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Re: STUDY: Pot Smoking Shrinks The Brain

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Who cares?
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Re: STUDY: Pot Smoking Shrinks The Brain

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travelinman67 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:But your article from the LA times ( Liberal rag!!) proves that it isn't certain.


For a person that doesn't care, you sure are doing a lot of research. Just sayin...
First, the L.A. Times and CNN articles are talking about two different studies discussing two DIFFERENT negative injuries resulting from chronic and casual use.

Second, for someone who rarely reads articles or studies, and virtually NEVER does research to support their opinion, I understand how you might perceive a few minutes of Googling as being ,"...a lot of research."

Just sayin'.
First, I'm not talking about that CNN piece. I read the LA Times article, article from the Independent and a few others all that came to the same conclusion based of the findings in the report.

Second, You sensationalized the first article. You misrepresented the "facts". Based of your Al Gore approach, how can I take anything you post as serious? I'm not even sure you read that article. If you had, you would have learned that the study concluded that it wasn't certain.

Third, you clearly didn't understand what I said by,
For a person that doesn't care, you sure are doing a lot of research.
Then again, you read that LA Times article, read that results aren't conclusive yet you posted a thread and make it sound like it's now accepted science. All the while, cherry picking the study and leaving out the part where due to damage of the brain, that may or not may not be caused my pot, people that toke have brains that have "higher functional and structural connectivity. ” Again, "authors of the study acknowledge that they cannot discern whether a pot smoker's smaller orbital frontal cortex is the cause or the result of chronic marijuana use."

Just sayin'.
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Re: STUDY: Pot Smoking Shrinks The Brain

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CID1990 wrote:
Who cares?
Evidently, T-man does.
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Re: STUDY: Pot Smoking Shrinks The Brain

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Ibanez wrote: ...Second, You sensationalized the first article. You misrepresented the "facts". Based of your Al Gore approach, how can I take anything you post as serious? I'm not even sure you read that article. If you had, you would have learned that the study concluded that it wasn't certain.
From the lead paragraph:
Compared with a person who never smoked marijuana, someone who uses marijuana regularly has, on average, less gray matter in his orbital frontal cortex, a region that is a key node in the brain's reward, motivation, decision-making and addictive behaviors network.
Yeah...I misrepresented. :roll:

Yet, three potheads disagree, so I was mistaken.

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Re: STUDY: Pot Smoking Shrinks The Brain

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travelinman67 wrote:
Ibanez wrote: ...Second, You sensationalized the first article. You misrepresented the "facts". Based of your Al Gore approach, how can I take anything you post as serious? I'm not even sure you read that article. If you had, you would have learned that the study concluded that it wasn't certain.
From the lead paragraph:
Compared with a person who never smoked marijuana, someone who uses marijuana regularly has, on average, less gray matter in his orbital frontal cortex, a region that is a key node in the brain's reward, motivation, decision-making and addictive behaviors network.
Yeah...I misrepresented. :roll:

Yet, three potheads disagree, so I was mistaken.

:thumb:
Again, the article states
Again, "authors of the study acknowledge that they cannot discern whether a pot smoker's smaller orbital frontal cortex is the cause or the result of chronic marijuana use

I'm guessing you never finished the article. You read what you wanted to read, and just quit.

Which potheads? I know you aren't making an ass of yourself and making an assumption that I smoke pot. You would never be so foolish. :roll:
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Re: STUDY: Pot Smokers Have Smaller Brains

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Since you seem concerned that the article misrepresented the study's "ambiguous" findings, I changed the thread title.
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Re: STUDY: Pot Smokers Have Smaller Brains

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travelinman67 wrote:Since you seem concerned that the article misrepresented the study's "ambiguous" findings, I changed the thread title.
I don't care about the title. I just got irked that you read that article and thought it said something it did not. :lol:
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Okay...
So I'm wondering why Marijuana causing "denial" among users is important..?
And I'm still wondering what the actual point is..?

Yes:
We all agree Pot is a drug and drugs are bad
Yes:
Socialized medicine dictates that we care for the sick and damaged

Okay, next...

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Re: STUDY: Pot Smokers Have Smaller Brains

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Chizzang wrote:Okay...
So I'm wondering why Marijuana causing "denial" among users is important..?
And I'm still wondering what the actual point is..?

Yes:
We all agree Pot is a drug and drugs are bad
Yes:
Socialized medicine dictates that we care for the sick and damaged

Okay, next...

:geek:
Screw you.

I'm starting a thread entitled "Ivy Leaguers Have Smaller Brains".

Sourcing Dubya's and Clinton's biographies.
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Watch the last scene from Beetlejuice. Did he smoke weed?
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Ivytalk wrote:Watch the last scene from Beetlejuice. Did he smoke weed?
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Re: STUDY: Pot Smokers Have Smaller Brains

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http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/12/news/co ... ?hpt=hp_t2

This article really doesn't have much to say, but I had to laugh at the picture with it. This is how I picture half you guys...

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89Hen wrote:http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/12/news/co ... ?hpt=hp_t2

This article really doesn't have much to say, but I had to laugh at the picture with it. This is how I picture half you guys...

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This article was a waste of space. It's about a study that came to no definitive conclusion.
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Re: STUDY: Pot Smokers Have Smaller Brains

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"Tman's sooo dumb. He said pot smoking shrinks
the brain! FAIL!!!
It just said our brains are smaller!!
What a loser!

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travelinman67 wrote:"Tman's sooo dumb. He said pot smoking shrinks
the brain! FAIL!!!
It just said our brains are smaller!!
What a loser!

