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A recent survey of 148 insurance brokers shows that ObamaCare is sending premiums rising at the fastest clip in decades.

"For the last, about, five years they've been doing this survey, so this was the largest percentage increase in any quarter since they've been doing (the survey)," said Scott Gottlieb of the American Enterprise Institute.

"But at 12 percent, 11 percent increase on average across all the states -- that puts it at the upper end of any increase we've seen for decades."

That is the national average in a survey done by Morgan Stanley. But in some states, it found rates are soaring.

"There are specific states with exorbitant increases," Gottlieb said. "Delaware had 100 percent increase, Florida had a 37 percent increase, Pennsylvania 28 percent increase, California had a 53 percent increase in their premiums."

Rates vary widely, often depending on the state and how highly regulated it was to begin with. Analysts, however, say the main reasons for the higher costs are not medical inflation, but rather the requirements of ObamaCare itself.

"There are certain regulations and certain requirements that had to be in there. And because of that it's driven up the costs of these benefits," said John DiVito of the Flexible Benefit Service Corporation, which represents hundreds of agents. Rate hikes include ten essential health benefits along with more than 20,000 pages or regulations.

The reported hikes are for the first policies issued under ObamaCare in 2014.

The Congressional Budget Office or CBO issued a report Monday saying the average premium for the silver plan this year will be $3,800, or just over $300 a month, rising to $4,400 in 2016, 15 percent below its earlier estimates in 2009.

Those early, higher estimates make costs now look better – but that does not include deductibles of as much as $5,000.

But the estimates are comforting to the White House.

White House spokesman Jay Carney says, "It shows that marketplace health care costs have gone down because premium estimates have gone down."

The CBO also projects future premium increases over the next decade.

Insurance companies will soon have to set rates for 2015, and analysts fear reported higher costs now will mean increases next year, as well.

"They're going to see an announcement that next year's premium's going to be 25 percent or maybe 50 percent higher than what they're now paying," says John Goodman of the National Center for Policy Analysis.

John Divito of Flexible Benefit Service Corporation said, "we're reading studies where the rates could be 10 to 30, 40 percent higher. Again, it all depends geographically where these rates are being looked at but definitely an increase in rates."

Scott Gottlieb, a medical doctor as well as an analyst, added, "We've seen insurance premiums go up quite a bit over the period in which ObamaCare started to get implemented."

Insurance executives say the same thing. Marc Bertolini, CEO of Aetna, recently told an earning conference that he anticipates 2014 spikes of 20 to 50 percent, going as high as 100 percent in some markets.

Chizzang wrote:Wait,
So this is what happens when you let insurance companies write their own legislation...
Shocking i tell you


no one could have predicted this - except everybody who predicted this

kalm wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Wait,
So this is what happens when you let insurance companies write their own legislation...
Shocking i tell you


no one could have predicted this - except everybody who predicted this

Meanwhile conks continue to defend corruption in campaign finance.

D1B wrote:Don't think so King Konk. Insurance companies capitalizing on the new law and fucking consumers up the ass.

100% conkestrated fear mongering.

AZGrizFan wrote:

D1B wrote:Don't think so King Konk. Insurance companies capitalizing on the new law and fucking consumers up the ass.

100% conkestrated fear mongering.

The new law, passed EXCLUSIVELY by donks, who allowed said insurance companies to write their own fucking legislation. I hope your premiums quadruple.

D1B wrote:Don't think so King Konk. Insurance companies capitalizing on the new law and fucking consumers up the ass.

100% conkestrated fear mongering.

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:

D1B wrote:Don't think so King Konk. Insurance companies capitalizing on the new law and fucking consumers up the ass.

100% conkestrated fear mongering.

Yo...dumb Bo..........written, voted on and signed into law by a 100% Donk administration acting like a conk administration

kalm wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
The new law, passed EXCLUSIVELY by donks, who allowed said insurance companies to write their own fucking legislation. I hope your premiums quadruple.

Why did they do that?

kalm wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
The new law, passed EXCLUSIVELY by donks, who allowed said insurance companies to write their own fucking legislation. I hope your premiums quadruple.

