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Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:18 pm
by VictorG
Your tax dollars at work!!! :thumb:


http://news.yahoo.com/us-navy-game-chan ... 44958.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:10 pm
by Chizzang
Pretty cool... lots of technologies colliding
Wait till these cats nail this down
https://www.llnl.gov/news/newsreleases/ ... 0MiLles009" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Building a "Star on Earth" project (very exciting)

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:30 pm
by VictorG
Plus I really like laser and rail gun weapons they are testing and will be deployed in a few years! Great stuff!!

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:51 pm
by Chizzang
VictorG wrote:Plus I really like laser and rail gun weapons they are testing and will be deployed in a few years! Great stuff!!
Peace on Earth free energy for everybody / or this ^ :rofl:


You are a funny man Victor :lol: way to slap down the Hippie

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:05 pm
by VictorG
Chizzang wrote: You are a funny man Victor :lol: way to slap down the Hippie
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:


As always, 2 sides to each coin! :nod:

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:09 pm
by mrklean
After two years. they will say its too expensive to maintain....... Typical DOD :coffee:

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:10 pm
by mrklean
VictorG wrote:Plus I really like laser and rail gun weapons they are testing and will be deployed in a few years! Great stuff!!

Keep drinking to Kool Aid :dunce:

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:15 pm
by houndawg
VictorG wrote:Plus I really like laser and rail gun weapons they are testing and will be deployed in a few years! Great stuff!!
Great stuff when we're the only ones that have them. :thumb:

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:29 pm
by VictorG
mrklean wrote:
VictorG wrote:Plus I really like laser and rail gun weapons they are testing and will be deployed in a few years! Great stuff!!

Keep drinking to Kool Aid :dunce:
Here is some more Cool Kool Aid.....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04 ... -rail-gun/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:32 pm
by VictorG
mrklean wrote:After two years. they will say its too expensive to maintain....... Typical DOD :coffee:
One of the biggest expenses of the current war machine budget is man power...All these reduce that.....In the case of the rail gun, not only is manpower reduced, so is weight and physical requirements for weapons systems and also the size and cost of projectiles. :coffee:

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:49 pm
by expandspanos
Stan Meyer was able to run a car on water back in the early 1990's.

He got visited by the Pentagon, and the rest is history- No water car for Americans. Keep paying for gas, stupid slaves.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S44eRCr-O7o[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a74uarqap2E[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RyrmPwff5o[/youtube]

Great Stan Meyer speech explaining how this type of water energy is being suppressed.

Stan Meyer's last words before dying: "They poisoned me"

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:56 pm
by AZGrizFan
:lol:

I'd expect nothing less from you...

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:06 pm
by expandspanos
AZGrizFan wrote::lol:

I'd expect nothing less from you...
Keep laughing as gas goes from 4 to 5 to 6 dollars a gallon, meanwhile they were paying 7 cents in Venezuela.. We're not getting ripped off.. there's no way, keep on laughing. :ohno:

Meanwhile, or government essentially outlaws cars that get more than 50 MPG.. Nah, they're not intentionally ripping us off, our government would never do that. Exxon Mobile payed zero dollars in taxes last year.. But it's all good, they shouldn't have to pay taxes, that's what we're for.

Stan Meyer's last words: "They poisoned me.." I'm sure the guy was delusional.. most people say that right before dying.

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:11 pm
by AZGrizFan
expandspanos wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote::lol:

I'd expect nothing less from you...
Keep laughing as gas goes from 4 to 5 to 6 dollars a gallon, meanwhile they were paying 7 cents in Venezuela.. We're not getting ripped off.. there's no way, keep on laughing. :ohno:

Meanwhile, or government essentially outlaws cars that get more than 50 MPG.. Nah, they're not intentionally ripping us off, our government would never do that. Exxon Mobile payed zero dollars in taxes last year.. But it's all good, they shouldn't have to pay taxes, that's what we're for.

Stan Meyer's last words: "They poisoned me.." I'm sure the guy was delusional.. most people say that right before dying.
a) Venezuela pays 7 cents a gallon because it's a police state and the oil is gov't owned.
b) THere are numerous 50 mpg cars on the market in the U.S.
c) Exxon paid $31 BILLION in taxes in 2012. 2013 Figures aren't completed yet.
d) Yes, he proaby was delusional.

