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POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:56 pm
by Chizzang
Please take a moment and select the closest thing to where you are right now in your life...
And please add as many annoying commen

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:00 pm
by D1B
Left out a key option:

Pantheism - the belief that the universe (or nature as the totality of everything) is identical with divinity,[1] or that everything composes an all-encompassing, immanent God. Pantheists are not arrogant and thus do not believe in a distinct personal, ridiculous, silly or anthropomorphic god.

Queefs, stick to snarky and self deprecating comments.

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:22 pm
by travelinman67
D1B wrote:Left out a key option:

Pantheism - the belief that the universe (or nature as the totality of everything) is identical with divinity,[1] or that everything composes an all-encompassing, immanent God. Pantheists are not arrogant and thus do not believe in a distinct personal, ridiculous, silly or anthropomorphic god.
Hippie Unitarian...aka, "I am God".

Fits you perfectly.

:coffee:

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:07 am
by Ivytalk
I chose "moderately faithful." I still regularly attend church in the denomination that I grew up in, and I believe in the creed of that faith and appreciate the traditions of its liturgy. However, I don't believe in the "inerrancy of Scripture," particularly the Old Testament. I'm more of a New Testament guy. ;)

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:46 am
by JoltinJoe
Option 1 is ambiguous.

Does it mean that everything in the Bible is literally true?

Does it mean that the Bible is the Word of God, allegorical in many respects, while representing and recounting an evolving relationship between mankind and its Creator, Redeemer, and Sustainer?

Also, the Old Testament contains the civil law of Moses, which is not the law of God, at least according to Christianity since its earliest days.

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:21 am
by HI54UNI
Another option - I don't care but I'm not a douchebag that has to make fun of other people's beliefs.

:coffee:

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:24 am
by kalm
Baptized and confirmed Lutheran.

Now I'm somewhere between Wanna be (but I'm not necessarily searching for a "religion") and agnostic (but I don't think discussing it is futile, rather I like discussing religion quite a bit).

Like D, I find pantheism and all the nature based religions that fit under pantheism's umbrella very interesting

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:29 am
by Ibanez
kalm wrote:Baptized and confirmed Lutheran.

Now I'm somewhere between Wanna be (but I'm not necessarily searching for a "religion") and agnostic (but I don't think discussing it is futile, rather I like discussing religion quite a bit).

Like D, I find pantheism and all the nature based religions that fit under pantheism's umbrella very interesting
Swap out "Luthern" for "Catholic" and that's me. But i don't go seeking any god or religion. Deism is interesting to me.

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:32 am
by Pwns
On certain aspects of belief I am "religious lite" and sometimes maybe sacrilegious. In other aspects I probably seem like a fundamentalist, and won't apologize for it..

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:37 am
by kalm
Ibanez wrote:
kalm wrote:Baptized and confirmed Lutheran.

Now I'm somewhere between Wanna be (but I'm not necessarily searching for a "religion") and agnostic (but I don't think discussing it is futile, rather I like discussing religion quite a bit).

Like D, I find pantheism and all the nature based religions that fit under pantheism's umbrella very interesting
Swap out "Luthern" for "Catholic" and that's me. But i don't go seeking any god or religion. Deism is interesting to me.
Yeah, deism might describe me best.

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:41 am
by Ivytalk
kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Swap out "Luthern" for "Catholic" and that's me. But i don't go seeking any god or religion. Deism is interesting to me.
Yeah, deism might describe me best.
We'll just start calling you the Voltaire of the Palouse. 8-)

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:58 am
by LeadBolt
The first option is virtually impossible.

If you believe the Bible is the Word of God, then you most likely believe what it says in Romans 3:23 "All have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God", you understand no one can be completely faithful.

I've never truly understood what "Bible Inerrancy" is. There are many forms of literature in the Bible including allegories, parables, and symbolic portrayal of events.

I consider the Bible God's Word, but certainly don't understand it all, and believe no one else can either. I consider myself faithful, but I'm not completely faithful and believe no one is capable of being completely faithful.

Christianity, imho is about God's grace through the atoning death and resurrection of Jesus, the Messiah.

Constructive criticism is appreciated, disparagement is expected.

