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NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:38 pm
by travelinman67
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... apons.html
So many returning soldiers reported finding WMD's in Iraq, despite a "no WMDS" meme having become an accepted narrative by anti-Bush, anti-war protesters.
Now, NY Times confirms numerous incidents of WMD discoveries.
Bush Told Truth, Saved Lives
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:39 am
by travelinman67
Cowardly, dishonest donks hide their heads in shame when confronted with the truth.
"Bush Told The Truth, Saved Lives"
Doesn't rhyme, but more accurate
Re: Bush Told Truth, Saved Lives
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:46 am
by D1B
travelinman67 wrote:
Cowardly, dishonest donks hide their heads in shame when confronted with the truth.
"Bush Told The Truth, Saved Lives"
Doesn't rhyme, but more accurate
Moron uses a pic of a one-legged grasshopper!
Perfect symbol for the hateful loudmouth, always hopping in circles.
Our resident one trick pony.
Re: Bush Told Truth, Saved Lives
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:51 am
by AZGrizFan
D1B wrote:travelinman67 wrote:
Cowardly, dishonest donks hide their heads in shame when confronted with the truth.
"Bush Told The Truth, Saved Lives"
Doesn't rhyme, but more accurate
Moron uses a pic of a one-legged grasshopper!
Perfect symbol for the hateful loudmouth, always hopping in circles.
Our resident one trick pony.

Re: Bush Told Truth, Saved Lives
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:01 am
by D1B
AZGrizFan wrote:D1B wrote:
Moron uses a pic of a one-legged grasshopper!

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Perfect symbol for the hateful loudmouth, always hopping in circles.
Our resident one trick pony.

I'm an act. Tbag really is the hateful conk paranoid Minuteman society drop out.
Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:03 am
by Gil Dobie
Any D1Bola in those shells?
Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:06 am
by YoUDeeMan
Lovely...now our friends in ISIS, along with their Saudi handlers, have these shells.
Fun times ahead.

Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:21 am
by travelinman67
Cluck U wrote:Lovely...now our friends in ISIS, along with their Saudi handlers, have these shells.
Fun times ahead.

They were destroyed...including 448 sarin gas rocket warheads.
My big question...why has the Pentagon kept this information (and continues to keep a large portion) classified?
In the wake of investigatory Congressional hearings specifically looking into the recovery of WMD's, why wasn't this information made public sooner?
As recent as 2011, chemical weapons were discovered in hidden caches, yet the Pentagon decides releasing that information would jeopardize national security?
Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:22 am
by Skjellyfetti
This isn't anything that hasn't been known for a long time.
Saddam abandoned his WMD programs in the early 90s and did not restart them.
He didn't have "mobile WMD labs." Sanctions and UN inspections WORKED and an invasion was NOT necessary.

Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:31 am
by travelinman67
Skjellyfetti wrote:...Sanctions and UN inspections WORKED and an invasion was NOT necessary.

No, they clearly DID NOT! Post Desert Storm UN accord required Saddam to destroy his chemical weapons: He obviously had not. Hundreds of intact "active" chemical weapons including nerve agent were found stored in munition bunkers.
Read the report, Revisionist.
Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:53 am
by CAA Flagship
travelinman67 wrote:
My big question...why has the Pentagon kept this information (and continues to keep a large portion) classified?
In the wake of investigatory Congressional hearings specifically looking into the recovery of WMD's, why wasn't this information made public sooner?
As recent as 2011, chemical weapons were discovered in hidden caches, yet the Pentagon decides releasing that information would jeopardize national security?
It is possible that they knew they would not find all of them, and saying that they found "some" would cause a huge Easter Egg hunt by radical militants and the three major Iraqi sects. Obama clearly had this information, yet he pulled out the troops that could have somewhat controlled them. ISIS has found some. I wonder if the Iraqi government knew about them. They may have been told by the US that they were destroyed.
Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:24 am
by houndawg
CAA Flagship wrote:travelinman67 wrote:
My big question...why has the Pentagon kept this information (and continues to keep a large portion) classified?
In the wake of investigatory Congressional hearings specifically looking into the recovery of WMD's, why wasn't this information made public sooner?
As recent as 2011, chemical weapons were discovered in hidden caches, yet the Pentagon decides releasing that information would jeopardize national security?
It is possible that they knew they would not find all of them, and saying that they found "some" would cause a huge Easter Egg hunt by radical militants and the three major Iraqi sects. Obama clearly had this information, yet he pulled out the troops that could have somewhat controlled them.
ISIS has found some. I wonder if the Iraqi government knew about them. They may have been told by the US that they were destroyed.
ISIS is more likely to fvck up and kill their own people with them.
Re: Bush Told Truth, Saved Lives
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:26 am
by houndawg
D1B wrote:
I'm an act. Tbag really is the hateful conk paranoid Minuteman society drop out.
teabaggedby67 has gone full JSO and started believing his own bullshit...

Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:54 am
by GannonFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:This isn't anything that hasn't been known for a long time.
Saddam abandoned his WMD programs in the early 90s and did not restart them.
He didn't have "mobile WMD labs." Sanctions and UN inspections WORKED and an invasion was NOT necessary.

