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Bad voting machines
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:22 pm
by SuperHornet
Apparently, early voting is turning up instances of voting machines, first in Chicago, and now in a few counties in Maryland, which are forcibly switching Republican votes to Democratic votes, even involving one of the actual candidates attempting to vote for himself.
Now, I'm not going to go so far as to accuse the Democrats of going on a voter fraud rampage as the article does. Until some election official gets caught in a scandal, there's no proof of that. It might just be a glitch in the programming, and it COULD be innocent. In either case, the company producing the machine is at fault, at least until some election official is brought to trial and convicted for either allowing it or demanding it.
But this cr@p has GOT to stop. Innocent or not, it's not a thing ANY voter wants to happen. That's the sort of thing that scares people from the polls....
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/v ... ther-state
Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:30 pm
by travelinman67
SuperHornet wrote:
Now, I'm not going to go so far as to accuse the Democrats of going on a voter fraud rampage...
That's o.k....I will.
Democrats HAVE to cheat to win elections BECAUSE their policies hurt Americans, destroy our social fabric and attack our economy.
Poll after poll shows the majority of Americans are angry about the direction Obama has pointed our nation (70% CNN Poll), and if the 2012 election were rerun, Obama would lose.
Remember this paradigm, and this all makes sense...
...Democrats win elections through voter fraud.

Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:38 am
by andy7171
Voter fraud in Maryland, say it ain't so. Been going on in Baltimore City and PG County for decades. Ho hum.
Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:25 am
by houndawg
SuperHornet wrote:Apparently, early voting is turning up instances of voting machines, first in Chicago, and now in a few counties in Maryland, which are forcibly switching Republican votes to Democratic votes, even involving one of the actual candidates attempting to vote for himself.
Now, I'm not going to go so far as to accuse the Democrats of going on a voter fraud rampage as the article does. Until some election official gets caught in a scandal, there's no proof of that. It might just be a glitch in the programming, and it COULD be innocent. In either case, the company producing the machine is at fault, at least until some election official is brought to trial and convicted for either allowing it or demanding it.
But this cr@p has GOT to stop. Innocent or not, it's not a thing ANY voter wants to happen. That's the sort of thing that scares people from the polls....
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/v ... ther-state
You're just getting around to this now?

Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:27 am
by houndawg
SuperHornet wrote:Apparently, early voting is turning up instances of voting machines, first in Chicago, and now in a few counties in Maryland, which are forcibly switching Republican votes to Democratic votes, even involving one of the actual candidates attempting to vote for himself.
Now, I'm not going to go so far as to accuse the Democrats of going on a voter fraud rampage as the article does. Until some election official gets caught in a scandal, there's no proof of that. It might just be a glitch in the programming, and it COULD be innocent. In either case, the company producing the machine is at fault, at least until some election official is brought to trial and convicted for either allowing it or demanding it.
But this cr@p has GOT to stop. Innocent or not, it's not a thing ANY voter wants to happen.
That's the sort of thing that scares people from the polls....
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/v ... ther-state
Vote suppression always works in conks favor - call it a wash with the machines....?

Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:54 am
by 89Hen
houndawg wrote:Vote suppression always works in conks favor
Why is that?
Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:00 am
by houndawg
Because there are so few of them.
Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:02 am
by 89Hen
houndawg wrote:Because there are so few of them.
That's not what you said.

Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:02 am
by Grizalltheway
89Hen wrote:houndawg wrote:Vote suppression always works in conks favor
Why is that?
Because they suppress poor minorities?
Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:17 am
by 89Hen
Grizalltheway wrote:89Hen wrote:
Why is that?
Because they suppress poor minorities?
That's a question, not an answer.
Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:18 am
by CAA Flagship
89Hen wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:
Because they suppress poor minorities?
That's a question, not an answer.

Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:24 am
by Grizalltheway
89Hen wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:
Because they suppress poor minorities.
That's a question, not an answer.
Happy, Poindexter?

Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:42 am
by 89Hen
Grizalltheway wrote:89Hen wrote:
That's a question, not an answer.
Happy, Poindexter?

So you believe every single poor minority votes Dem. Gotcha.
Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:56 am
by Grizalltheway
89Hen wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:
Happy, Poindexter?

So you believe every single poor minority votes Dem. Gotcha.
Do you not? That's exactly what the last GOP nominee wanted us to believe.

Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:02 am
by dbackjon
SH - way to cherry pick.
Maybe you could widen your gaze and see that this is an issue all around - machines in TEXAS are flipping votes to the GOP.
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/2709 ... 14-edition" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Historically this has been the case.
Historically, over the past decade since we've been covering it (and related issues), this issue has occurred far more often for Democratic voters seeing their votes flip to Republicans. Nonetheless, the opposite phenomenon (as well the scenario involving third party or independent candidates) is not entirely uncommon. And, in all cases, voters should be concerned, election officials should be embarrassed and elected officials who continue to allow the use of these unverifiable secret vote-counting systems --- antithetical to American democracy and public elections as they are --- should beg forgiveness from their constituents, rather than begging for more money and more unverifiable votes.
We need to go back to paper ballots
Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:13 am
by GannonFan
I'm in favor of paper ballots actually.
Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:39 pm
by DSUrocks07
Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:48 pm
by SuperHornet
I wasn't cherry-picking, Jon. That was the article I saw. Given the presence of glitches in TWO places, the presence of a glitch in ANOTHER place doesn't exactly surprise me. Hence my hesitancy to globally accuse the Democrats of intentional voter fraud. There MIGHT be LOCALIZED Democratic voter fraud, but if that's the case, then one would have to consider the possibility that the LOCAL GOP in Texas might be engaging in the same thing.
DSU: You're assuming Florida-style punch tickets. Not every paper ballot is designed like that. Here in Cali, for example, we have Scantron-style paper ballots with felt pens. No chance of a chad issue with a set-up like that....
Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:56 am
by 89Hen
So Mrs89 went to early voting yesterday and she said, you'll never guess what happened. I said "your vote flipped to the wrong candidate?".

Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:06 am
by Grizalltheway
Your
Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:15 am
by 89Hen
Grizalltheway wrote:Your
That too. I blame the cold medicine.

Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:43 am
by GannonFan
Well, I'm not in favor of punched-card voting, if you're going to get into the details.

Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:49 am
by 89Hen
I'm in favor of some sort of IQ test to be eligible to vote. Something like being able to divide 21 by 3.
Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:49 am
by AZGrizFan
89Hen wrote:I'm in favor of some sort of IQ test to be eligible to vote. Something like being able to divide 21 by 3.
Apparently Mensa has different standards than you, Hen.
Re: Bad voting machines
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:00 pm
by GannonFan
89Hen wrote:I'm in favor of some sort of IQ test to be eligible to vote. Something like being able to divide 21 by 3.
I don't get it. How does that equal 6.93?