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:13 pm
by clenz
expandspanos wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote::lol:

I'd expect nothing less from you...
Keep laughing as gas goes from 4 to 5 to 6 dollars a gallon, meanwhile they were paying 7 cents in Venezuela.. We're not getting ripped off.. there's no way, keep on laughing. :ohno:

Meanwhile, or government essentially outlaws cars that get more than 50 MPG.. Nah, they're not intentionally ripping us off, our government would never do that. Exxon Mobile payed zero dollars in taxes last year.. But it's all good, they shouldn't have to pay taxes, that's what we're for.

Stan Meyer's last words: "They poisoned me.." I'm sure the guy was delusional.. most people say that right before dying.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/21/world ... .html?_r=0

http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopher ... -collapse/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:42 pm
by expandspanos
AZGrizFan wrote:
expandspanos wrote:
Keep laughing as gas goes from 4 to 5 to 6 dollars a gallon, meanwhile they were paying 7 cents in Venezuela.. We're not getting ripped off.. there's no way, keep on laughing. :ohno:

Meanwhile, or government essentially outlaws cars that get more than 50 MPG.. Nah, they're not intentionally ripping us off, our government would never do that. Exxon Mobile payed zero dollars in taxes last year.. But it's all good, they shouldn't have to pay taxes, that's what we're for.

Stan Meyer's last words: "They poisoned me.." I'm sure the guy was delusional.. most people say that right before dying.
a) Venezuela pays 7 cents a gallon because it's a police state and the oil is gov't owned.
b) THere are numerous 50 mpg cars on the market in the U.S.
c) Exxon paid $31 BILLION in taxes in 2012. 2013 Figures aren't completed yet.
d) Yes, he proaby was delusional.

A) Venezuala is not a police state, that's propaganda, just like what they did with Libya, another country that had 14 cent a gallon gasoline before the NATO invasion- funny the countries we are told are "brutal dictatorships" and "police states" all have extremely cheap gas, isn't it?

B) No there aren't. - Only 1 Car gets 51 MPG that isn't electric- Volkswagen Passat TDI SE- and that's highway- even though there are many cars in Europe doing much better than that, which we aren't allowed to buy in our amazing "free market."

C) You are right about last year- I was wrong on that. It was the first time they paid much, the years before that not so much:

2009: The company paid no taxes to the U.S. federal government in 2009, despite 45.2 billion record profits. It paid $15 billion in taxes, but none in federal income tax.

Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2009: Exxon's Income Tax: $0 [UPDATED]

2011: Exxon Mobil, which only sent 2 percent of its $73.3 billion earnings to the IRS.

#1 Exxon Mobil (XOM)

Pre-tax earnings: $73.3 Billion

Tax Provision: $31.1 Billion (42%)
Actual Taxes Paid to U.S. federal government: $1.5 Billion (2%)

Exxon paid $1.5 billion to the U.S. federal government in 2011 and deferred paying an additional $1.6 billion. It paid the majority of its taxes to foreign governments where it operates ($28.8 billion).

Subsidies are one of the reasons ExxonMobil has paid less than half the official U.S. corporate income tax rate of 35%. Between 2010 and 2012, ExxonMobil reported more than $30 billion of U.S. pre-tax income and paid $4.6 billion in corporate income taxes, according to its Securities and Exchange Commission filings
. That’s a tax rate of just 15% compared to the official corporate tax rate of 35%. This tax subsidy cut ExxonMobil’s taxes by $6.2 billion over three years. In 2009, ExxonMobil got an even better deal when the company reported $2.5 billion in U.S profits and got a federal tax rebate of $954 million, according to
Citizens for Tax Justice
.
ExxonMobil had also accumulated $43 billion in offshore profits by the end of 2012, on which it paid no U.S. taxes. Nearly one-third (29 of 92) of ExxonMobil’s foreign subsidiaries are registered in tax-haven nations that impose little to no tax on corporate profits.

D) Nobody runs out of a meeting with investors looking into buying their technology yelling "They poisoned me" coincidentally.

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:42 am
by mrklean
AZGrizFan wrote:
expandspanos wrote:
Keep laughing as gas goes from 4 to 5 to 6 dollars a gallon, meanwhile they were paying 7 cents in Venezuela.. We're not getting ripped off.. there's no way, keep on laughing. :ohno:

Meanwhile, or government essentially outlaws cars that get more than 50 MPG.. Nah, they're not intentionally ripping us off, our government would never do that. Exxon Mobile payed zero dollars in taxes last year.. But it's all good, they shouldn't have to pay taxes, that's what we're for.