Why did they do that?

kalm wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Wait,
So this is what happens when you let insurance companies write their own legislation...
Shocking i tell you


no one could have predicted this - except everybody who predicted this

Meanwhile conks continue to defend corruption in campaign finance.

OL FU wrote:

kalm wrote:
Meanwhile conks continue to defend corruption in campaign finance.

So Democrats let the "corrupt" insurance companies write the legislation which not 1 republican voted for and it is the republicans fault.

kalm wrote:

OL FU wrote:
So Democrats let the "corrupt" insurance companies write the legislation which not 1 republican voted for and it is the republicans fault.

Yep. And most Democrats support corruption as well. But it was a conk that brought the McCutcheon case and conks fully supported Citizens United...decided by conk Supreme Court Justices.

OL FU wrote:

kalm wrote:
Yep. And most Democrats support corruption as well. But it was a conk that brought the McCutcheon case and conks fully supported Citizens United...decided by conk Supreme Court Justices.

I guess all those $2500 contributions to all those different democratic candidates that didn't occur because the McCutcheon case hadn't been decided is why we have The Affordable Health Care act

kalm wrote:

OL FU wrote:
So Democrats let the "corrupt" insurance companies write the legislation which not 1 republican voted for and it is the republicans fault.

Yep. And most Democrats support corruption as well. But it was a conk that brought the McCutcheon case and conks fully supported Citizens United...decided by conk Supreme Court Justices.

Cluck U wrote:

kalm wrote:
Yep. And most Democrats support corruption as well. But it was a conk that brought the McCutcheon case and conks fully supported Citizens United...decided by conk Supreme Court Justices.

klam has officially jumped the shark.

A meteor hits the Earth...and it the Republicans' fault because of campaign financing.

Cluck U wrote:

kalm wrote:
Yep. And most Democrats support corruption as well. But it was a conk that brought the McCutcheon case and conks fully supported Citizens United...decided by conk Supreme Court Justices.

klam has officially jumped the shark.

A meteor hits the Earth...and it the Republicans' fault because of campaign financing.

kalm wrote:

Cluck U wrote:
klam has officially jumped the shark.

A meteor hits the Earth...and it the Republicans' fault because of campaign financing.

In a thread started by a conk about legislative corruption involving a donk administration. But let's all pretend corruption doesn't exist and that conks don't defend the current model.

Cluck U wrote:

kalm wrote:
In a thread started by a conk about legislative corruption involving a donk administration. But let's all pretend corruption doesn't exist and that conks don't defend the current model.

And the thread is accurate.

Here's how you interject your own philosophy into an existing thread:

"You Conks are absolutely right, and Obama, and all his supporters, should be ashamed of themselves because he is a lying sack of shvt, and his followers are brain dead, leaches that want big government to protect them form their own stupidity and laziness, and they think everyone owes them something.

However, Conks are also guilty of corruption, so we should all vote for the Libertarian candidates."

Remember, I am here to help.

Instead, you are simply trying to interrupt and shout loudly enough so that someone pays attention to your idea.

Try some capital letters...they might have the same impact.

bluehenbillk wrote:Just saying Obamacare is causing health care rates to skyrocket is plain BS.

I've been paying & continue to pay a friggin arm & a leg towards health care. The health care system & especially its costs have been broken for years, it just didn't start today. I understand some public workers are going to hem & haw because they're now being asked to pay a percentage of their own health care now versus getting it for free in the past, but if anyone was paying attention to the Scott Walker's & Chris Christie's of the world that's been a centerpiece of their terms.

Neither side, conk nor donk, seems to be able to come up with any solutions to stop or even friggin slow down the runaway train that is health care costs.

A recent survey of 148 insurance brokers shows that ObamaCare is sending premiums rising at the fastest clip in decades.

"For the last, about, five years they've been doing this survey, so this was the largest percentage increase in any quarter since they've been doing (the survey)," said Scott Gottlieb of the American Enterprise Institute.

"But at 12 percent, 11 percent increase on average across all the states -- that puts it at the upper end of any increase we've seen for decades."