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no you did say that. You titled the thread as such.
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Re: STUDY: Pot Smokers Have Smaller Brains

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Ibanez wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:"Tman's sooo dumb. He said pot smoking shrinks
the brain! FAIL!!!
It just said our brains are smaller!!
What a loser!

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no you did say that. You titled the thread as such.
:dunce:

Your point?
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travelinman67 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:no you did say that. You titled the thread as such.
:dunce:

Your point?
That you can't understand what you read and then get pissy when others point it out to you.

At least I admit my mistakes.
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Re: STUDY: Pot Smokers Have Smaller Brains

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Ibanez wrote:
travelinman67 wrote: :dunce:

Your point?
That you can't understand what you read and then get pissy when others point it out to you.

At least I admit my mistakes.
I never denied saying pot smoking shrinks the brain. The study stated there was insufficient study duration to conclude cause and effect...NOT that there was NO cause and effect correlation...get your facts straight before spewing your blather.

The pothead-meme post was a lighthearted way of underlining that "clarifying" the study's findings to show potheads have small brains, rather than definitively proving the drug shrinks brains is a "victory" a rational person might not seek.

In fairness, I changed the title to reflect what the study had confirmed:"Pot smokers have smaller brains."

And no, I can't recall the last time you admitted a mistake. In fact, you frequently go manic and double down on nonsensical "debate" (emphasis on quotes).

Kinda like when I copy the article title for the thread title and you accuse me of misleading, then waste four pages of posts attempting to spin the relevant content 180°...

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... al+weapons" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Look, I recognize the Trollnique from Kalm and Jellydonut. When you attempt a futile debate, shift the argument, make it personal, mock, run grammar check, ANYTHING but addressing the thesis. I'd hoped you'd observed it doesn't work.
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travelinman67 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
That you can't understand what you read and then get pissy when others point it out to you.

At least I admit my mistakes.
I never denied saying pot smoking shrinks the brain. The study stated there was insufficient study duration to conclude cause and effect...NOT that there was NO cause and effect correlation...get your facts straight before spewing your blather.

The pothead-meme post was a lighthearted way of underlining that "clarifying" the study's findings to show potheads have small brains, rather than definitively proving the drug shrinks brains is a "victory" a rational person might not seek.

In fairness, I changed the title to reflect what the study had confirmed:"Pot smokers have smaller brains."

And no, I can't recall the last time you admitted a mistake. In fact, you frequently go manic and double down on nonsensical "debate" (emphasis on quotes).

Kinda like when I copy the article title for the thread title and you accuse me of misleading, then waste four pages of posts attempting to spin the relevant content 180°...

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... al+weapons" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Look, I recognize the Trollnique from Kalm and Jellydonut. When you attempt a futile debate, shift the argument, make it personal, mock, run grammar check, ANYTHING but addressing the thesis. I'd hoped you'd observed it doesn't work.
You're so full of shit. Haha. You start a thread that smoking pot shrinks the brain and and link an article that doesn't claim it. Defend that. I don't go "manic". You, for some reason, hate it when someone had a difference of opinion. Manic? Dude, you go full retard, convinced of your own moral righteousness.

And I don't give a rats ass what some redneck that bitches about liberals whilst living in California thinks. I find that hypocrisy comical.
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Re: the chemical weapons. I was relaying what the author of article has said. But you, of course, know more then he. Watch some interviews with him and you'll hear from his mouth, these weren't the WMDs we went to war over.

My only mistake was not seeing the fraudulent purchases of mustard gas agents by a Dutchman. Which I say in that thread.

And if I didn't say "my apologies" well so fucking what. The manner in which you conduct yourself isn't that of a rational, reasonable man.
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There's a recent study from the University College of London with a WAY larger sample size and that accounts for other factors.

So the question: Was Tman's amygdala naturally dominant before he started drinking?
Now, a new study out from the University College of London provides even stronger evidence that the Duke findings were flawed. The study draws on a considerably larger sample of adolescents than the Duke research - 2,612 children born in the Bristol area of the U.K. in 1991 and 1992. Researchers examined children's IQ scores at age 8 and again at age 15, and found "no relationship between cannabis use and lower IQ at age 15," when confounding factors - alcohol use, cigarette use, maternal education, and others - were taken into account. Even heavy marijuana use wasn't associated with IQ.

"In particular alcohol use was found to be strongly associated with IQ decline," the authors write. "No other factors were found to be predictive of IQ change."

The UK study does find evidence, however, of slightly impaired educational abilities among the very heaviest marijuana users. This group of students scored roughly 3% lower on school exams taken at age 16, even after adjusting for confounding factors.
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No way! A similar study with different results?!
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Ibanez wrote:... The manner in which you conduct yourself isn't that of a rational, reasonable man.
Yet, consistently, you're one of the first to dive into debate with me...

...every time.

Something's amiss.

Ib, I EMBRACE difference of opinion and debate. Through debate we grow wiser and stronger.

I DO NOT SUPPORT trolling and personal attacks; both, methods used by lazy, uninformed jackasses.

Don't confuse intolerance of ignorance with myopic narcissism.
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travelinman67 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:... The manner in which you conduct yourself isn't that of a rational, reasonable man.
Yet, consistently, you're one of the first to dive into debate with me...

...every time.

Something's amiss.

Ib, I EMBRACE difference of opinion and debate. Through debate we grow wiser and stronger.

I DO NOT SUPPORT trolling and personal attacks; both, methods used by lazy, uninformed jackasses.

Don't confuse intolerance of ignorance with myopic narcissism.
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