Stan Meyer's last words: "They poisoned me.." I'm sure the guy was delusional.. most people say that right before dying.
a) Venezuela pays 7 cents a gallon because it's a police state and the oil is gov't owned.
b) THere are numerous 50 mpg cars on the market in the U.S.
c) Exxon paid $31 BILLION in taxes in 2012. 2013 Figures aren't completed yet.
d) Yes, he proaby was delusional.
Typical FOX News Dyck rider :thumbdown:

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:04 am
by Ibanez
expandspanos wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
a) Venezuela pays 7 cents a gallon because it's a police state and the oil is gov't owned.
b) THere are numerous 50 mpg cars on the market in the U.S.
c) Exxon paid $31 BILLION in taxes in 2012. 2013 Figures aren't completed yet.
d) Yes, he proaby was delusional.

A) Venezuala is not a police state, that's propaganda, just like what they did with Libya, another country that had 14 cent a gallon gasoline before the NATO invasion- funny the countries we are told are "brutal dictatorships" and "police states" all have extremely cheap gas, isn't it?

B) No there aren't. - Only 1 Car gets 51 MPG that isn't electric- Volkswagen Passat TDI SE- and that's highway- even though there are many cars in Europe doing much better than that, which we aren't allowed to buy in our amazing "free market."

C) You are right about last year- I was wrong on that. It was the first time they paid much, the years before that not so much:

2009: The company paid no taxes to the U.S. federal government in 2009, despite 45.2 billion record profits. It paid $15 billion in taxes, but none in federal income tax.

Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2009: Exxon's Income Tax: $0 [UPDATED]

2011: Exxon Mobil, which only sent 2 percent of its $73.3 billion earnings to the IRS.

#1 Exxon Mobil (XOM)

Pre-tax earnings: $73.3 Billion

Tax Provision: $31.1 Billion (42%)
Actual Taxes Paid to U.S. federal government: $1.5 Billion (2%)

Exxon paid $1.5 billion to the U.S. federal government in 2011 and deferred paying an additional $1.6 billion. It paid the majority of its taxes to foreign governments where it operates ($28.8 billion).

Subsidies are one of the reasons ExxonMobil has paid less than half the official U.S. corporate income tax rate of 35%. Between 2010 and 2012, ExxonMobil reported more than $30 billion of U.S. pre-tax income and paid $4.6 billion in corporate income taxes, according to its Securities and Exchange Commission filings
. That’s a tax rate of just 15% compared to the official corporate tax rate of 35%. This tax subsidy cut ExxonMobil’s taxes by $6.2 billion over three years. In 2009, ExxonMobil got an even better deal when the company reported $2.5 billion in U.S profits and got a federal tax rebate of $954 million, according to
Citizens for Tax Justice
.
ExxonMobil had also accumulated $43 billion in offshore profits by the end of 2012, on which it paid no U.S. taxes. Nearly one-third (29 of 92) of ExxonMobil’s foreign subsidiaries are registered in tax-haven nations that impose little to no tax on corporate profits.

D) Nobody runs out of a meeting with investors looking into buying their technology yelling "They poisoned me" coincidentally.

The Honda Civic Hybrid can get 47 mpg. The Prius Hybrid (which take gasoline) gets 50.

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:05 am
by Ibanez
mrklean wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
a) Venezuela pays 7 cents a gallon because it's a police state and the oil is gov't owned.
b) THere are numerous 50 mpg cars on the market in the U.S.
c) Exxon paid $31 BILLION in taxes in 2012. 2013 Figures aren't completed yet.
d) Yes, he proaby was delusional.
Typical FOX News Dyck rider :thumbdown:
Great contribution. :roll:

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:07 am
by Pwns
Stan Meyer who claimed to have built a perpetual motion machine?
Stan Meyer who claimed you could do electrolysis on water and get more energy back from the combustion than was required for the electrolysis, going completely against the laws of thermodynamics?
Stan Meyer who was found to be a fraud in court?

