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Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:53 pm
by Chizzang
The new Testament is fairly littered with Angels coming down and having detailed conversations with notable biblical characters... Why don't angels come and visit us anymore like they used to?
And incredible Miracles... they used to happen all the time
Jesus performed over three dozen with no assistance in the New Testament and God himself (the big guy) had a staggering list of doozies like parting seas and turning people into pillars of salt, Talking Donkey's and knocking down the towing walls of Jericho as well as holding the sun and moon in place
50,000 enemy soldiers dropped dead on sight of the Ark one afternoon
These ^ are MAJOR miracles
Why is GOD so different today..?
Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:05 pm
by HI54UNI
Speak for yourself. I wake up next to an angel every day.

Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:19 pm
by travelinman67
Climate Change.

Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:24 pm
by andy7171
Depends on what you define an angel. I've seen many
Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:32 pm
by HI54UNI
Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:33 pm
by HI54UNI
Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:34 pm
by HI54UNI
Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:34 pm
by HI54UNI
Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:14 pm
by CAA Flagship
Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:27 pm
by Ivytalk

Every time D1B farts, an angel dies.
Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:30 pm
by D1B
Good question, wrong audience. Even Joltin Joe doesnt believe in the Jesus and god in the books of the bible.
Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:36 pm
by houndawg
Chizzang wrote:The new Testament is fairly littered with Angels coming down and having detailed conversations with notable biblical characters...
Why don't angels come and visit us anymore like they used to?
And incredible Miracles... they used to happen all the time
Jesus performed over three dozen with no assistance in the New Testament and God himself (the big guy) had a staggering list of doozies like parting seas and turning people into pillars of salt, Talking Donkey's and knocking down the towing walls of Jericho as well as holding the sun and moon in place
50,000 enemy soldiers dropped dead on sight of the Ark one afternoon
These ^ are MAJOR miracles
Why is GOD so different today..?
They went back to the mothership.
Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:40 pm
by kalm
1920's Spain, unexplainable light in the sky, 70,000 witnesses. Look it up!
Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:03 pm
by CID1990
They visit SG all the time. He'll be in the next bible.
3000 years from now we'll have people arguing that he invented humans.
Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:01 pm
by YoUDeeMan
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You don't hang around the right people, Chiz.

Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:33 am
by JoltinJoe
First, there are claims of angels appearing today. There was a great article in Time magazine some years ago about it. And then there are the accounts of the Battle of Mons in 1914 -- if St. Michael and an army of angels did not intervene, then this incident represents a serious case of collective delusion, given how many English troops claim to have witnessed the intervention. Granted, the whole incident can be viewed as fictitious, but still, it is a legend which has certainly taken on a life of its own with many witnesses insisting they saw the intervention.
Second, miracles occur every day. In fact, I know someone who is experiencing a rather miraculous recovery from a surgical procedure after receiving the Anointing of the Sick from a priest -- a priest who had previously performed the Anointing of the Sick on a brain cancer patient. Immediately, her cancer went into remission and disappeared. In the more recent case, the patient's doctors are saying his recovery from an intrusive intestinal surgery seems "inexplicable" in that he is demonstrating digestive functionality the doctors deemed nearly impossible. The prior case was widely reported when it occurred some years back.
Keep in mind there is likely a rational explanation for what is called a "miracle" -- it is just that our learning and knowledge has progressed to the point of explaining the cause or reason of the cure. For example, just as we don't know what the "trigger" is which causes many illnesses or diseases, we don't know whether there is a "trigger" which might cause a cure. The cancer patient mentioned above was immediately placed on a multi-hour flight, flying in excess of 35,000 feet for several hours, to undergo ground-breaking treatment being performed at a highly specialized hospital. Did the flight "trigger" a cause? If it did, we don't know why. However, perhaps the miracle was that God placed her in circumstances which -- unknown to man -- trigger a remission of brain cancer.
Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:43 am
by CAA Flagship
JoltinJoe wrote: In the more recent case, the patient's doctors are saying his recovery from an intrusive intestinal surgery seems "inexplicable" in that he is demonstrating digestive functionality the doctors deemed nearly impossible.

Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:54 am
by Grizalltheway
CAA Flagship wrote:JoltinJoe wrote: In the more recent case, the patient's doctors are saying his recovery from an intrusive intestinal surgery seems "inexplicable" in that he is demonstrating digestive functionality the doctors deemed nearly impossible.

