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he Escondido, Calif.-based craft brewery, the 10th largest of its kind in the United States, plans to expand its operation to the East Coast this year - a move that promises to bring nearly 400 jobs and a $29 million investment to the host city that lands it.

Charleston County is reportedly to be angling for the investment. Published reports suggest a host of other communities east of the Mississippi also are seeking to win the deal, including Greenville, Myrtle Beach, Lexington County, Asheville, Charlotte, Greensboro and a host of other communities from Pennsylvania to Tennessee.

Can't think of any good breweries that added another location and maintained their good brew. Don't even think it Flaggy.

Yuengling is a good example. Bought Stroh's in Tampa but the beer doesn't taste anything like the original Vitamin Y from PA.

89Hen wrote: Can't think of any good breweries that added another location and maintained their good brew. Don't even think it Flaggy.

Yuengling is a good example. Bought Stroh's in Tampa but the beer doesn't taste anything like the original Vitamin Y from PA.

Comparing Yuengling with Stone? Really?

I'd be more excited if Rogue branched out. Although, I have absolutely no problem finding their stuff almost anywhere I go.

bandl wrote:I'd be more excited if Rogue branched out. Although, I have absolutely no problem finding their stuff almost anywhere I go.

Rogue is easily found. New Belgium and Sierra Nevada have expanded to Asheville, NC now.

Grizalltheway wrote:

89Hen wrote: Can't think of any good breweries that added another location and maintained their good brew. Don't even think it Flaggy.

Yuengling is a good example. Bought Stroh's in Tampa but the beer doesn't taste anything like the original Vitamin Y from PA.

Comparing Yuengling with Stone? Really?

Not really. But it's a lot better than AB which I'm sure some here would cite as a brewer with mulitple locations that taste the same.

And BTW, Stone is overrated.

Ibanez wrote:

bandl wrote:I'd be more excited if Rogue branched out. Although, I have absolutely no problem finding their stuff almost anywhere I go.

Rogue is easily found. New Belgium and Sierra Nevada have expanded to Asheville, NC now.

I honestly don't understand the fascination with New Belgium. Fat Tire is a decent beer, at best. Their other beers that I've had, mediocre. Not bad, but certainly not on par with Rogue, Dogfish, Flying Dog, etc.

But their marketing/advertising department gets an A+ because they certainly promoted their product well.

bandl wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
Rogue is easily found. New Belgium and Sierra Nevada have expanded to Asheville, NC now.

I honestly don't understand the fascination with New Belgium. Fat Tire is a decent beer, at best. Their other beers that I've had, mediocre. Not bad, but certainly not on par with Rogue, Dogfish, Flying Dog, etc.

But their marketing/advertising department gets an A+ because they certainly promoted their product well.

Agreed, but they have several pretty good brews. Of the four listed, I've had the least experience with Rogue. Flying Dog is my #1 by far. DFH sometimes tries too hard IMO. Sam's book on brewing isn't called "Extreme Brewing" for nothing. The problem with Rogue for me is I can only find 2-3 varieties. Just looked on their website...

American Amber Ale
Beard Beer
Brutal IPA
Captain Sig's Northwestern Ale
Chocolate Stout
Dad's Little Helper Black IPA
Dead Guy Ale
Double Chocolate Stout
Hazelnut Brown Nectar
Integrity Ale
Irish Lager
Juniper Pale Ale
Mocha Porter
Mom Hefeweizen
Morimoto Black Obi Soba
Morimoto Imperial Pilsner
Morimoto Soba Ale
New Crustacean Barleywineish Imperial IPA Sorta
Portland State IPA
Portland State Pale Ale
Rogue Farms 19 Original Colonies Mead
Rogue Farms 7 Hop IPA
Rogue Farms Chipotle Ale
Rogue Farms Dirtoir Black Lager
Rogue Farms Good Chit Pilsner
Rogue Farms Honey Kolsch
Rogue Farms OREgasmic Ale
Rogue Farms Pumpkin Patch Ale
Rogue Farms Roguenbier Rye Ale
Rogue Farms Single Malt Ale
Santa's Private Reserve
Shakespeare Oatmeal Stout
Voodoo Bacon Maple Ale
Voodoo Chocolate, Peanut Butter & Banana Ale
Voodoo Doughnut Pretzel, Raspberry & Chocolate Ale
XS Dead Guy Ale
XS Imperial I2PA
XS Old Crustacean Barleywine
XS Russian Imperial Stout
Yellow Snow IPA

89Hen wrote:Juniper Pale Ale

BTW, this one really caught my eye. I actually said a year or two ago I'd love to try to brew an ale with Juniper berries since I love me some gin.

89Hen wrote:

bandl wrote: I honestly don't understand the fascination with New Belgium. Fat Tire is a decent beer, at best. Their other beers that I've had, mediocre. Not bad, but certainly not on par with Rogue, Dogfish, Flying Dog, etc.

But their marketing/advertising department gets an A+ because they certainly promoted their product well.

Agreed, but they have several pretty good brews. Of the four listed, I've had the least experience with Rogue. Flying Dog is my #1 by far. DFH sometimes tries too hard IMO. Sam's book on brewing isn't called "Extreme Brewing" for nothing. The problem with Rogue for me is I can only find 2-3 varieties. Just looked on their website...

