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Fact and Fiction

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:14 am
by kalm
Interesting results. Not that there's anything wrong with mythology. In fact, it might be good for the psyche.
Children exposed to religion have difficulty distinguishing fact from fiction
SCOTT KAUFMAN FRIDAY, JULY 18, 2014 12:28 EDT

A study published in the July issue of Cognitive Science determined that children who are not exposed to religious stories are better able to tell that characters in “fantastical stories” are fictional — whereas children raised in a religious environment even “approach unfamiliar, fantastical stories flexibly.”
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Re: Fact and Fiction

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:32 am
by LeadBolt
kalm wrote:Interesting results. Not that there's anything wrong with mythology. In fact, it might be good for the psyche.
Children exposed to religion have difficulty distinguishing fact from fiction
SCOTT KAUFMAN FRIDAY, JULY 18, 2014 12:28 EDT

A study published in the July issue of Cognitive Science determined that children who are not exposed to religious stories are better able to tell that characters in “fantastical stories” are fictional — whereas children raised in a religious environment even “approach unfamiliar, fantastical stories flexibly.”
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So approaching the unfamiliar with a flexible mind is less desirable?

Re: Fact and Fiction

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:50 am
by Chizzang
LeadBolt wrote:
kalm wrote:Interesting results. Not that there's anything wrong with mythology. In fact, it might be good for the psyche.



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So approaching the unfamiliar with a flexible mind is less desirable?
Ha..!
You didn't read the article did you :shock:

Re: Fact and Fiction

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:58 am
by Ibanez
LeadBolt wrote:
kalm wrote:Interesting results. Not that there's anything wrong with mythology. In fact, it might be good for the psyche.



http://mobile.rawstory.com/all/2014-07- ... -fiction#1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So approaching the unfamiliar with a flexible mind is less desirable?
:suspicious: The article is saying...nevermind. Read it.

Re: Fact and Fiction

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:41 am
by CAA Flagship
Oh brother. :roll:
Children that play baseball have better hand-eye coordination than children that play soccer.
Children that eat unhealthy foods are more likely to be obese.
Children that do not read regularly are more likely to have lower grades.

In the long standing debate of genetics vs. environment, these are cases of where environment has influenced the subjects.

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Re: Fact and Fiction

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:09 am
by andy7171
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Re: Fact and Fiction

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:10 am
by Chizzang
CAA Flagship wrote:Oh brother. :roll:
Children that play baseball have better hand-eye coordination than children that play soccer.
Children that eat unhealthy foods are more likely to be obese.
Children that do not read regularly are more likely to have lower grades.

In the long standing debate of genetics vs. environment, these are cases of where environment has influenced the subjects.

Free their minds...
Its not about "what to think" its about thinking and learning to think

Imposed ideas (brainwashing) is a prison

:nod:

Taken to its extreme you have "The Taliban or FLDS"

:tothehand:

Re: Fact and Fiction

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:23 am
by CID1990
hey look another troll thread

Re: Fact and Fiction

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:27 am
by CAA Flagship
Chizzang wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:Oh brother. :roll:
Children that play baseball have better hand-eye coordination than children that play soccer.
Children that eat unhealthy foods are more likely to be obese.
Children that do not read regularly are more likely to have lower grades.

In the long standing debate of genetics vs. environment, these are cases of where environment has influenced the subjects.

Free their minds...
Its not about "what to think" its about thinking and learning to think

Imposed ideas (brainwashing) is a prison

:nod:

Taken to its extreme you have "The Taliban or FLDS"

:tothehand:
I could argue that being raised in believing the unseen, as well as, being raised in a world where seeing is believing, produces a broader thinker. The truth of the matter is that we cannot see everything that is fact. But only believing what you can see will make a person a pretty big skeptic that never uses a credit card and uses cash for all purchases. :lol:

Re: Fact and Fiction

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:46 am
by GannonFan
I'm fine with kids being raised this way...
the authors suggest that “religious teaching, especially exposure to miracle stories, leads children to a more generic receptivity toward the impossible, that is, a more wide-ranging acceptance that the impossible can happen in defiance of ordinary causal relations.”
There are plenty of people who, once they are past the age of 5 and 6 as kids are in this article, that are religious and pursue scientific careers, and they excel at the science. Didn't seem to harm them in any way.

Re: Fact and Fiction

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:37 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Compare the most religious states to the states that score the worst on science.

Re: Fact and Fiction

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:44 pm
by Chizzang
CAA Flagship wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

Free their minds...
Its not about "what to think" its about thinking and learning to think

Imposed ideas (brainwashing) is a prison

:nod:

Taken to its extreme you have "The Taliban or FLDS"

:tothehand:
I could argue that being raised in believing the unseen, as well as, being raised in a world where seeing is believing, produces a broader thinker. The truth of the matter is that we cannot see everything that is fact. But only believing what you can see will make a person a pretty big skeptic that never uses a credit card and uses cash for all purchases. :lol:
Wow-zer... talk about missing the point completely

:notworthy:

Re: Fact and Fiction

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:55 pm
by GannonFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:Compare the most religious states to the states that score the worst on science.
Nah, that's just coincidental. A better correlation for science aptitude is looking at the Asian population in states. Just sayin.

Re: Fact and Fiction

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:57 pm
by Ibanez
GannonFan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Compare the most religious states to the states that score the worst on science.
Nah, that's just coincidental. A better correlation for science aptitude is looking at the Asian population in states. Just sayin.

ROR

Re: Fact and Fiction

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:04 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Asian population isn't large enough to skew the makeup of many entire states. It might be significant enough to shift a few states that score relatively high in science - like Washington but not much.

But, a state that has a huge Asian population (Hawaii)... doesn't reflect this.

Hawaii is ~40% Asian and is ranked 36th in Science.

Re: Fact and Fiction

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:08 pm
by Grizalltheway
GannonFan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Compare the most religious states to the states that score the worst on science.
Nah, that's just coincidental. A better correlation for science aptitude is looking at the Asian population in states. Just sayin.
Good post JSO. :rofl: