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NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:07 pm
by 93henfan
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/opini ... .html?_r=0
He set objectives for which he had no plan. He made commitments he did not keep. In the way of the world these things were noticed. Enemies probed. Allies were neglected, until they were needed to face the decapitators who talked of a Caliphate and called themselves a state. Words like “strength” and “resolve” returned to the leader’s vocabulary. But the world was already adrift, unmoored by the retreat of its ordering power. The rule book had been ripped up.
http://nypost.com/2014/09/14/obamas-ship-is-sinking/
He is sinking fast and could soon pass the point of no return. In fact, it may already be too late to save the SS Obama. The whole second term has been a string of disasters, with the toxic brew of his ObamaCare lies, middling economic growth and violent global breakdown casting doubt on the president’s stewardship. Six years into his tenure, nothing is going as promised. Earlier on, he could have trotted out his teleprompters and turned public opinion his way, or at least stopped the damage. But the magic of his rhetoric is long gone, and not just because the public has tuned him out. They’ve tuned him out because they’ve made up their minds about him. They no longer trust him and don’t think he’s a good leader.
The president’s problem is that he has been wrong about virtually every major issue. His worldview, his politics, his prejudices, his habits — they’ve been a mismatch for the country and its needs. He has been a dud even in the one area where he seemed a lock to make things better, racial relations. Only 10 percent believe race relations have improved under him, while 35 percent said they are worse, according to a New York Times survey.
That’s shocking — but not surprising. Barack Obama was not ready to be president, and still isn’t. It is a fantasy to believe he’ll master the art in his final two years. The lasting image will be his yukking it up on the golf course minutes after giving a perfunctory speech on the beheading of James Foley. It revealed him as hollow, both to America and the world, and there is no way to un-see the emptiness.

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:35 pm
by Chizzang
This one is SPOT ON..!!!

"The president’s problem is that he has been wrong about virtually every major issue. His worldview, his politics, his prejudices, his habits — they’ve been a mismatch for the country and its needs. He has been a dud even in the one area where he seemed a lock to make things better, racial relations."

This ^ a hundred times this
And I thought he was exactly what this country needed - turns out * Jill Stein was a better vote

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:58 pm
by travelinman67
Dbackalmfettihen86 to deflect in 3-2-

Densedawg to blame Bush.

Any bets?

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:14 pm
by Wedgebuster
We go from asshattery to enhanced asshattery every 4 or 8 years. You think 'Bama was bad, just wait for the response to him.

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Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:55 pm
by SDHornet
travelinman67 wrote:Dbackalmfettihen86 to deflect in 3-2-

Densedawg to blame Bush.

Any bets?
If enough people take this bet, you can retire tomorrow.

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:10 pm
by Wedgebuster
So, ok, just who is the next POTUS dufus?

Twitter your responses to your clitter, otherwise, post here.

:mrgreen:

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:21 pm
by kalm
Chizzang wrote:This one is SPOT ON..!!!

"The president’s problem is that he has been wrong about virtually every major issue. His worldview, his politics, his prejudices, his habits — they’ve been a mismatch for the country and its needs. He has been a dud even in the one area where he seemed a lock to make things better, racial relations."

This ^ a hundred times this
And I thought he was exactly what this country needed - turns out * Jill Stein was a better vote
Dare I say (again)…he's a reflection on America? :mrgreen:

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:36 pm
by travelinman67
kalm wrote:
Chizzang wrote:This one is SPOT ON..!!!

"The president’s problem is that he has been wrong about virtually every major issue. His worldview, his politics, his prejudices, his habits — they’ve been a mismatch for the country and its needs. He has been a dud even in the one area where he seemed a lock to make things better, racial relations."

This ^ a hundred times this
And I thought he was exactly what this country needed - turns out * Jill Stein was a better vote
Dare I say (again)…he's a reflection on America? :mrgreen:
Negative. He's a reflection of the people who voted for an entitlement, pro-black, nanny state, anti-white, government.