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:36 am
by andy7171
I would have liked a "I believe and don't want to talk about it. And neither should you."

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:58 am
by kalm
andy7171 wrote:I would have liked a "I believe and don't want to talk about it. And neither should you."
Why?

Talking about it and even having challenged either strengthens your faith or forces some perhaps uncomfortable but important questions.

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:32 am
by Grizalltheway
kalm wrote:
andy7171 wrote:I would have liked a "I believe and don't want to talk about it. And neither should you."
Why?

Talking about it and even having challenged either strengthens your faith or forces some perhaps uncomfortable but important questions.
Nah. Much easier to stick your head in the sand and not upset your parents. :coffee:

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:51 am
by JoltinJoe
Isn't Deism an incomplete answer/process?

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:52 am
by Ivytalk
JoltinJoe wrote:Isn't Deism an incomplete answer/process?
JJ, I know you're dying to answer your own question, but don't go all JSO on us.

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:56 am
by JoltinJoe
Ivytalk wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:Isn't Deism an incomplete answer/process?
JJ, I know you're dying to answer your own question, but don't go all JSO on us.
:lol:

Former Deist. Pretty much described me in my later high school and early college years.

I will say this. I find it ironic that so many people who so frequently cite Occam's Razor don't see the evident simplicity in a god who takes your form and explains everything to you. Isn't that the perfect God?

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:18 am
by 93henfan
God damn this thread!

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:20 am
by andy7171
Grizalltheway wrote:
kalm wrote:
Why?

Talking about it and even having challenged either strengthens your faith or forces some perhaps uncomfortable but important questions.
Nah. Much easier to stick your head in the sand and not upset your parents. :coffee:
This is why Kalms. The world is full of assholes. It a relationship between me and him. I'm living my life and struggling. Raising my girls as best I can. My dad was heartbroken when I refused to be confirmed and elated when I did when I was 23. I try to be like him everyday. But fail. My faith keeps me going to be better. Good enough?

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:24 am
by 93henfan
andy7171 wrote:My dad was heartbroken when I refused to be confirmed

That's crazy! You should never spurn the mafia like that. You're lucky you didn't get capped in the back of the grape. You a brave mofo!

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:31 am
by Grizalltheway
andy7171 wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Nah. Much easier to stick your head in the sand and not upset your parents. :coffee:
This is why Kalms. The world is full of assholes. It a relationship between me and him. I'm living my life and struggling. Raising my girls as best I can. My dad was heartbroken when I refused to be confirmed and elated when I did when I was 23. I try to be like him everyday. But fail. My faith keeps me going to be better. Good enough?
Ignored.

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:42 am
by Grizalltheway
andy7171 wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Nah. Much easier to stick your head in the sand and not upset your parents. :coffee:
This is why Kalms. The world is full of assholes. It a relationship between me and him. I'm living my life and struggling. Raising my girls as best I can. My dad was heartbroken when I refused to be confirmed and elated when I did when I was 23. I try to be like him everyday. But fail. My faith keeps me going to be better. Good enough?
Oh, and this is why Catholics are scum. They'll disown their own flesh and blood for wanting to think for themselves and base their existence on something other than a superstitious cult. One step above Muslins.

Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:47 am
by JoltinJoe
Grizalltheway wrote:
andy7171 wrote: This is why Kalms. The world is full of assholes. It a relationship between me and him. I'm living my life and struggling. Raising my girls as best I can. My dad was heartbroken when I refused to be confirmed and elated when I did when I was 23. I try to be like him everyday. But fail. My faith keeps me going to be better. Good enough?
Oh, and this is why Catholics are scum. They'll disown their own flesh and blood for wanting to think for themselves and base their existence on something other than a superstitious cult. One step above Muslins.
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Re: POLL: Your Religious affiliation...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:47 am
by Ivytalk
JoltinJoe wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
JJ, I know you're dying to answer your own question, but don't go all JSO on us.
:lol:

Former Deist. Pretty much described me in my later high school and early college years.

I will say this. I find it ironic that so many people who so frequently cite Occam's Razor don't see the evident simplicity in a god who takes your form and explains everything to you. Isn't that the perfect God?
Spot on. Did the Fordham experience help you shed your Deist phase?