Darn NY Times and their consistent conk-leanings.

Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:01 am
by Skjellyfetti
GannonFan wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:This isn't anything that hasn't been known for a long time.
Saddam abandoned his WMD programs in the early 90s and did not restart them.
He didn't have "mobile WMD labs." Sanctions and UN inspections WORKED and an invasion was NOT necessary.

Darn NY Times and their consistent conk-leanings.

Not at all what I said or intended to imply.
T-man takes an article and runs with it arguing something that the article does not claim.
From a conservative point of view (with an honest assessment of the NYT article):
It isn’t quite news that there are non-negligible numbers of chemical weapons left in Iraq, but Chivers’s story suggests they are much more numerous and more widely dispersed than had been disclosed.
Moreover, many of the weapons were developed or bought by Iraq with U.S. help, when Saddam Hussein was fighting Iran in the 1980s.
The existence of these weapons doesn’t affect the debate over the war’s justification either way: They’re not evidence that Saddam Hussein was, as proponents of the war contended, in the process of resuming chemical-weapons production or starting other WMD programs.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/39 ... ck-brennan" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:19 am
by dbackjon
Tbag fails to mention that these are REAGAN ERA weapons of AMERICAN design and and many of AMERICAN MANUFACTURE
Rummy/GHWB/Cheney knew they were there because THEY GAVE THEM TO SADDAM.
And, they were so degraded, they were useless.
Iraq was not a threat to the US.
So again, Conktards show how fucking ignorant they are, and how they don't GIVE A DAMN about our troops.
Bush did lie, and Hundreds of thousands did die.
FUCK BUSH, CHENEY, RUMMY.
Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:20 am
by dbackjon
Game, set and match Liberals.
Tbag fails miserably AGAIN.
Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:20 am
by travelinman67
Skjellyfetti wrote:
The existence of these weapons doesn’t affect the debate over the war’s justification either way: They’re not evidence that Saddam Hussein was, as proponents of the war contended, in the process of resuming chemical-weapons production or starting other WMD programs.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/39 ... ck-brennan" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Nice try, Mr. Revisionist...
...misrepresentation by quoting out of context.
The sentence immediately following your quote:
... But on the other hand, as the existence of thousands of hidden or mislabeled chemical-weapons munitions reported in Chivers’s article could suggest, Saddam was clearly not complying with United Nations requirements about exposing and dismantling his chemical-weapons stores, which was the legal justification for the war.
Jellydonut
FAIL!!
Re: Bush Told Truth, Saved Lives
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:24 am
by AZGrizFan
D1B wrote:
I'm an act. Tbag really is the hateful conk paranoid Minuteman society drop out.
Then you should get a fucking Oscar.

Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:25 am
by AZGrizFan
dbackjon wrote:Game, set and match Liberals.
Tbag fails miserably AGAIN.
Claiming your own victory again, Jon?

Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:27 am
by travelinman67
dbackjon wrote:Tbag fails to mention that these are REAGAN ERA weapons of AMERICAN design and and many of AMERICAN MANUFACTURE
Rummy/GHWB/Cheney knew they were there because THEY GAVE THEM TO SADDAM.
Source?
Once again, you clearly have not read the article or the FOIA Pentagon documents. (SURPRISE!!)
The munitions were IRAQ proprietary design. Not even Soviet.
D1Back...
FAIL!!!
Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:37 am
by travelinman67
"Don't stop digging, Dback. It'll need to be deep enough to fit all of us."
"Shut up or dig it yourself, Jelly!"

Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:41 am
by dbackjon
travelinman67 wrote:dbackjon wrote:Tbag fails to mention that these are REAGAN ERA weapons of AMERICAN design and and many of AMERICAN MANUFACTURE
Rummy/GHWB/Cheney knew they were there because THEY GAVE THEM TO SADDAM.
Source?
Once again, you clearly have not read the article or the FOIA Pentagon documents. (SURPRISE!!)
The munitions were IRAQ proprietary design. Not even Soviet.
D1Back...
FAIL!!!
Your own damn article, Zbag.
Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:59 am
by travelinman67
dbackjon wrote:travelinman67 wrote:
Source?
Once again, you clearly have not read the article or the FOIA Pentagon documents. (SURPRISE!!)
The munitions were IRAQ proprietary design. Not even Soviet.
D1Back...
FAIL!!!
Your own damn article, Zbag.
NEGATIVE, D1Backjon.
Try again.
Re: NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:40 am
by YoUDeeMan
travelinman67 wrote:Cluck U wrote:Lovely...now our friends in ISIS, along with their Saudi handlers, have these shells.
Fun times ahead.

They were destroyed...including 448 sarin gas rocket warheads.
Huh?
Do you read your own sources?
The article clearly said that the one large site, where the weapons were left to the Iraqis to entomb, had NOT, been cleared. Yup, the weapons are still there...and now in the hands of ISIS.
And you think all of the bad munitions have been found and accounted for?
The Iraqis certainly know where they hid the munitions...and now some of them are revisiting those areas in order to gather some goodies for use elsewhere.
As I said, good times ahead for everyone in that area.
