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UK doctors vote for partial cigarette sales ban
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:14 pm
by VictorG
Good for them! Wish we could do the same. Reduce the cost of health care hundreds of billions of dollars over the years.
The British Medical Association voted on Tuesday in favor of a lifelong ban on cigarette sales to those born after 2000, another step toward the group's ultimate goal of a tobacco-free society by 2035.
The argument behind the age-based ban is that "smoking is not a rational, informed choice of adulthood,"
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Re: UK doctors vote for partial cigarette sales ban
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:26 pm
by andy7171
what about all the billions of tax dollars that will go away if they stop being sold?

Re: UK doctors vote for partial cigarette sales ban
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:29 pm
by Grizalltheway
VictorG wrote:
The argument behind the age-based ban is that "smoking is not a rational, informed choice of adulthood,"
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Neither is living in the UK.

Re: UK doctors vote for partial cigarette sales ban
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:32 pm
by VictorG
andy7171 wrote:what about all the billions of tax dollars that will go away if they stop being sold?

Pot tax will make up for that!

Re: UK doctors vote for partial cigarette sales ban
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:34 pm
by VictorG
Grizalltheway wrote:VictorG wrote:
The argument behind the age-based ban is that "smoking is not a rational, informed choice of adulthood,"
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101785104" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Neither is living in the UK.

Missed your tee time again I see!
Re: UK doctors vote for partial cigarette sales ban
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:20 pm
by andy7171
VictorG wrote:andy7171 wrote:what about all the billions of tax dollars that will go away if they stop being sold?

Pot tax will make up for that!

Well played!
Re: UK doctors vote for partial cigarette sales ban
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:04 pm
by ∞∞∞
VictorG wrote:andy7171 wrote:what about all the billions of tax dollars that will go away if they stop being sold?

Pot tax will make up for that!

Or we can have both.
Re: UK doctors vote for partial cigarette sales ban
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:47 pm
by VictorG
andy7171 wrote:VictorG wrote:
Pot tax will make up for that!

Well played!

Re: UK doctors vote for partial cigarette sales ban
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:51 pm
by Vidav
Grizalltheway wrote:VictorG wrote:
The argument behind the age-based ban is that "smoking is not a rational, informed choice of adulthood,"
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101785104" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Neither is living in the UK.

You should quit smoking.

Re: UK doctors vote for partial cigarette sales ban
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:02 pm
by BDKJMU
andy7171 wrote:what about all the billions of tax dollars that will go away if they stop being sold?

Yep.
-Fed excise tax of $1.01 per pack
-State excise taxes that range from $.30 (VA) to $4.35 (NY) per pack. + Many some cities impose an additional excise tax (like NYC $1.50).
-State and local sales taxes
2011 brought in over 17.6 billion in tax tobacco revenue (not sure if that even included sales taxes). Many states have since raised tobacco taxes:
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts ... ?Docid=403" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
+ the 1998 246 billion/25 yr in settlements between the states & major cigarette manufacturers.
+ people if everyone quit smoking they will live longer costing us tens of billions a year in more social security and medicare paid out.
You want to save social security and medicare? Have everyone start smoking 3 packs a day. Drop the avg life expectancy by years. Problem solved...

Re: UK doctors vote for partial cigarette sales ban
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:05 pm
by BDKJMU
VictorG wrote:andy7171 wrote:what about all the billions of tax dollars that will go away if they stop being sold?

Pot tax will make up for that!

Yeah, lets ban cigarette smoking but turn around and allow pot smoking..

Re: UK doctors vote for partial cigarette sales ban
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:11 pm
by andy7171
BDKJMU wrote:VictorG wrote:
Pot tax will make up for that!

Yeah, lets ban cigarette smoking but turn around and allow pot smoking..

I agree. It would make alcoholism easier to deal with.
Re: UK doctors vote for partial cigarette sales ban
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:14 am
by Baldy
"progressives" being "progressive"

Re: UK doctors vote for partial cigarette sales ban
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:18 am
by VictorG
BDKJMU wrote:
+ people if everyone quit smoking they will live longer costing us tens of billions a year in more social security and medicare paid out.
You want to save social security and medicare? Have everyone start smoking 3 packs a day. Drop the avg life expectancy by years. Problem solved...

And here is your next GOP candidate. He actually understands what the GOP platform is!!

Re: UK doctors vote for partial cigarette sales ban
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:52 am
by Baldy
VictorG wrote:BDKJMU wrote:
+ people if everyone quit smoking they will live longer costing us tens of billions a year in more social security and medicare paid out.
You want to save social security and medicare? Have everyone start smoking 3 packs a day. Drop the avg life expectancy by years. Problem solved...

And here is your next GOP candidate. He actually understands what the GOP platform is!!

Sarcasm?

Re: UK doctors vote for partial cigarette sales ban
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:13 am
by VictorG
Baldy wrote:VictorG wrote:
And here is your next GOP candidate. He actually understands what the GOP platform is!!

Sarcasm?

Of course!!

Re: UK doctors vote for partial cigarette sales ban
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:19 am
by Pwns
Prohibition on substances...what could possibly go wrong?