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Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:03 am
by expandspanos
Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor In "The Land Of The Free"

By the late 1920s, Joseph Stalin became the unchallenged leader of the Soviet Union after having eliminated his opposition.

He topped it off in 1929 by serving a decisive blow to anyone that would dare to oppose him by outlawing private gun ownership in the country.

From that year on until 1953 when Stalin died, it’s estimated that more than 20 million Soviet citizens that were seen as a threat to the country’s leadership.

People were rounded up and either murdered outright, or sent to infamous gulag labor camps.

Stalin is an extreme case. But history is ripe with examples of governments which disarm their citizens, only to engage in serious oppression afterwards.

Communist China. Nazi Germany. Cambodia. Guatemala. Uganda. The list goes on and on. Pacification of the citizens is almost always a prerequisite to totalitarianism.

There have been a lot of attempts to disarm, or at least partially disarm, people in the US throughout history as well.

Each time there’s a major shooting somewhere, the chant to ban firearms grows louder.

But the latest proposal is especially telling.

H.R. 5344 is a bill currently going through Congress that would ban the purchase of body armor.

Violation would carry CRIMINAL penalties, including up to ten years in prison.

Many bullet-resistant items on the market now, such as bulletproof backpacks for school children, would be banned by this legislation.

This is incredible given that the legislation is all about banning something that is purely defensive.

Whatever your stance on firearms, I hope we can agree that it’s pretty damn difficult to hurt another human being with body armor.

People buy body armor for protection. That’s the point. Duh.

So why in the world would they want to ban it?

The government claims that “criminals and rampaging madmen” can “wreak havoc” while wearing body armor, and it’s important to shield police from these nefarious individuals.

Uh, wait a sec– you mean the same police that go around terrorizing ordinary citizens who aren’t breaking any laws whatsoever?

The same police who beat homeless people to death?

The same police who shoot and kill innocent animals in broad daylight in the middle of the street?

The same police who scream “I will f***ing kill you!” with their weapons trained on crowds of protestors exercising their constitutional rights?

Right. Those guys.

This is such a disgusting, yet unfortunately predictable, turn of events in the Land of the Free.

It’s enraging. It’s infuriating. And it’s so obvious: the country has become a giant police state. And the trend is not getting any better.

It’s time to set aside emotion. It’s time to set aside a lifetime of propaganda and programming telling you that you live in a free country.

It’s time to look at the objective evidence all around you.

They spy. They steal. They wage illegal wars. They authorize military detention of civilians. They assassinate citizens.

They intimidate. They terrorize. They torture. They suspend due process when it suits. They destroy anyone who challenges them.

And now they want to take away a non-violent means of protecting yourself.

This is our reality. And at a minimum, it’s time for rational, thinking people to come up with a Plan B. What’s yours?

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Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:06 am
by CAA Flagship
What if Lawrence Bown had body armor on?


Answer: 29 pages of posts down the drain.

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:19 am
by andy7171
Handguns and body armor are already banned in Baltimore City. How's that working?

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:31 am
by HI54UNI
The bill is proposed by a Democrat. Shocking! :ohno: :ohno:

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts ... -civilians

Are you going to actively campaign against this guy this fall or just bitch about it on internet message boards?

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:00 pm
by expandspanos
HI54UNI wrote:The bill is proposed by a Democrat. Shocking! :ohno: :ohno:

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts ... -civilians

Are you going to actively campaign against this guy this fall or just bitch about it on internet message boards?
That seems a little flippant UNI.. (BTW very much looking up to our teams' home-and-homes coming up)..

The most imporant thing is getting a conversation going, and letting people know this was even proposed.

I doubt many Americans have any clue this legislation is even happening- I try and alert people who will listen, but those are few. I will continue to try and warn my fellow Americans about this and a lot of other subjects, but it's hard seeing as how many have been brainwashed by porno, patriotism and pasttimes.

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:38 am
by Ibanez
Do we need body armor? Seriously.

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:54 am
by CitadelGrad
Ibanez wrote:Do we need body armor? Seriously.
Do we need police forces that look like mechanized infantry divisions?

