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The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:18 am
by andy7171
I'd be interested in what some of us CS.com'ers have to say about this...
The Fairytale of the Victimhood
I recently read an article entitled “What Black Parents Tell Their Sons About the Police” and I began to ponder the downward spiral in race relations over the past five years. According to the author Jazmine Hughes:
“Such is the burden of black parenting. Being a black parent, especially of a black boy, comes with the added onus of having to protect your child from a country that is out to get him -- a country that kills someone that looks like him every 28 hours, a country that will likely imprison him by his mid-thirties if he doesn't get his high school diploma, a country that is more than twice as likely to suspend him from school than a white classmate. “
By the way, this author does not have any Black sons, or any children at all, but she promises that she will and when that momentous birth occurs, she will raise them in fear of the cops. She somehow believes that it is inevitable that failure will visit the Black boy or man and these events are beyond his/her control. She is certain of the inevitable “victimhood” of Black people -- especially Black men. It is beyond their control to graduate from high school and not engage in activities that will encourage suspension from school, arrest, or incarceration.
This point of view is bolstered by journalists who write things such as “80 percent of the traffic violations in this town are waged against Black people” while neglecting to tell you that 90 percent of the town's population is Black. Or when they report that “2/3 of all suspensions are of Black children” while neglecting to mention that the school might be 78 percent black and 22 percent Hispanic. The reality is that in many of the inner city public schools, there are little to no white children to suspend.
There is no mention of personal responsibility, familial responsibility or objectivity. Such is the culture of victim-hood.
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It's a good read.
Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:19 am
by andy7171
So, if you have the victim, you have to have the “victimizer”. In contrast to the previous article is one written by a mother and author Elizabeth Broadbent. This article is entitled “A Mother's White Privilege” and as you can tell from the title, it comes from a different angle, the author is White, her children are White, she has a great deal of guilt about this “condition” (her whiteness), or so she says…. But she comes to the same conclusion -- Black men are victims and that people of her race, in specifics the white men are the aggressors and victimizers.
In the piece, the author revels in her view that her blond and “various shades of pinkish-white” sons with their blue or green or greenish-blue eyes are the embodiment of “The Man”. It seems that in this woman's mind, Black men, beginning in boyhood, are racing through the streets as if “deer hunting season” was replaced by “Black boy hunting season”. . . According to her:
“My boys will carry a burden of privilege with them always. They will be golden boys, inoculated by a lack of melanin and all its social trapping against the problems faced by black America.”
She peppers her story with pictures of the pink, golden boys.
I have a question for this mother: “If your blond sons were strong-arming and robbing that store owner would they be allowed to get away with that because of their "white privilege"? The answer is no. I am certain that among the 6,578,133 white men arrested in 2011, some had blonde hair and pink skin.
Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:12 am
by YoUDeeMan
My SIL,

, keeps talking about White Privilege (focusing, of course, on men) as if she is preaching the Bible.
She hates me when I challenge her silly notions with facts...then just blurbs, "well, you don't understand...people like me can't get to the top because of men like you."
I respond that she can't get to the top because she's an azz who won't take any responsibility for herself and her actions, and that publicly spewing hatred toward white men, or anyone, is not a behavior that is wanted in any leadership position (except for Lesbian organizations, and kkklean's homies).
Her hatred of me makes me feel privileged.

Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:25 pm
by AZGrizFan
Cluck U wrote:
My SIL,

, keeps talking about White Privilege (focusing, of course, on men) as if she is preaching the Bible.
She hates me when I challenge her silly notions with facts...then just blurbs, "well, you don't understand...people like me can't get to the top because of men like you."
I respond that she can't get to the top because she's an azz
who won't take any responsibility for herself and her actions, and that publicly spewing hatred toward white men, or anyone, is not a behavior that is wanted in any leadership position (except for Lesbian organizations, and kkklean's homies).
Her hatred of me makes me feel privileged.

Taking responsibility for your actions is so 1950's.

Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:47 pm
by Pwns
I don't doubt that there's racism out there (e.g. housing discrimination, "driving while black", "shopping while black", etc.).
My problem comes when this stuff and slavery and segregation becomes an excuse for
all the social problems with blacks and an excuse for why well-off black kids need to have a leg up on poor white kids in affirmative action college admissions. I've been around more black people than probably all of the northeast and west coast liberal whites who live in defacto segregated communities. In school the black kids misbehaved more and are more apathetic and less motivated than the white kids with school work. I've seen many times where a black kid who raises his hand to answer a question gets picked on by his peers. I also know a depressing number of black women who are busting ass to take care of kids with a baby daddy (or two or three) who isn't present and isn't paying a dime of child support. These are problems that won't be fixed by eliminating racism.
It's also ridiculous how Ferguson has become about race when no one can really give any good reasoning why Brown wouldn't have been shot if he was white. I can buy that George Zimmerman wouldn't have followed Trayvon if he weren't black, but not the Brown shooting. All of the race-baiting Sharpton and Holder are doing is really putting gas in the fire.
Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:06 pm
by 93henfan
^
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Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:19 pm
by AZGrizFan
Pwns wrote:
It's also ridiculous how Ferguson has become about race when no one can really give any good reasoning why Brown wouldn't have been shot if he was white. I can buy that George Zimmerman wouldn't have followed Trayvon if he weren't black, but not the Brown shooting. All of the race-baiting Sharpton and Holder are doing is really putting gas in the fire.
Dude, if they don't keep that fire going, who will? It's how they make a fucking LIVING--keeping that fire burning. The fact that the majority of black people eat that shit up is what's REALLY depressing.

Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:47 pm
by Chizzang
AZGrizFan wrote:Pwns wrote:
It's also ridiculous how Ferguson has become about race when no one can really give any good reasoning why Brown wouldn't have been shot if he was white. I can buy that George Zimmerman wouldn't have followed Trayvon if he weren't black, but not the Brown shooting. All of the race-baiting Sharpton and Holder are doing is really putting gas in the fire.
Dude, if they don't keep that fire going, who will? It's how they make a fucking LIVING--keeping that fire burning. The fact that the majority of black people eat that shit up is what's REALLY depressing.

What else are "the black people" supposed to believe..?
I don't blame the average person - that's like blaming somebody for being Catholic - there's a 99% chance they were completely indoctrinated with no free will of their own. A Child's mind can be turned into a crazy Muslim or a devout Catholic or an angry disenfranchised black male
I wouldn't be quick to blame the average person walking around...
There's been a long process and a painful history
its really easy to create angry people (See Islam) (See Creationists like Seattlegriz

)

Be kind (and rewind)
Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:49 pm
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Dude, if they don't keep that fire going, who will? It's how they make a fucking LIVING--keeping that fire burning. The fact that the majority of black people eat that shit up is what's REALLY depressing.

What else are "the black people" supposed to believe..?
I don't blame the average person - that's like blaming somebody for being Catholic - there's a 99% chance they were completely indoctrinated with no free will of their own. A Child's mind can be turned into a crazy Muslim or a devout Catholic or an angry disenfranchised black male
I wouldn't be quick to blame the average person walking around...
There's been a long process and a painful history
its really easy to create angry people (See Islam) (See Creationists like Seattlegriz

)

Be kind (and rewind)
I DO rewind my DVDs and bluerays, thank you very little.
Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:19 pm
by CID1990
AZGrizFan wrote:Chizzang wrote:
What else are "the black people" supposed to believe..?
I don't blame the average person - that's like blaming somebody for being Catholic - there's a 99% chance they were completely indoctrinated with no free will of their own. A Child's mind can be turned into a crazy Muslim or a devout Catholic or an angry disenfranchised black male
I wouldn't be quick to blame the average person walking around...
There's been a long process and a painful history
its really easy to create angry people (See Islam) (See Creationists like Seattlegriz

)

Be kind (and rewind)
I DO rewind my DVDs and bluerays, thank you very little.
SG isn't angry.
He's smug
There's a lot of that going around in here
Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:56 pm
by kalm
So does this mean the reverse victimhood of white males is also a myth?

Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:44 pm
by Chizzang
kalm wrote:So does this mean the reverse victimhood of white males is also a myth?

Oh...no no no...

that is totally real just ask our resident Banker AZ
The poor guy has been discriminated against his whole life (just ask him)
Plus he went to school in Idaho (seriously f_ck that)

that's like choosing to live in Utah and not being a professional skier or snowboarder
Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:14 pm
by 93henfan
Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:53 pm
by CAA Flagship
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Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:04 pm
by andy7171
kalm wrote:So does this mean the reverse victimhood of white males is also a myth?

What is reverse victim hood?
Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:21 am
by 93henfan
andy7171 wrote:kalm wrote:So does this mean the reverse victimhood of white males is also a myth?

What is reverse victim hood?
White privilege. And shit.
Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:26 am
by kalm
andy7171 wrote:kalm wrote:So does this mean the reverse victimhood of white males is also a myth?

What is reverse victim hood?
The oppression...of us.
Come on man, fight the power!
Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:11 am
by 89Hen
Chizzang wrote:A Child's mind can be turned into a crazy Muslim or a devout Catholic or an angry disenfranchised black male
Thanks for lumping those three together.
Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:43 am
by Chizzang
89Hen wrote:Chizzang wrote:A Child's mind can be turned into a crazy Muslim or a devout Catholic or an angry disenfranchised black male
Thanks for lumping those three together.
Name three things you would NOT be if left to your own devices growing up for $500 Bob

Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:57 am
by 89Hen
Chizzang wrote:89Hen wrote:
Thanks for lumping those three together.
Name three things you would NOT be if left to your own devices growing up for $500 Bob

FWIW, we have adult Catechumens in our church every year.
Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:14 am
by Chizzang
89Hen wrote:Chizzang wrote:
Name three things you would NOT be if left to your own devices growing up for $500 Bob

FWIW, we have adult Catechumens in our church every year.
Pfffft....

Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:53 am
by Pwns
kalm wrote:So does this mean the reverse victimhood of white males is also a myth?

"Victimhood" would be too strong a word to use, but the difference is that discrimination against whites is legal. Regardless of circumstances it is okay to favor approved minority groups over whites cuz slavery Jim Crow diversity.
There are plenty of double standards against whites I could go on and on about, but they aren't holding me or any other white folks back.
Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:34 am
by kalm
Pwns wrote:kalm wrote:So does this mean the reverse victimhood of white males is also a myth?

"Victimhood" would be too strong a word to use, but the difference is that discrimination against whites is legal. Regardless of circumstances it is okay to favor approved minority groups over whites cuz slavery Jim Crow diversity.
There are plenty of double standards against whites I could go on and on about, but they aren't holding me or any other white folks back.
Yep. And there are advantages you've had being white.
I was singling out folks who have ever uttered something similar to the phrase 'white men are becoming a disadvantaged minority'...
Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:56 am
by andy7171
Re: The Fairytale of the Victimhood
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:16 pm
by 93henfan
andy7171 wrote:

I'd love to give him the chance to test that.
No comment on the butchered grammar on the shirt. Negroes are exempt from having to speak proper English.