:lol:

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:12 am
by Ibanez
Pwns wrote:Stan Meyer who claimed to have built a perpetual motion machine?
Stan Meyer who claimed you could do electrolysis on water and get more energy back from the combustion than was required for the electrolysis, going completely against the laws of thermodynamics?
Stan Meyer who was found to be a fraud in court?

:lol:
That is obviously irrelevant.

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:53 am
by AZGrizFan
expandspanos wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
a) Venezuela pays 7 cents a gallon because it's a police state and the oil is gov't owned.
b) THere are numerous 50 mpg cars on the market in the U.S.
c) Exxon paid $31 BILLION in taxes in 2012. 2013 Figures aren't completed yet.
d) Yes, he proaby was delusional.

A) Venezuala is not a police state, that's propaganda, just like what they did with Libya, another country that had 14 cent a gallon gasoline before the NATO invasion- funny the countries we are told are "brutal dictatorships" and "police states" all have extremely cheap gas, isn't it?

B) No there aren't. - Only 1 Car gets 51 MPG that isn't electric- Volkswagen Passat TDI SE- and that's highway- even though there are many cars in Europe doing much better than that, which we aren't allowed to buy in our amazing "free market."

C) You are right about last year- I was wrong on that. It was the first time they paid much, the years before that not so much:

2009: The company paid no taxes to the U.S. federal government in 2009, despite 45.2 billion record profits. It paid $15 billion in taxes, but none in federal income tax.

Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2009: Exxon's Income Tax: $0 [UPDATED]

2011: Exxon Mobil, which only sent 2 percent of its $73.3 billion earnings to the IRS.

#1 Exxon Mobil (XOM)

Pre-tax earnings: $73.3 Billion

Tax Provision: $31.1 Billion (42%)
Actual Taxes Paid to U.S. federal government: $1.5 Billion (2%)

Exxon paid $1.5 billion to the U.S. federal government in 2011 and deferred paying an additional $1.6 billion. It paid the majority of its taxes to foreign governments where it operates ($28.8 billion).

Subsidies are one of the reasons ExxonMobil has paid less than half the official U.S. corporate income tax rate of 35%. Between 2010 and 2012, ExxonMobil reported more than $30 billion of U.S. pre-tax income and paid $4.6 billion in corporate income taxes, according to its Securities and Exchange Commission filings
. That’s a tax rate of just 15% compared to the official corporate tax rate of 35%. This tax subsidy cut ExxonMobil’s taxes by $6.2 billion over three years. In 2009, ExxonMobil got an even better deal when the company reported $2.5 billion in U.S profits and got a federal tax rebate of $954 million, according to
Citizens for Tax Justice
.
ExxonMobil had also accumulated $43 billion in offshore profits by the end of 2012, on which it paid no U.S. taxes. Nearly one-third (29 of 92) of ExxonMobil’s foreign subsidiaries are registered in tax-haven nations that impose little to no tax on corporate profits.

D) Nobody runs out of a meeting with investors looking into buying their technology yelling "They poisoned me" coincidentally.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

a) Yeah, comparing Venezuela to Libya REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLY doesn't help your case. Funny how only the dictatorships/police states have cheap gas...If you don't understand that, you're more delusional than the "they poisoned me" guy.
b) so now it's only GAS powered cars we're talking about. Nice left turn, Clyde.
c) So now it's federal INCOME taxes we're talking about. Nice left turn, Clyde.

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:57 pm
by SDHornet
VictorG wrote:
mrklean wrote:After two years. they will say its too expensive to maintain....... Typical DOD :coffee:
One of the biggest expenses of the current war machine budget is man power...All these reduce that.....In the case of the rail gun, not only is manpower reduced, so is weight and physical requirements for weapons systems and also the size and cost of projectiles. :coffee:
:nod:

Would be pretty cool if these new techs work well enough to go this route.

Re: Navy converts sea water to fuel

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:39 am
by VictorG
SDHornet wrote:
VictorG wrote:
One of the biggest expenses of the current war machine budget is man power...All these reduce that.....In the case of the rail gun, not only is manpower reduced, so is weight and physical requirements for weapons systems and also the size and cost of projectiles. :coffee:
:nod:

Would be pretty cool if these new techs work well enough to go this route.
Rail gun is to be deployed within the next few years. The lasers are working and being tested but they need some advancement in high capacity capacitors for rapid fire ability. Lasers may be a bit farther out.