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Just announced TODAY. If Sarah does not run, I could EASILY vote for this guy.

Say hello to Dr. Ben Carson, Sr.

Woo Hoo!



http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/meet-ben ... d=26735300

I sure hope Sarah Palin runs. Because having someone even more incompetent than Obama would be a boon for the left.

Vidav wrote:I sure hope Sarah Palin runs. Because having someone even more incompetent than Obama would be a boon for the left.

She's a blowhard, but I don't think we have seen tangible exhibits of her competence yet. She's more of an unknown (although she DOES have experience in governance).

She doesn't have a prayer for the nomination anyway so it is really moot. Carson doesn't have a shot either, but it would be nice to see him go up against her and Christie in the debates. I think he's one of the most level headed candidates we have seen from either party in several years.

Carson has no chance. Why waste the time and money?

Realistically, he's running for Vice President. Republicans should put him or Susana Martinez on the ticket.

Ibanez wrote:Carson has no chance. Why waste the time and money?

I remember a time when the conventional wisdom was that some nearly anonymous, unaccomplished freshman senator from Illinois had no chance of beating Hillary Clinton.

Having said that, you are right. Carson doesn't have and will never have the juice behind him that Obama had. The dark forces don't like people like Carson.

Why would someone announce so early? It don't make sense. A flame out is bound to happen.

CitadelGrad wrote:

Ibanez wrote:Carson has no chance. Why waste the time and money?

I remember a time when the conventional wisdom was that some nearly anonymous, unaccomplished freshman senator from Illinois had no chance of beating Hillary Clinton.

Having said that, you are right. Carson doesn't have and will never have the juice behind him that Obama had. The dark forces don't like people like Carson.

I know i'm right. It has nothing to do with "conventional wisdom" he's a black Republican. You guys aren't ready for that.

andy7171 wrote:Why would someone announce so early? It don't make sense. A flame out is bound to happen.

I'm not looking forward to all the campaigning, that you know will ratchet up in the Spring.

Ibanez wrote:

CitadelGrad wrote:
I remember a time when the conventional wisdom was that some nearly anonymous, unaccomplished freshman senator from Illinois had no chance of beating Hillary Clinton.

Having said that, you are right. Carson doesn't have and will never have the juice behind him that Obama had. The dark forces don't like people like Carson.

I know i'm right. It has nothing to do with "conventional wisdom" he's a black Republican. You guys aren't ready for that.

Well then, it seems the conventional wisdom (if you represent conventional wisdom) is that Republicans are
unwilling to nominate a black Republican. This is where you are wrong. Most Tea Partiers are anxious to vote for a black Republican to prove to MSNBC and the MSM that they aren't really racist.

If South Carolina can elect Scott to the Senate with a pretty significant majority, Republicans across the country are willing to nominate a black Republican. The big question for Carson is whether the GOP big money donors will get behind him. I suspect they won't. They like their puppets as much as Dem big money donors do. Carson doesn't seem to be a puppet kind of guy.

CitadelGrad wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
I know i'm right. It has nothing to do with "conventional wisdom" he's a black Republican. You guys aren't ready for that.

Well then, it seems the conventional wisdom (if you represent conventional wisdom) is that Republicans are
unwilling to nominate a black Republican. This is where you are wrong. Most Tea Partiers are anxious to vote for a black Republican to prove to MSNBC and the MSM that they aren't really racist.

If South Carolina can elect Scott to the Senate with a pretty significant majority, Republicans across the country are willing to nominate a black Republican. The big question for Carson is whether the GOP big money donors will get behind him. I suspect they won't. They like their puppets as much as Dem big money donors do. Carson doesn't seem to be a puppet kind of guy.

Translation: They want to do it out of spite, not because he's qualified.

Ibanez wrote:

CitadelGrad wrote:
Well then, it seems the conventional wisdom (if you represent conventional wisdom) is that Republicans are
unwilling to nominate a black Republican. This is where you are wrong. Most Tea Partiers are anxious to vote for a black Republican to prove to MSNBC and the MSM that they aren't really racist.

If South Carolina can elect Scott to the Senate with a pretty significant majority, Republicans across the country are willing to nominate a black Republican. The big question for Carson is whether the GOP big money donors will get behind him. I suspect they won't. They like their puppets as much as Dem big money donors do. Carson doesn't seem to be a puppet kind of guy.

Translation: They want to do it out of spite, not because he's qualified.

Seems as though you are the one with the entrenched phobias regarding people and race.

Ibanez wrote:

CitadelGrad wrote:
Well then, it seems the conventional wisdom (if you represent conventional wisdom) is that Republicans are
unwilling to nominate a black Republican. This is where you are wrong. Most Tea Partiers are anxious to vote for a black Republican to prove to MSNBC and the MSM that they aren't really racist.

If South Carolina can elect Scott to the Senate with a pretty significant majority, Republicans across the country are willing to nominate a black Republican. The big question for Carson is whether the GOP big money donors will get behind him. I suspect they won't. They like their puppets as much as Dem big money donors do. Carson doesn't seem to be a puppet kind of guy.

Translation: They want to do it out of spite, not because he's qualified.

I wouldn't call it spite. They genuinely like Carson, but their desire to refute charges of racism make them ignore his lack of qualifications for the office. A shared ideology should not trump qualifications.

Cluck U wrote:

Ibanez wrote:

Translation: They want to do it out of spite, not because he's qualified.

Seems as though you are the one with the entrenched phobias regarding people and race.

Yeah. Sure. Tell that to my wife who is white/black. I am so afraid of them that I married a mulatto and had a child with her.

