do this.

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:04 am
by Chizzang
andy7171 wrote:Though I doubt the sincerity of D1B, I tend to agree. DeBlasio very public ally turned his back on the NYPD when he felt it was to his political advantage. Had he not made those statements. Who is to say this nut case makes the trip to NYC to do this.
Every action has a consequence and potential reaction...
We can play that domino theory all the way back (one action at a time) to the Civil War

Everybody is responsible for their own behavior (Period)
To say the Mayor and his stupid political blundering is causing deaths of Highly Trained Police Officers is possibly the largest leap in blame gaming I've seen since Reverend Jackson asked for reparations

this exercise should make somebody embarrassed (but somehow doesn't)

:shock:

This whole thing reminds me of the kids who shot all those other kids at Columbine High
and the media wanted to blame it on Marilyn Manson - the music they listened to

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:53 am
by GannonFan
Chizzang wrote:
andy7171 wrote:Though I doubt the sincerity of D1B, I tend to agree. DeBlasio very public ally turned his back on the NYPD when he felt it was to his political advantage. Had he not made those statements. Who is to say this nut case makes the trip to NYC to do this.
Every action has a consequence and potential reaction...
We can play that domino theory all the way back (one action at a time) to the Civil War

Everybody is responsible for their own behavior (Period)
To say the Mayor and his stupid political blundering is causing deaths of Highly Trained Police Officers is possibly the largest leap in blame gaming I've seen since Reverend Jackson asked for reparations

this exercise should make somebody embarrassed (but somehow doesn't)

:shock:

This whole thing reminds me of the kids who shot all those other kids at Columbine High
and the media wanted to blame it on Marilyn Manson - the music they listened to

That's all fine and well, but in real life things are never that simple and you don't just get to make it simple by saying "period" after whatever it is that you're trying to oversimplify. Of course everyone is responsible for their own actions. Even in the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" the people who didn't yell fire and who are stampeding over other people are responsible for stampeding people, but that doesn't excuse the guy who yelled fire either. I'm not in the know enough on what exactly Blasio did say or did do in the leadup to the cops getting gunned down, but it's certainly plausible that someone could say something enough and loud enough and in the wrong situation that could make them a party to responsibility when someone hears their message and goes out and acts on it. Being the centrist I am, the world is full of grayness in between all that black and white you see.

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:56 am
by kalm
GannonFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Every action has a consequence and potential reaction...
We can play that domino theory all the way back (one action at a time) to the Civil War

Everybody is responsible for their own behavior (Period)
To say the Mayor and his stupid political blundering is causing deaths of Highly Trained Police Officers is possibly the largest leap in blame gaming I've seen since Reverend Jackson asked for reparations

this exercise should make somebody embarrassed (but somehow doesn't)

:shock:

This whole thing reminds me of the kids who shot all those other kids at Columbine High
and the media wanted to blame it on Marilyn Manson - the music they listened to

That's all fine and well, but in real life things are never that simple and you don't just get to make it simple by saying "period" after whatever it is that you're trying to oversimplify. Of course everyone is responsible for their own actions. Even in the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" the people who didn't yell fire and who are stampeding over other people are responsible for stampeding people, but that doesn't excuse the guy who yelled fire either. I'm not in the know enough on what exactly Blasio did say or did do in the leadup to the cops getting gunned down, but it's certainly plausible that someone could say something enough and loud enough and in the wrong situation that could make them a party to responsibility when someone hears their message and goes out and acts on it. Being the centrist I am, the world is full of grayness in between all that black and white you see.
Did Deblasio suggest killing cops? :?

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:16 pm
by andy7171
He certainly stoked the fire that caused the chanting What do we want-DEAD COPS. When do we want them --NOW. And then was silent afterward. Of course you could say, he didn't have to address them. But isn't that what politicians do?

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:19 pm
by dbackjon
Grizalltheway wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Why would troops do that to Reagan or Bush? Reagan and Bush were military supporters, unlike the current occupant of the White House.
Yeah. Bush was such an ardent supporter of the military he sent thousands of them to die for absolutely no reason. :dunce:

With supporters like Reagan and Bush, the military needs more enemies.

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:23 pm
by AZGrizFan
dbackjon wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Yeah. Bush was such an ardent supporter of the military he sent thousands of them to die for absolutely no reason. :dunce:

With supporters like Reagan and Bush, the military needs more enemies.
WAY few died under Reagan than under your current hero occupying the White House. WAY fewer.

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:01 pm
by GannonFan
kalm wrote:
GannonFan wrote:

That's all fine and well, but in real life things are never that simple and you don't just get to make it simple by saying "period" after whatever it is that you're trying to oversimplify. Of course everyone is responsible for their own actions. Even in the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" the people who didn't yell fire and who are stampeding over other people are responsible for stampeding people, but that doesn't excuse the guy who yelled fire either. I'm not in the know enough on what exactly Blasio did say or did do in the leadup to the cops getting gunned down, but it's certainly plausible that someone could say something enough and loud enough and in the wrong situation that could make them a party to responsibility when someone hears their message and goes out and acts on it. Being the centrist I am, the world is full of grayness in between all that black and white you see.
Did Deblasio suggest killing cops? :?
Did I suggest that he did? Do you need more straw? :roll:

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:29 pm
by kalm
GannonFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Did Deblasio suggest killing cops? :?
Did I suggest that he did? Do you need more straw? :roll:
Here we go again... :ohno:

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:45 pm
by GannonFan
kalm wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Did I suggest that he did? Do you need more straw? :roll:
Here we go again... :ohno:
Then stop doing it then. :roll:

Re: Police turn their backs on de Blasio, again.

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:54 pm
by kalm
GannonFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Here we go again... :ohno:
Then stop doing it then. :roll:
Go read your post again...