I look forward to many years with the triangles.
Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:11 am
by Chizzang
JoltinJoe wrote:First, there are claims of angels appearing today. There was a great article in Time magazine some years ago about it. And then there are the accounts of the Battle of Mons in 1914 -- if St. Michael and an army of angels did not intervene, then this incident represents a serious case of collective delusion, given how many English troops claim to have witnessed the intervention. Granted, the whole incident can be viewed as fictitious, but still, it is a legend which has certainly taken on a life of its own with many witnesses insisting they saw the intervention.
Second, miracles occur every day. In fact, I know someone who is experiencing a rather miraculous recovery from a surgical procedure after receiving the Anointing of the Sick from a priest -- a priest who had previously performed the Anointing of the Sick on a brain cancer patient. Immediately, her cancer went into remission and disappeared. In the more recent case, the patient's doctors are saying his recovery from an intrusive intestinal surgery seems "inexplicable" in that he is demonstrating digestive functionality the doctors deemed nearly impossible. The prior case was widely reported when it occurred some years back.
Keep in mind there is likely a rational explanation for what is called a "miracle" -- it is just that our learning and knowledge has progressed to the point of explaining the cause or reason of the cure. For example, just as we don't know what the "trigger" is which causes many illnesses or diseases, we don't know whether there is a "trigger" which might cause a cure. The cancer patient mentioned above was immediately placed on a multi-hour flight, flying in excess of 35,000 feet for several hours, to undergo ground-breaking treatment being performed at a highly specialized hospital. Did the flight "trigger" a cause? If it did, we don't know why. However, perhaps the miracle was that God placed her in circumstances which -- unknown to man -- trigger a remission of brain cancer.

You are the best Joe... Thank you
So you would agree that God has changed his tactics of parting seas and turning humans into pillars of salt and is moving to a more subtle approach - more nuanced...

Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:18 am
by andy7171
Chizzang wrote:JoltinJoe wrote:First, there are claims of angels appearing today. There was a great article in Time magazine some years ago about it. And then there are the accounts of the Battle of Mons in 1914 -- if St. Michael and an army of angels did not intervene, then this incident represents a serious case of collective delusion, given how many English troops claim to have witnessed the intervention. Granted, the whole incident can be viewed as fictitious, but still, it is a legend which has certainly taken on a life of its own with many witnesses insisting they saw the intervention.
Second, miracles occur every day. In fact, I know someone who is experiencing a rather miraculous recovery from a surgical procedure after receiving the Anointing of the Sick from a priest -- a priest who had previously performed the Anointing of the Sick on a brain cancer patient. Immediately, her cancer went into remission and disappeared. In the more recent case, the patient's doctors are saying his recovery from an intrusive intestinal surgery seems "inexplicable" in that he is demonstrating digestive functionality the doctors deemed nearly impossible. The prior case was widely reported when it occurred some years back.
Keep in mind there is likely a rational explanation for what is called a "miracle" -- it is just that our learning and knowledge has progressed to the point of explaining the cause or reason of the cure. For example, just as we don't know what the "trigger" is which causes many illnesses or diseases, we don't know whether there is a "trigger" which might cause a cure. The cancer patient mentioned above was immediately placed on a multi-hour flight, flying in excess of 35,000 feet for several hours, to undergo ground-breaking treatment being performed at a highly specialized hospital. Did the flight "trigger" a cause? If it did, we don't know why. However, perhaps the miracle was that God placed her in circumstances which -- unknown to man -- trigger a remission of brain cancer.

You are the best Joe... Thank you
So you would agree that God has changed his tactics of parting seas and turning humans into pillars of salt and is moving to a more subtle approach - more nuanced...

We're in the New Testament.
Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:40 am
by VictorG
Want to see more Angels? Legalize pot!

Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:20 am
by D1B
JoltinJoe wrote:First, there are claims of angels appearing today. There was a great article in Time magazine some years ago about it. And then there are the accounts of the Battle of Mons in 1914 -- if St. Michael and an army of angels did not intervene, then this incident represents a serious case of collective delusion, given how many English troops claim to have witnessed the intervention. Granted, the whole incident can be viewed as fictitious, but still, it is a legend which has certainly taken on a life of its own with many witnesses insisting they saw the intervention.
Second, miracles occur every day. In fact, I know someone who is experiencing a rather miraculous recovery from a surgical procedure after receiving the Anointing of the Sick from a priest -- a priest who had previously performed the Anointing of the Sick on a brain cancer patient. Immediately, her cancer went into remission and disappeared. In the more recent case, the patient's doctors are saying his recovery from an intrusive intestinal surgery seems "inexplicable" in that he is demonstrating digestive functionality the doctors deemed nearly impossible. The prior case was widely reported when it occurred some years back.
Keep in mind there is likely a rational explanation for what is called a "miracle" -- it is just that our learning and knowledge has progressed to the point of explaining the cause or reason of the cure. For example, just as we don't know what the "trigger" is which causes many illnesses or diseases, we don't know whether there is a "trigger" which might cause a cure. The cancer patient mentioned above was immediately placed on a multi-hour flight, flying in excess of 35,000 feet for several hours, to undergo ground-breaking treatment being performed at a highly specialized hospital. Did the flight "trigger" a cause? If it did, we don't know why. However, perhaps the miracle was that God placed her in circumstances which -- unknown to man -- trigger a remission of brain cancer.
Yet god does nothing to stop the daily murder of thousands in the Middle East, or the millions who starve to death. Nothing.
Nice post, Joe.
Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:29 am
by D1B
JoltinJoe wrote:First, there are claims of angels appearing today. There was a great article in Time magazine some years ago about it. And then there are the accounts of the Battle of Mons in 1914 -- if St. Michael and an army of angels did not intervene, then this incident represents a serious case of collective delusion, given how many English troops claim to have witnessed the intervention. Granted, the whole incident can be viewed as fictitious, but still, it is a legend which has certainly taken on a life of its own with many witnesses insisting they saw the intervention.
Second, miracles occur every day. In fact, I know someone who is experiencing a rather miraculous recovery from a surgical procedure after receiving the Anointing of the Sick from a priest -- a priest who had previously performed the Anointing of the Sick on a brain cancer patient. Immediately, her cancer went into remission and disappeared. In the more recent case, the patient's doctors are saying his recovery from an intrusive intestinal surgery seems "inexplicable" in that he is demonstrating digestive functionality the doctors deemed nearly impossible. The prior case was widely reported when it occurred some years back.
Keep in mind there is likely a rational explanation for what is called a "miracle" -- it is just that our learning and knowledge has progressed to the point of explaining the cause or reason of the cure. For example, just as we don't know what the "trigger" is which causes many illnesses or diseases, we don't know whether there is a "trigger" which might cause a cure. The cancer patient mentioned above was immediately placed on a multi-hour flight, flying in excess of 35,000 feet for several hours, to undergo ground-breaking treatment being performed at a highly specialized hospital. Did the flight "trigger" a cause? If it did, we don't know why. However, perhaps the miracle was that God placed her in circumstances which -- unknown to man -- trigger a remission of brain cancer.
So god is more concerned about Joe's friend than he is about the thousands being slaughtered in wars right now.

Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:40 am
by CAA Flagship
Re: Angels... Why don't we see them anymore?
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:41 am
by D1B
JoltinJoe wrote:First, there are claims of angels appearing today. There was a great article in Time magazine some years ago about it. And then there are the accounts of the Battle of Mons in 1914 -- if St. Michael and an army of angels did not intervene, then this incident represents a serious case of collective delusion, given how many English troops claim to have witnessed the intervention. Granted, the whole incident can be viewed as fictitious, but still, it is a legend which has certainly taken on a life of its own with many witnesses insisting they saw the intervention.
Second, miracles occur every day. In fact, I know someone who is experiencing a rather miraculous recovery from a surgical procedure after receiving the Anointing of the Sick from a priest -- a priest who had previously performed the Anointing of the Sick on a brain cancer patient. Immediately, her cancer went into remission and disappeared. In the more recent case, the patient's doctors are saying his recovery from an intrusive intestinal surgery seems "inexplicable" in that he is demonstrating digestive functionality the doctors deemed nearly impossible. The prior case was widely reported when it occurred some years back.
Keep in mind there is likely a rational explanation for what is called a "miracle" -- it is just that our learning and knowledge has progressed to the point of explaining the cause or reason of the cure. For example, just as we don't know what the "trigger" is which causes many illnesses or diseases, we don't know whether there is a "trigger" which might cause a cure. The cancer patient mentioned above was immediately placed on a multi-hour flight, flying in excess of 35,000 feet for several hours, to undergo ground-breaking treatment being performed at a highly specialized hospital. Did the flight "trigger" a cause? If it did, we don't know why. However, perhaps the miracle was that God placed her in circumstances which -- unknown to man -- trigger a remission of brain cancer.
God intervenes (poorly) in an early wwi battle, yet utterly fails to do anything to stop the next 4 years' unparalleled violence, killing and suffering. Also does nothing to ensure this brutal war doesn't become the catalyst for another one.