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Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:39 pm
by CAA Flagship
Oh boy. Here we go.
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Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:03 pm
by Chizzang
I love it...
If only because I love the idea of civil disobedience in general
CID1990 will correctly point out that this is conceptually the same as the "perpetual motion machine"
But its still good stuff - I enthusiastically await the fast food revolution
Nothing would make me happier than to see Fast Food prices quadruple

Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:19 pm
by CID1990
meh Im cool with it
but they had better do some time- THAT is civil disobedience- too many people want to label protest as civil disobedience when it involves no personal sacrifices
for example
Thoreau and MLK went to jail- that is civil disobedience
Springsteen went to Canada- that is not civil disobedience
Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:24 pm
by Chizzang
CID1990 wrote:meh Im cool with it
but they had better do some time- THAT is civil disobedience- too many people want to label protest as civil disobedience when it involves no personal sacrifices
for example
Thoreau and MLK went to jail- that is civil disobedience
Springsteen went to Canada- that is not civil disobedience
Ted Nugent even used civil disobedience to draft dodge...
TED, The HOLY GRAIL of Right Wing War Hawking tough talk is a draft dodging civil disobedience guy

Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:08 pm
by Ibanez
CID1990 wrote:meh Im cool with it
but they had better do some time- THAT is civil disobedience- too many people want to label protest as civil disobedience when it involves no personal sacrifices
for example
Thoreau and MLK went to jail- that is civil disobedience
Springsteen and Bill Clinton went to Canada- that is not civil disobedience
Better??
Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:09 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Oh man. This is sure to get tea baggers riled up. Threaten to take away their fast food and all hell will break lose. Criticize Chik fil a and they come out in droves to stuff their faces with processed chicken. A fast food worker strike? The stuff of teabagger nightmares.
Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:10 pm
by CID1990
Chizzang wrote:CID1990 wrote:meh Im cool with it
but they had better do some time- THAT is civil disobedience- too many people want to label protest as civil disobedience when it involves no personal sacrifices
for example
Thoreau and MLK went to jail- that is civil disobedience
Springsteen went to Canada- that is not civil disobedience
Ted Nugent even used civil disobedience to draft dodge...
TED, The HOLY GRAIL of Right Wing War Hawking tough talk is a draft dodging civil disobedience guy

did he stay in the US and face the music, or did he runnoft?
Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:15 pm
by Grizalltheway
CID1990 wrote:Chizzang wrote:
Ted Nugent even used civil disobedience to draft dodge...
TED, The HOLY GRAIL of Right Wing War Hawking tough talk is a draft dodging civil disobedience guy

did he stay in the US and face the music, or did he runnoft?
He did meth and shit in his pants in order to be deemed unfit for service.
Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:49 pm
by BDKJMU
So a bunch of teens living at home with mommy and daddy and 20 something's with no skills are going to do civil disobedience because they don't get $15 an hr?
Just fire their asses. There are PLENTY of people to replace them.

Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:02 pm
by BDKJMU
".....Latoya Caldwell, a mother of four from Kansas City, Missouri, who earns
$7.50 an hour at a Wendy's restaurant, said she works six days a week to get
40 hours and earn a
$435 paycheck......"
Looks like almost $11 an hr to me and close to 23k a year. And of course no mention of EITC, food stamps, subsidized housing, SCHIP, Medicaid, subsidized day care, etc, etc, etc..
None of them are in poverty or deserve more than they are getting.
Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:35 pm
by Chizzang
BDKJMU wrote:
None of them are in poverty or deserve more than they are getting.
It's not about "deserve" is it..?
Do the bandits on Wall Street deserve the millions they steal..?
Its about what you can get - by any means possible - in a capitalist market (period)
They have every right to strike or quit or sit down or lay down or whatever - some will get fired some will go to jail some will cry on camera... who knows
Things will work out - one way or another - just sit back and enjoy the show man..!!!
Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:06 pm
by CID1990
Grizalltheway wrote:CID1990 wrote:
did he stay in the US and face the music, or did he runnoft?
He did meth and **** in his pants in order to be deemed unfit for service.
that isnt civil disobedience
thats just being a fvcktard cockmonkey
Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:38 pm
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:CID1990 wrote:meh Im cool with it
but they had better do some time- THAT is civil disobedience- too many people want to label protest as civil disobedience when it involves no personal sacrifices
for example
Thoreau and MLK went to jail- that is civil disobedience
Springsteen went to Canada- that is not civil disobedience
Ted Nugent even used civil disobedience to draft dodge...
TED, The HOLY GRAIL of Right Wing War Hawking tough talk is a draft dodging civil disobedience guy

