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On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:02 pm
by JohnStOnge
For those who argued that the US could not affect oil prices by producing more:
http://theweek.com/article/index/271594 ... e-oil-boom" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:17 pm
by BlueHen86
Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:02 am
by houndawg
BlueHen86 wrote:
Thank you Obama!
..the compassionate, the merciful....
Nationalize American oil today. Get out of the mideast tomorrow.

Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:31 am
by Baldy
BlueHen86 wrote:
Thank you Obama!
Ummm thank you to private property rights, fracking, and North Dakota.

Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:34 pm
by AZGrizFan
houndawg wrote:BlueHen86 wrote:
Thank you Obama!
..the compassionate, the merciful....
Nationalize American oil today. Get out of the mideast tomorrow.

Just imagine how we could impact prices if we actually built the pipeline to bring it to the refineries?
Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:39 pm
by LeadBolt
Drill baby, Drill. Build more pipelines.
Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:00 pm
by JohnStOnge
Not so much the pipeline. The thing is that the oil boom is primarily because of increased production from lands the Federal government does not control. What the Federal government COULD do is facilitate production from Federal lands and Federal waters. Like ANWAR, for instance. That's not all. But that's a big one.
The big thing, though, is that we are seeing things that make it reasonable to believe that the preservationists are full of crap when they say that increasing US oil production won't have any impact on gasoline prices. They've been saying that for years during arguments for things like not tapping ANWAR. I've always thought they're full of sh*t when they say that and what's happening now is consistent with that being the case.
Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:51 am
by Baldy
There is an "Oil War" on the horizon:
At OPEC Meeting, Saudi Arabia Stares Down Texas and North Dakota
On Thanksgiving Day, what used to be the world’s most powerful oil cartel will gather in Vienna to decide how much oil to produce. Right around the time that the Bears and Lions are getting underway at in Detroit, delegates of the 12-member Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries will finish a closed-door meeting and announce to the world how much oil they intend to collectively pump over the next year.
In another setting, a group of people who sell the same product getting together to talk about ways to manipulate prices would be seen as blatant collusion. But this is OPEC—that’s basically the whole point. The founding premise back in 1960 was to wrest control of oil production—and the ability to set prices—from the handful of large Western oil companies that had taken over much of the Mideast after World War II.
By 1973, OPEC controlled roughly 53 percent of the world’s total oil production. That’s why its embargo was so effective in driving up oil prices about 400 percent within a year. Today, however, OPEC’s share of total world production is down to 42 percent, according to data from the Energy Information Agency. This comes as OPEC pumps near-record amounts. For the first time in a long time, the ability to determine the price of oil no longer clearly resides with OPEC. Instead, it’s increasingly U.S. producers at the controls.
This shift has big geopolitical implications, affecting everything from Iran’s nuclear program to the fight against ISIS. And it helps explain why most OPEC members come to the meeting having spent the past few weeks talking about the need for cuts. Venezuela and Ecuador want to “protect prices.” Libya’s wants a cut of 500,000 barrels a day. Iran may propose an overall cut of up to 1 million barrels a day, although “under no circumstance” is it willing to cut itself. Sanctions have taken more than a million barrels of Iran’s production offline since 2012. Its oil minister has vowed that Iran will not cut its production “even by one barrel.”
Russia won’t be in the room. But as the world’s top oil producer, it wants cuts, too. Over the weekend, Russia and Saudi Arabia agreed to cooperate on oil prices. And Russia is reportedly considering joining OPEC in production cuts next year—that is, if the cuts happen at all.
As of Tuesday morning, Nov. 25, traders were starting to bet that whatever cuts OPEC does make on Thursday will be limited at best. Brent oil prices tumbled on midmorning news that a meeting of Venezuela, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, and Russia failed to produce an agreement to coordinate a cut.

Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:41 am
by Chizzang
The crux of the entire global Oil situation is Russian and Chinese production...
The U.S. press loves to make it "All about America" but its really not so much
If China gets is Oil Extraction and Processing up to their projected goals - Saudi Oil global demand drops significantly
In 2010 China became Saudi's largest customer - surpassing the USA for the first time in history
If Saudi looses their two biggest customers (China and USA) because everybody's extracting their own oil
and Russia is picking off the smaller buyers at lower prices... *Ouch
Saudi Arabia is in a little bit of a pinch because we - The USA - use OPEC as a source to drive up demand for our currency as all OPEC transactions are done in US dollars - and in return we play nice with OPEC countries on the global Military scene... So Saudi Arabia is truly in the middle of a deal with the devil

Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:46 am
by Gil Dobie
There are actually rumors of layoffs in North Dakota, because of the oil prices going down.
Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:39 am
by houndawg
AZGrizFan wrote:houndawg wrote:
..the compassionate, the merciful....
Nationalize American oil today. Get out of the mideast tomorrow.

Just imagine how we could impact prices if we actually built the pipeline to bring it to the refineries?
The Keystone is for Canadian oil.
Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:41 am
by houndawg
JohnStOnge wrote:Not so much the pipeline. The thing is that the oil boom is primarily because of increased production from lands the Federal government does not control. What the Federal government COULD do is facilitate production from Federal lands and Federal waters. Like ANWAR, for instance. That's not all. But that's a big one.
The big thing, though, is that we are seeing things that make it reasonable to believe that the preservationists are full of crap when they say that increasing US oil production won't have any impact on gasoline prices. They've been saying that for years during arguments for things like not tapping ANWAR. I've always thought they're full of sh*t when they say that and what's happening now is consistent with that being the case.
Nationalize the oil and let the rest of them bleed each other dry. Put our oil companies to work fvcking somebody else for a change.

Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:03 am
by houndawg
Gil Dobie wrote:There are actually rumors of layoffs in North Dakota, because of the oil prices going down.
Who gets to clean up the mess?
Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:05 am
by CAA Flagship
houndawg wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Just imagine how we could impact prices if we actually built the pipeline to bring it to the refineries?
The Keystone is for Canadian oil.

Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:21 am
by Grizalltheway
He's right. And the reason they want to build it through America is because the Canadians already rejected it.
Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:45 pm
by Gil Dobie
houndawg wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:There are actually rumors of layoffs in North Dakota, because of the oil prices going down.
Who gets to clean up the mess?

Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:48 pm
by Gil Dobie
Grizalltheway wrote:
He's right. And the reason they want to build it through America is because the Canadians already rejected it.

Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:47 pm
by houndawg
American oil for Americans!

Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:04 pm
by LeadBolt
NAFTA oil for NAFTAN's?
Seriously, breaking OPEC's grip on the pricing of oil, lowering oil prices worldwide by increasing supply and decreasing costs of moving oil, will do more for the well being and economic development whole world than anything else.
Now that it has been shown that global warming and climate change have more to do with sunspot and solar flare activity that they do with greenhouse gases, responsible use of fossil fuels is rational. )See the last 15 years).
Now if we could just get the rest of the world to lower their level of greenhouse gases and emissions from the use of fossil fuel to those already attained in the US, wouldn't the world be much better off both economically and environmentally?
Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:13 pm
by BDKJMU
Re: On US oil production affecting oil prices
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:46 am
by DSUrocks07
Gil Dobie wrote:There are actually rumors of layoffs in North Dakota, because of the oil prices going down.
Thanks Obama...oh wait