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:31 am
by houndawg
CitadelGrad wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Do we need body armor? Seriously.
Do we need police forces that look like mechanized infantry divisions?
:notworthy:

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:36 am
by Col Hogan
Ibanez wrote:Do we need body armor? Seriously.
Let me quickly check the Bill of Needs.....





I don't see anything preventing ownership....

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:33 pm
by andy7171
Ibanez wrote:Do we need body armor? Seriously.
I double dog dare you to walk down Greenmont ave from North Ave at 10pm without it.

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:34 pm
by DSUrocks07
CitadelGrad wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Do we need body armor? Seriously.
Do we need police forces that look like mechanized infantry divisions?
:+1:

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:35 pm
by DSUrocks07
houndawg wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
Do we need police forces that look like mechanized infantry divisions?
:notworthy:
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Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:18 pm
by andy7171
DSUrocks07 wrote:
houndawg wrote:
:notworthy:
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The one inthe right isn't scared shitless returning fire. That fucking Offc GoFuckYouself was peeing his pants!

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:19 pm
by andy7171
Scared should be replaced with confident.

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:30 pm
by HI54UNI
CitadelGrad wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Do we need body armor? Seriously.
Do we need police forces that look like mechanized infantry divisions?
+6.93

:notworthy:

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:36 pm
by kalm
HI54UNI wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
Do we need police forces that look like mechanized infantry divisions?
+6.93

:notworthy:
I agree. So you guys ( especially c-grad) must support the protestors in Ferguson...and the Black Panthers right to carry, and all the darkies forming black right to carry groups...?

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:43 pm
by AZGrizFan
Ibanez wrote:Do we need body armor? Seriously.
You gonna start tellin' me how big my house can be? How fast my car can go?

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:06 am
by CitadelGrad
kalm wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
+6.93

:notworthy:
I agree. So you guys ( especially c-grad) must support the protestors in Ferguson...and the Black Panthers right to carry, and all the darkies forming black right to carry groups...?
Most of the protestors in Ferguson are dumbasses and quite a few of them are thugs.

If the Black Panthers wish to carry, they can do so as long as they have legally purchased the guns, do not carry them in a threatening manner, and are not convicted felons, on parole or probation and have no outstanding warrants.

Why the fuck would they need right to black right to carry groups? Every American citizen who is not a convicted felon and has no outstanding warrants can carry.

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:30 am
by YoUDeeMan
CitadelGrad wrote:
kalm wrote:
I agree. So you guys ( especially c-grad) must support the protestors in Ferguson...and the Black Panthers right to carry, and all the darkies forming black right to carry groups...?
Most of the protestors in Ferguson are dumbasses and quite a few of them are thugs.

If the Black Panthers wish to carry, they can do so as long as they have legally purchased the guns, do not carry them in a threatening manner, and are not convicted felons, on parole or probation and have no outstanding warrants.

Why the fuck would they need right to black right to carry groups? Every American citizen who is not a convicted felon and has no outstanding warrants can carry.
Ignore kalm...his favorite bait is race. :nod:

Dude is going to get his own cable TV show to wail against the white, conservative establishment. Expect kkklean to be a frequent guest...with Chiz as the regular guest with the, "alternative" point of view. :lol:

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:52 am
by kalm
Cluck U wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
Most of the protestors in Ferguson are dumbasses and quite a few of them are thugs.

If the Black Panthers wish to carry, they can do so as long as they have legally purchased the guns, do not carry them in a threatening manner, and are not convicted felons, on parole or probation and have no outstanding warrants.

Why the fuck would they need right to black right to carry groups? Every American citizen who is not a convicted felon and has no outstanding warrants can carry.
Ignore kalm...his favorite bait is race. :nod:

Dude is going to get his own cable TV show to wail against the white, conservative establishment. Expect kkklean to be a frequent guest...with Chiz as the regular guest with the, "alternative" point of view. :lol:
My favorite bait depends on the situation…

Spring creek: mayfly emerger with a soft hackle on the dropper.

Freestone: elk hair caddis with a bead head pheasant tail or hare's ear on the dropper.

Lake (trout): Halloween or egg sucking leach.

Lake (bass): Sneaky Pete

CS Conks: Tie between Reagan, Obama the conk, establishmentism, the free market.