That is hilarious if you truly think conservatives feel that way about Ted Nugent.

Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:56 pm
by Chizzang
AZGrizFan wrote:Chizzang wrote:
Ted Nugent even used civil disobedience to draft dodge...
TED, The HOLY GRAIL of Right Wing War Hawking tough talk is a draft dodging civil disobedience guy

That is hilarious if you truly think conservatives feel that way about Ted Nugent.

He's a widely appreciated and well respected Tea Party Member...

Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:44 am
by houndawg
Chizzang wrote:I love it...
If only because I love the idea of civil disobedience in general
CID1990 will correctly point out that this is conceptually the same as the "perpetual motion machine"
But its still good stuff - I enthusiastically await the fast food revolution
Nothing would make me happier than to see Fast Food prices quadruple

And not having their employee costs dumped on the US taxpayer...
Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:59 am
by kalm
houndawg wrote:Chizzang wrote:I love it...
If only because I love the idea of civil disobedience in general
CID1990 will correctly point out that this is conceptually the same as the "perpetual motion machine"
But its still good stuff - I enthusiastically await the fast food revolution
Nothing would make me happier than to see Fast Food prices quadruple

And not having their employee costs dumped on the US taxpayer...
This right here is the part the BDK's fail to get. Disdain for those working full time and an under appreciation of how many low wage workers aren't teenagers. Teens theoretically can only work part time, so where are all of these low wage workers coming from? And they're having babies to boot!
Solution: cut their government bennies and they'll magically find better paying jobs to support their families and buy more things they can't afford.
If we had a solid economy, any full time employment would keep you out of poverty and enable you to drive the economy through purchasing the necessities for your family...like iPhones and bundled internet/cable.
Sad.
Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:17 am
by JohnStOnge
And not having their employee costs dumped on the US taxpayer…
Liberals/Progressives ought to like that because, as is the case with cost to taxpayers in general, the overwhelming preponderance of taxpayer cost to take care of the poor is borne by the rich.
But my position is it shouldn't be an issue because government shouldn't be in the business of charity. Charity should be a voluntary, private thing.
If one is a person who typically votes for Democrats and/or for politicians that are more likely to foster the "we will take care of you" State then you should be willing to bear the cost of that anyway. You shouldn't be telling people who own businesses that they have to pay people more than what they do is worth so that the taxpayers who VOTED to have government try to take care of everybody's personal needs don't have to pay for what THEY voted for.
Of course, as I said, the typical person in the United States can afford to be pretty cavalier with respect to who is going to pay for it because the overwhelming preponderance of the cost is shifted to a small percentage of top income people. Easy to call for "taking care of the poor" when what you're really calling for is making somebody ELSE take care of the poor. Boy that takes a LOT of compassion and it's a REAL sacrifice.
Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:25 am
by CID1990
Chizzang wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
That is hilarious if you truly think conservatives feel that way about Ted Nugent.