American Amber Ale
Beard Beer
Brutal IPA
Captain Sig's Northwestern Ale
Chocolate Stout
Dad's Little Helper Black IPA
Dead Guy Ale
Double Chocolate Stout
Hazelnut Brown Nectar
Integrity Ale
Irish Lager
Juniper Pale Ale
Mocha Porter
Mom Hefeweizen
Morimoto Black Obi Soba
Morimoto Imperial Pilsner
Morimoto Soba Ale
New Crustacean Barleywineish Imperial IPA Sorta
Portland State IPA
Portland State Pale Ale
Rogue Farms 19 Original Colonies Mead
Rogue Farms 7 Hop IPA
Rogue Farms Chipotle Ale
Rogue Farms Dirtoir Black Lager
Rogue Farms Good Chit Pilsner
Rogue Farms Honey Kolsch
Rogue Farms OREgasmic Ale
Rogue Farms Pumpkin Patch Ale
Rogue Farms Roguenbier Rye Ale
Rogue Farms Single Malt Ale
Santa's Private Reserve
Shakespeare Oatmeal Stout
Voodoo Bacon Maple Ale
Voodoo Chocolate, Peanut Butter & Banana Ale
Voodoo Doughnut Pretzel, Raspberry & Chocolate Ale
XS Dead Guy Ale
XS Imperial I2PA
XS Old Crustacean Barleywine
XS Russian Imperial Stout
Yellow Snow IPA

I miss Total Wine...that's where I used to get my Rogue beers. I think I've seen about 10 of those beers up here. Holy crap there's alot of stuff I haven't seen though.

I haven't tried more than 3 or 4 of DFH's 'extreme' brews, but I've liked them all. Of course, some of them I can only have one glass of for one reason or another, but they have always been good. Otherwise, their 'standard' beers are excellent.

You know who sucks? Peak Organic. E.V.E.R.Y. single one of their beers is crap. And since they are a Northeast beer I see them everywhere.

Rogue's tap house in Portland is amazing. Kind of pricey compared to what I'm used to, but they have damn near every one of their beers on tap.

Every time I see a discussion like this I think about the time back in the 90s where there was this big blind beer taste testing thing to select the best tasting beer without people knowing what they were drinking and either Old Milwaukee or Milwaukee's Best won. It was one of those two and I can never remember which.

Sorry...Stone sucks. I might have had 1 of their beers that was decent. They should move the entire plant to the EC(b).

JohnStOnge wrote:Every time I see a discussion like this I think about the time back in the 90s where there was this big blind beer taste testing thing to select the best tasting beer without people knowing what they were drinking and either Old Milwaukee or Milwaukee's Best won. It was one of those two and I can never remember which.

And you are an idiot once again.

grizzaholic wrote:Sorry...Stone sucks. I might have had 1 of their beers that was decent. They should move the entire plant to the EC(b).

Who are you, Pols?

JohnStOnge wrote:Every time I see a discussion like this I think about the time back in the 90s where there was this big blind beer taste testing thing to select the best tasting beer without people knowing what they were drinking and either Old Milwaukee or Milwaukee's Best won. It was one of those two and I can never remember which.

Just. Stop. Posting.

grizzaholic wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:Every time I see a discussion like this I think about the time back in the 90s where there was this big blind beer taste testing thing to select the best tasting beer without people knowing what they were drinking and either Old Milwaukee or Milwaukee's Best won. It was one of those two and I can never remember which.

And you are an idiot once again.

Hey, it happened. It is what it is. I'm just the messenger.

Grizalltheway wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:Sorry...Stone sucks. I might have had 1 of their beers that was decent. They should move the entire plant to the EC(b).

Who are you, Pols?

No. My name is Grizza. I have tried many of the beers Stone has to offer and have been "meh" on almost every one. I even dumped out a couple of them.

JohnStOnge wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:
And you are an idiot once again.

Hey, it happened. It is what it is. I'm just the messenger.

I would love to witness that "blind" tasting. I will be calling bullshit.

I would love to witness that "blind" tasting. I will be calling bullshit.

Are you suggesting that people really KNEW they were tasting Old Milwaukee or Milwaukee's Best and that's why they picked it?

JohnStOnge wrote:

I would love to witness that "blind" tasting. I will be calling bullshit.

Are you suggesting that people really KNEW they were tasting Old Milwaukee or Milwaukee's Best and that's why they picked it?

FFS.

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(I cannot find a face palm big enough)

What I can do is post this ↓

The Corona coup: How Constellation sells so much bad beer

Here’s the curious thing: Corona is not very good—at least by most critical accounts.

After 3,200 reviews at RateBeer.com, Corona has a grade of 1.69 out of 10. The Beer Advocate gives Corona an “awful” rating of 55 out of 100 and the following description: “faded aromas of sulphur, faint skunk, mild cooked veggies.”

Not only is Corona not very good—it’s one of the worst Mexican beers. Here’s how the folks at Beer Advocate rank other suds from south of the border.

John, you put your beer test before me with 100 beers and I can guarantee that " THE BEAST" will be in the bottom 10.

JohnStOnge wrote:Every time I see a discussion like this I think about the time back in the 90s where there was this big blind beer taste testing thing to select the best tasting beer without people knowing what they were drinking and either Old Milwaukee or Milwaukee's Best won. It was one of those two and I can never remember which.

Back in the 90's.... you do know that's 20 years ago?

JohnStOnge wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:
And you are an idiot once again.

Hey, it happened. It is what it is. I'm just the messenger.

When you are comparing shit to shit, you shouldn't be surprised that shit wins.

89Hen wrote:

89Hen wrote:Juniper Pale Ale

BTW, this one really caught my eye. I actually said a year or two ago I'd love to try to brew an ale with Juniper berries since I love me some gin.

I love juniper so was very excited to try this. I really felt the juniper flavor was too weak. I really didn't notice it much at all.