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:40 pm
by kalm
travelinman67 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Dare I say (again)…he's a reflection on America? :mrgreen:
Negative. He's a reflection of the people who voted for an entitlement, pro-black, nanny state, anti-white, government.
Oh, is that what I voted for in '08? :lol:

I wish I would have voted for McPalin then. :ohno:

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:51 pm
by Chizzang
travelinman67 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Dare I say (again)…he's a reflection on America? :mrgreen:
Negative. He's a reflection of the people who voted for an entitlement, pro-black, nanny state, anti-white, government.
Hmmm.... This ^ is a curious statement T-man
I would argue that he turned out to be just another politician - which is a little less dramatic
but still damning in its own right


:nod:

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:30 pm
by CID1990
Wedgebuster wrote:We go from asshattery to enhanced asshattery every 4 or 8 years. You think 'Bama was bad, just wait for the response to him.

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Says the guy who is going to vote for the sleazy lawyer (who married up) in the next election

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:53 pm
by AZGrizFan
kalm wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
Negative. He's a reflection of the people who voted for an entitlement, pro-black, nanny state, anti-white, government.
Oh, is that what I voted for in '08? :lol:

I wish I would have voted for McPalin then. :ohno:
You and 40,000,000 other Americans.

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:57 pm
by grizzaholic
AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Oh, is that what I voted for in '08? :lol:

I wish I would have voted for McPalin then. :ohno:
You and 40,000,000 other Americans.
AZ. 40 million might be a little light.

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:24 pm
by travelinman67
Chizzang wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
Negative. He's a reflection of the people who voted for an entitlement, pro-black, nanny state, anti-white, government.
Hmmm.... This ^ is a curious statement T-man
I would argue that he turned out to be just another politician - which is a little less dramatic
but still damning in its own right


:nod:
Hmmm...This ^ is a curious response Hippie.
I would point out that my statement clearly states what the people thought they were voting for, not what they got. Most people Conk and Donk agree Obama sold one product, but failed to deliver.

:nod:

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:39 pm
by YoUDeeMan
kalm wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
Negative. He's a reflection of the people who voted for an entitlement, pro-black, nanny state, anti-white, government.
Oh, is that what I voted for in '08? :lol:

I wish I would have voted for McPalin then. :ohno:
You put the clown in office...and there he has stayed for at least 6 years.

You owe the rest of the country an apology. :nod: :lol:

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:10 am
by CAA Flagship
Cluck U wrote:
kalm wrote:
Oh, is that what I voted for in '08? :lol:

I wish I would have voted for McPalin then. :ohno:
You put the clown in office...and there he has stayed for at least 6 years.

You owe the rest of the country an apology. :nod: :lol:
Along with those who were against Obama and didn't vote for McPalin or Romney.








:tiptoe:

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:56 am
by 93henfan
No need to sneak away Flaggy. I am a complete tard, because I voted once each for the two worst Presidents of my lifetime (Bush in 2000 and Obama in 2008). I did not vote in 2012 because I lost any faith in my ability to select candidates, and I doubt I will ever vote again.

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:23 am
by Chizzang
travelinman67 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Hmmm.... This ^ is a curious statement T-man
I would argue that he turned out to be just another politician - which is a little less dramatic
but still damning in its own right


:nod:
Hmmm...This ^ is a curious response Hippie.
I would point out that my statement clearly states what the people thought they were voting for, not what they got. Most people Conk and Donk agree Obama sold one product, but failed to deliver.

:nod:

That's a completely different statement than your original loony statement...
I see you can reel it back in when necessary

:coffee:

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:16 am
by UNI88
CAA Flagship wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
You put the clown in office...and there he has stayed for at least 6 years.

You owe the rest of the country an apology. :nod: :lol:
Along with those who were against Obama and didn't vote for McPalin or Romney.

:tiptoe:
First, I live in Illinois so my vote was irrelevant. Obama was going to carry Illinois' electoral votes.

Second, while the Obama presidency has been a complete failure, I'm not sure that McPalin would have been better and it might have been worse. I do think Romney was a proven leader, manager, administrator and would have been a better choice. Unfortunately he ran an uninspiring campaign.

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:38 am
by CAA Flagship
UNI88 wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Along with those who were against Obama and didn't vote for McPalin or Romney.