He's a widely appreciated and well respected Tea Party Member...

i think its more like he's convenient to some tea party groups when they want to grouse about 2nd amendment issues
but Im not that officially close to any tea party groups to know for sure so Ill take your word for it
Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:06 am
by YoUDeeMan
CID1990 wrote:Chizzang wrote:
He's a widely appreciated and well respected Tea Party Member...

i think its more like he's convenient to some tea party groups when they want to grouse about 2nd amendment issues
but Im not that officially close to any tea party groups to know for sure so Ill take your word for it
chizz...the true source of inside information regarding all that is the Tea Party...and about as reliable a source as espandos.

Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:08 am
by YoUDeeMan
Chizzang wrote:
Nothing would make me happier than to see Fast Food prices quadruple

Why do you hate other people?

Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:28 am
by YoUDeeMan
JohnStOnge wrote:And not having their employee costs dumped on the US taxpayer…
Liberals/Progressives ought to like that because, as is the case with cost to taxpayers in general, the overwhelming preponderance of taxpayer cost to take care of the poor is borne by the rich.
Of course, as I said, the typical person in the United States can afford to be pretty cavalier with respect to who is going to pay for it because the overwhelming preponderance of the cost is shifted to a small percentage of top income people. Easy to call for "taking care of the poor" when what you're really calling for is making somebody ELSE take care of the poor. Boy that takes a LOT of compassion and it's a REAL sacrifice.
Our lying sack 'o shite governor, Markell, told everyone that Delaware didn't have room for any of the illegal immigrant children. We couldn't afford it. Suddenly, Obama came to visit...and ooops, Delaware is taking in 171 of these illegal immigrants.
Markell is also telling everyone that
WE need to be prepared to support these kids and educate them during their stay.
We.
None of these kids will be going to Markell's kids' school. None of them will live in his neighborhood.
In the meantime, a host family will receive over $1,000 tax-free (now you have to admit, that is insanely funny) for each child, up to six children.
For some background, the local paper, the News Urinal, just put out an article regarding the fact that Delaware has tens of thousands of poor children that the state is having difficulty funding. So heck, why not add a bunch more?
When you read the News Urinal's comments, you have the typical banter going back and forth between a bunch of Conks, and a few Libs. Of course, a few of the Libs are using the race card.
But what really sticks out is when the Libs say that WE should support these children.
Who is, "we?"
If you want to adopt an illegal immigrant child and support them, then feel free to do so. But the whole idea that, "we" should support these children is baffling. Because, in reality, the Libs are not saying, "I", or, "we", and if they are part of the, "we." If they meant that, then they'd take action and directly support those children.
Instead, what they are really saying is that SOMEONE ELSE should support these children, and that the government should take SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY to support these children because the Libs don't actually want to do it themselves. They are too busy taking care of their cat, or watching Ellen to actually be one of the "we" people.

Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:15 am
by houndawg
CID1990 wrote:Chizzang wrote:
He's a widely appreciated and well respected Tea Party Member...

i think its more like he's convenient to some tea party groups when they want to grouse about 2nd amendment issues
but Im not that officially close to any tea party groups to know for sure so Ill take your word for it
Boss nearby?

Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:18 am
by houndawg
BDKJMU wrote:".....Latoya Caldwell, a mother of four from Kansas City, Missouri, who earns
$7.50 an hour at a Wendy's restaurant, said she works six days a week to get
40 hours and earn a
$435 paycheck......"
Looks like almost $11 an hr to me and close to 23k a year. And of course no mention of EITC, food stamps, subsidized housing, SCHIP, Medicaid, subsidized day care, etc, etc, etc..
None of them are in poverty or deserve more than they are getting.
She gets paid every two weeks.

Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:08 am
by Chizzang
Anybody who's against fast food workers using civil disobedience and rallying their limited resources to better their position in life is, by definition is un-American
Those at the bottom working together to better their situation and leverage their group strength is the story of America and pretty much defines WHO WE ARE...
Go America..!!!
Go Fast Workers..!!!
Fight the good fight

Re: Fast food workers vow civil disobedience
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:32 am
by FCS PATRIOTS