Spoiler: show

Cluck, you like to assume you know people but i'd stay away from making generalizations about people whom you have never met. I don't know shit about you aside from you have a family and enjoy sailing and you know even less about me.

CitadelGrad wrote:

Ibanez wrote:

Translation: They want to do it out of spite, not because he's qualified.

I wouldn't call it spite. They genuinely like Carson, but their desire to refute charges of racism make them ignore his lack of qualifications for the office. A shared ideology should not trump qualifications.

He has no qualifications. At least Obama was in government (and look where that got us.) Sarah Palin has more gov't experience then him and that's not saying much. Is he an intelligent, successful man? Probably. But is he executive material? I'm not sure.


Then again, it would probably be good to have someone like that in the White House.

Ibanez wrote:

CitadelGrad wrote:
I wouldn't call it spite. They genuinely like Carson, but their desire to refute charges of racism make them ignore his lack of qualifications for the office. A shared ideology should not trump qualifications.

He has no qualifications. At least Obama was in government (and look where that got us.) Sarah Palin has more gov't experience then him and that's not saying much. Is he an intelligent, successful man? Probably. But is he executive material? I'm not sure.


Then again, it would probably be good to have someone like that in the White House.

Yeah, he was in government. A state senator of no accomplishment. A rookie U.S. senator of no accomplishment. He's always been a professional negro. Nothing more.

CitadelGrad wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
He has no qualifications. At least Obama was in government (and look where that got us.) Sarah Palin has more gov't experience then him and that's not saying much. Is he an intelligent, successful man? Probably. But is he executive material? I'm not sure.


Then again, it would probably be good to have someone like that in the White House.

Yeah, he was in government. A state senator of no accomplishment. A rookie U.S. senator of no accomplishment. He's always been a professional negro. Nothing more.

Professional negro? Glad you're living in 1953, Cid. Race has nothing to do with this lack of character, leadership and overall ability to lead this nation.

Ibanez wrote:

CitadelGrad wrote:
I remember a time when the conventional wisdom was that some nearly anonymous, unaccomplished freshman senator from Illinois had no chance of beating Hillary Clinton.

Having said that, you are right. Carson doesn't have and will never have the juice behind him that Obama had. The dark forces don't like people like Carson.

I know i'm right. It has nothing to do with "conventional wisdom" he's a black Republican. You guys aren't ready for that.

Who's "you guys"? He's a more intelligent, more conservative, more in-tune Colin Powell.

I'd vote for him in a heartbeat.

CitadelGrad wrote:

Ibanez wrote:

Translation: They want to do it out of spite, not because he's qualified.

I wouldn't call it spite. They genuinely like Carson, but their desire to refute charges of racism make them ignore his lack of qualifications for the office. A shared ideology should not trump qualifications.

It's become painfully obvious in this country that mere lack of qualifications for the office isn't an impediment to actually getting elected.

Ibanez wrote:

Cluck U wrote:


Seems as though you are the one with the entrenched phobias regarding people and race.

Yeah. Sure. Tell that to my wife who is white/black. I am so afraid of them that I married a mulatto and had a child with her.

Spoiler: show

Cluck, you like to assume you know people but i'd stay away from making generalizations about people whom you have never met. I don't know shit about you aside from you have a family and enjoy sailing and you know even less about me.

Plenty of misogynists marry women, and plenty of people with entrenched phobias regarding people and race marry people of other races.

Hint: you should probably stay away from making generalizations about an individual or a group of individuals.

In this case, regarding the Tea Party, you sound like a, "tolerant," Liberal hack.

Cluck U wrote:

Ibanez wrote: Yeah. Sure. Tell that to my wife who is white/black. I am so afraid of them that I married a mulatto and had a child with her.

Spoiler: show

Cluck, you like to assume you know people but i'd stay away from making generalizations about people whom you have never met. I don't know shit about you aside from you have a family and enjoy sailing and you know even less about me.

Plenty of misogynists marry women, and plenty of people with entrenched phobias regarding people and race marry people of other races.

Hint: you should probably stay away from making generalizations about an individual or a group of individuals.

In this case, regarding the Tea Party, you sound like a, "tolerant," Liberal hack.

Whatever you say, Cluckster. All that matters is that I know you're wrong.

I tolerate a lot, probably more so than most liberals or conservatives. Hell, I even allow my views change as they have done concerning abortion. Every group has it's good and bad seeds (some more than others).

Ibanez wrote:

CitadelGrad wrote:
Yeah, he was in government. A state senator of no accomplishment. A rookie U.S. senator of no accomplishment. He's always been a professional negro. Nothing more.

Professional negro? Glad you're living in 1953, Cid. Race has nothing to do with this lack of character, leadership and overall ability to lead this nation.

Of course Obama is a professional negro, just like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. They are community organizers and their profession is their race and identity politics. What has Obama actually done other than trade on his pigmentation? Oh yeah, he's also a constitutional scholar by virtue of his short time at U. Chicago as an instructor.

CitadelGrad wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
Professional negro? Glad you're living in 1953, Cid. Race has nothing to do with this lack of character, leadership and overall ability to lead this nation.

Of course Obama is a professional negro, just like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. They are community organizers and their profession is their race and identity politics. What has Obama actually done other than trade on his pigmentation? Oh yeah, he's also a constitutional scholar by virtue of his short time at U. Chicago as an instructor.

Obama has screwed the American people, does that count?

Say hello to the next Surgeon General or Secretary of Health and Human Services in the next GOP administration. Carson is playing his cards right

Ibanez wrote:I know i'm right. It has nothing to do with "conventional wisdom" he's a black Republican. You guys aren't ready for that.

Define "you guys."

I've voted for African-American Republicans for years (in the primaries, anyway).