:tiptoe:
First, I live in Illinois so my vote was irrelevant. Obama was going to carry Illinois' electoral votes.

Second, while the Obama presidency has been a complete failure, I'm not sure that McPalin would have been better and it might have been worse. I do think Romney was a proven leader, manager, administrator and would have been a better choice. Unfortunately he ran an uninspiring campaign.
Uninspiring? That is being kind. The Republicans haven't run a good campaign since the Carter administration did it for them. Unfortunately, the Donks still have the trust of the morons. They won't bite the hand that feeds them. It's a brilliant strategy that will lead to the fall of another great empire. :ohno: :ohno:

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:54 am
by GannonFan
UNI88 wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Along with those who were against Obama and didn't vote for McPalin or Romney.

:tiptoe:
First, I live in Illinois so my vote was irrelevant. Obama was going to carry Illinois' electoral votes.

Second, while the Obama presidency has been a complete failure, I'm not sure that McPalin would have been better and it might have been worse. I do think Romney was a proven leader, manager, administrator and would have been a better choice. Unfortunately he ran an uninspiring campaign.
Same here, I have no buyer's regret at casting my vote for Obama in 2008 - even now, knowing what those first four years gave us, I would still vote for him over McCain.

And yeah, Romney certainly had and still has a lot of skills that Obama sorely needs as it relates to being a President, unfortunately, like you said, Romney's campaign was just bad. And if you can't put a decent campaign together, it does beg the question of whether you deserve the Presidency anyway.

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:55 am
by GannonFan
CAA Flagship wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
First, I live in Illinois so my vote was irrelevant. Obama was going to carry Illinois' electoral votes.

Second, while the Obama presidency has been a complete failure, I'm not sure that McPalin would have been better and it might have been worse. I do think Romney was a proven leader, manager, administrator and would have been a better choice. Unfortunately he ran an uninspiring campaign.
Uninspiring? That is being kind. The Republicans haven't run a good campaign since the Carter administration did it for them. Unfortunately, the Donks still have the trust of the morons. They won't bite the hand that feeds them. It's a brilliant strategy that will lead to the fall of another great empire. :ohno: :ohno:
Bush's campaign in 2000 wasn't bad. Of course, a lot of that was based upon Gore just flat out blowing his own campaign, but the GOP campaign that year was certainly credible if not good.

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:57 am
by Ibanez
GannonFan wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
First, I live in Illinois so my vote was irrelevant. Obama was going to carry Illinois' electoral votes.

Second, while the Obama presidency has been a complete failure, I'm not sure that McPalin would have been better and it might have been worse. I do think Romney was a proven leader, manager, administrator and would have been a better choice. Unfortunately he ran an uninspiring campaign.
Same here, I have no buyer's regret at casting my vote for Obama in 2008 - even now, knowing what those first four years gave us, I would still vote for him over McCain.

And yeah, Romney certainly had and still has a lot of skills that Obama sorely needs as it relates to being a President, unfortunately, like you said, Romney's campaign was just bad. And if you can't put a decent campaign together, it does beg the question of whether you deserve the Presidency anyway.
Agreed. I don't regret my Obama vote in 2008.


Or my Johnson vote in 2012.

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:49 pm
by 89Hen
Chizzang wrote:I would argue that he turned out to be just another politician - which is a little less dramatic
but still damning in its own right
Is this where we get to say I told you so?

Re: NYT and NYP Takes On The Obama Presidency

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:52 pm
by AZGrizFan
Ibanez wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Same here, I have no buyer's regret at casting my vote for Obama in 2008 - even now, knowing what those first four years gave us, I would still vote for him over McCain.

And yeah, Romney certainly had and still has a lot of skills that Obama sorely needs as it relates to being a President, unfortunately, like you said, Romney's campaign was just bad. And if you can't put a decent campaign together, it does beg the question of whether you deserve the Presidency anyway.
Agreed. I don't regret my Obama vote in 2008.


Or my Johnson vote in 2012.
How can you not regret your 2008 vote? Was he smart, and then became an idiot?