If I had a show, it would feature a panel with revolving guests. Contributors would include AZ playing the role of Steve Doucy, Ibanez playing the role of Tucker Carlson, 86hen, UNI88, and OLFU as conservative voices of reason, Ivy as George Will, CID1990 as Charles Krauthammer, BDK as Sean Hannity, Tman as Michael Savage, 89 as Grover Norquist, Baldy as Limbaugh, Chizzy as Sarah Silverman, DBack as Dan Savage, TJ as Mumia Abu Jamal, and Cluck as Bill O'reilly.

:tothehand:

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:43 am
by YoUDeeMan
kalm wrote:
My favorite bait depends on the situation…

Spring creek: mayfly emerger with a soft hackle on the dropper.

Freestone: elk hair caddis with a bead head pheasant tail or hare's ear on the dropper.

Lake (trout): Halloween or egg sucking leach.

Lake (bass): Sneaky Pete

CS Conks: Tie between Reagan, Obama the conk, establishmentism, the free market.

If I had a show, it would feature a panel with revolving guests. Contributors would include AZ playing the role of Steve Doucy, Ibanez playing the role of Tucker Carlson, 86hen, UNI88, and OLFU as conservative voices of reason, Ivy as George Will, CID1990 as Charles Krauthammer, BDK as Sean Hannity, Tman as Michael Savage, 89 as Grover Norquist, Baldy as Limbaugh, Chizzy as Sarah Silverman, DBack as Dan Savage, TJ as Mumia Abu Jamal, and Cluck as Bill O'reilly.

:tothehand:
:lol:

That was a lot of work, and probably funny. :clap:

Love the Sarah Silverman/Chiz part (although I don't know who she is). :clap:

One large error, though (there might be more, but I honestly don't know the vast majority of the names you listed):

No one would EVER think of 86 as a reasonable conservative. :?

You must have meant Gannonfan...you left him out. Or DSU. :thumb:

Now, for the truth...

Never heard of these people: Steve Doucy, Tucker Carlson, Michael Savage, Sarah Silverman, Dan Savage, Mumia Abu Jamal

Heard of these two, but could not identify them by face...and I really can't recall them saying or writing anything specific: Charles Krauthammer, Grover Norquist

Could ID a picture, heard short sound clips of (usually stupid stuff), but I haven't listened to: Limbaugh

Could ID a picture, and have listened to this guy less than a half dozen times. He seems smug, but I don't have enough info to judge him: Bill O'Rielly

I think I saw this guy on a video (supplied by a poster here on one of the threads) ranting about the cattle rancher thing. Guy was a dork screaming about communists...Chicoms, or something like that: Sean Hannity

This guy, I've read a book of his and I watched him when he was on some PBS talk show way back when. AIso used to read several columns of his in the newspaper. I think he is intelligent and well spoken :thumb: : George Will

But, glad you went with the bait theme. :thumb:

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:04 am
by AZGrizFan
Cluck U wrote:
kalm wrote:
My favorite bait depends on the situation…

Spring creek: mayfly emerger with a soft hackle on the dropper.

Freestone: elk hair caddis with a bead head pheasant tail or hare's ear on the dropper.

Lake (trout): Halloween or egg sucking leach.

Lake (bass): Sneaky Pete

CS Conks: Tie between Reagan, Obama the conk, establishmentism, the free market.

If I had a show, it would feature a panel with revolving guests. Contributors would include AZ playing the role of Steve Doucy, Ibanez playing the role of Tucker Carlson, 86hen, UNI88, and OLFU as conservative voices of reason, Ivy as George Will, CID1990 as Charles Krauthammer, BDK as Sean Hannity, Tman as Michael Savage, 89 as Grover Norquist, Baldy as Limbaugh, Chizzy as Sarah Silverman, DBack as Dan Savage, TJ as Mumia Abu Jamal, and Cluck as Bill O'reilly.

:tothehand:
:lol:

That was a lot of work, and probably funny. :clap:

Love the Sarah Silverman/Chiz part (although I don't know who she is). :clap:

One large error, though (there might be more, but I honestly don't know the vast majority of the names you listed):

No one would EVER think of 86 as a reasonable conservative. :?

You must have meant Gannonfan...you left him out. Or DSU. :thumb:

Now, for the truth...

Never heard of these people: Steve Doucy, Tucker Carlson, Michael Savage, Sarah Silverman, Dan Savage, Mumia Abu Jamal

Heard of these two, but could not identify them by face...and I really can't recall them saying or writing anything specific: Charles Krauthammer, Grover Norquist

Could ID a picture, heard short sound clips of (usually stupid stuff), but I haven't listened to: Limbaugh

Could ID a picture, and have listened to this guy less than a half dozen times. He seems smug, but I don't have enough info to judge him: Bill O'Rielly

I think I saw this guy on a video (supplied by a poster here on one of the threads) ranting about the cattle rancher thing. Guy was a dork screaming about communists...Chicoms, or something like that: Sean Hannity

This guy, I've read a book of his and I watched him when he was on some PBS talk show way back when. AIso used to read several columns of his in the newspaper. I think he is intelligent and well spoken :thumb: : George Will

But, glad you went with the bait theme. :thumb:
Googling Steve Douchey as we speak to see who I'm being compared with. :tothehand:

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:07 am
by Ibanez
Cluck U wrote:
kalm wrote:
My favorite bait depends on the situation…

Spring creek: mayfly emerger with a soft hackle on the dropper.

Freestone: elk hair caddis with a bead head pheasant tail or hare's ear on the dropper.

Lake (trout): Halloween or egg sucking leach.

Lake (bass): Sneaky Pete

CS Conks: Tie between Reagan, Obama the conk, establishmentism, the free market.

If I had a show, it would feature a panel with revolving guests. Contributors would include AZ playing the role of Steve Doucy, Ibanez playing the role of Tucker Carlson, 86hen, UNI88, and OLFU as conservative voices of reason, Ivy as George Will, CID1990 as Charles Krauthammer, BDK as Sean Hannity, Tman as Michael Savage, 89 as Grover Norquist, Baldy as Limbaugh, Chizzy as Sarah Silverman, DBack as Dan Savage, TJ as Mumia Abu Jamal, and Cluck as Bill O'reilly.

:tothehand:
:lol:

That was a lot of work, and probably funny. :clap:

Love the Sarah Silverman/Chiz part (although I don't know who she is). :clap:

One large error, though (there might be more, but I honestly don't know the vast majority of the names you listed):

No one would EVER think of 86 as a reasonable conservative. :?

You must have meant Gannonfan...you left him out. Or DSU. :thumb:

Now, for the truth...

Never heard of these people: Steve Doucy, Tucker Carlson, Michael Savage, Sarah Silverman, Dan Savage, Mumia Abu Jamal

Heard of these two, but could not identify them by face...and I really can't recall them saying or writing anything specific: Charles Krauthammer, Grover Norquist

Could ID a picture, heard short sound clips of (usually stupid stuff), but I haven't listened to: Limbaugh

Could ID a picture, and have listened to this guy less than a half dozen times. He seems smug, but I don't have enough info to judge him: Bill O'Rielly

I think I saw this guy on a video (supplied by a poster here on one of the threads) ranting about the cattle rancher thing. Guy was a dork screaming about communists...Chicoms, or something like that: Sean Hannity

This guy, I've read a book of his and I watched him when he was on some PBS talk show way back when. AIso used to read several columns of his in the newspaper. I think he is intelligent and well spoken :thumb: : George Will

But, glad you went with the bait theme. :thumb:
Tucker Carlson was popular like, 8 or 10 years ago. He wore bowties. :geek:

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:33 pm
by YoUDeeMan
AZGrizFan wrote:
Googling Steve Douchey as we speak to see who I'm being compared with. :tothehand:
Pass Steve Douchey on the left hand side...? :suspicious:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFtLONl4cNc[/youtube]

Re: Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor for Americans

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:58 pm
by JohnStOnge
Ibanez wrote:Do we need body armor? Seriously.
I would say that we really do need a situation in which the national government does not have a monopoly on weaponry. We really do need a situation in which successful armed revolution is always feasible. We don't have it now. But we should.

Yes I know that's shocking. But that's what the original idea was. The central government should never be in the position to feel like the citizenry cannot overthrow it. The whole basis for our existence as a country is that the People have the right to overthrow the government, violently if necessary, should that become necessary.

We are, after all, a nation established through violent revolution with a founding document written to justify such violent revolution if necessary.