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Charles Koch wrote that "it was only in the past decade that I realized the need to also engage in the political process."

Even if you ignore the deep reservoir of money Koch spent on "educational" and lobbying efforts -- expenditures that could plausibly be described as "political" -- Charles Koch personally gave a little more than $50,000 to candidates and political committees donations prior to 2004. And collectively, his brother and the PAC of the company they own directly supported candidates and political committees to the tune of $7 million over the same period. We rate his claim False.

VictorG wrote:The super rich live in a totally different world. The rules about almost everything are different for them.

grizzaholic wrote:

VictorG wrote:The super rich live in a totally different world. The rules about almost everything are different for them.

Which makes the Chris Brown case a head scratcher...he is in jail for a probation violation, while the DuPont guy rapes a 3 year old and gets no jailtime because "he wouldn't do well in prison".

grizzaholic wrote:

VictorG wrote:The super rich live in a totally different world. The rules about almost everything are different for them.

Which makes the Chris Brown case a head scratcher...he is in jail for a probation violation, while the DuPont guy rapes a 3 year old and gets no jailtime because "he wouldn't do well in prison".

kalm wrote:If he doesn't like push back he should keep his money out of politics. And when he cries in the WSJ Op/ed page he should realize someone might fact check his claims. I'm beginning to wonder if the brothers portrayed in the movie The Campaign might be spot on caricatures.

Our ruling

Charles Koch wrote that "it was only in the past decade that I realized the need to also engage in the political process."

Even if you ignore the deep reservoir of money Koch spent on "educational" and lobbying efforts -- expenditures that could plausibly be described as "political" -- Charles Koch personally gave a little more than $50,000 to candidates and political committees donations prior to 2004. And collectively, his brother and the PAC of the company they own directly supported candidates and political committees to the tune of $7 million over the same period. We rate his claim False.

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Class envy is even uglier.

VictorG wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:
Which makes the Chris Brown case a head scratcher...he is in jail for a probation violation, while the DuPont guy rapes a 3 year old and gets no jailtime because "he wouldn't do well in prison".

I fully believe that the world is heading for a period of time where the super rich or super elite that are isolated from the real society will be dragged out of their hiding places and executed................all over the world!

I think that's about the last thing the French did right!

VictorG wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:
Which makes the Chris Brown case a head scratcher...he is in jail for a probation violation, while the DuPont guy rapes a 3 year old and gets no jailtime because "he wouldn't do well in prison".

I fully believe that the world is heading for a period of time where the super rich or super elite that are isolated from the real society will be dragged out of their hiding places and executed................all over the world!

I think that's about the last thing the French did right!

Chizzang wrote:The Koch Brothers are a hoot..!!!
I love them
Who else has $65 Million to spend on Climate Change - who isn't even in the industry in any way..?
They dropped something like a 1/2 a billion on the WAR AGAINST OBAMA

They are the finest examples of "swing and Miss" billionaires I've ever seen



They're so far up Exxons ass I bet one day it comes out they spent hundreds of millions (with StWrong as their spokes person) betting against Tesla Automotive


They remind me of the two guys in Dumb and Dumber who found a briefcase full of money

HI54UNI wrote:

Chizzang wrote:The Koch Brothers are a hoot..!!!
I love them
Who else has $65 Million to spend on Climate Change - who isn't even in the industry in any way..?
They dropped something like a 1/2 a billion on the WAR AGAINST OBAMA

They are the finest examples of "swing and Miss" billionaires I've ever seen



They're so far up Exxons ass I bet one day it comes out they spent hundreds of millions (with StWrong as their spokes person) betting against Tesla Automotive


They remind me of the two guys in Dumb and Dumber who found a briefcase full of money

Tom Steyer

Chizzang wrote:

HI54UNI wrote:


Tom Steyer

What about Steyer..?

Col Hogan wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
What about Steyer..?

That's the point...

Grizalltheway wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:
That's the point...

What, that a guy with more money than he could ever hope to spend actually cares about something other than obtaining more?

Col Hogan wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
What, that a guy with more money than he could ever hope to spend actually cares about something other than obtaining more?

Yea...right...

However, we don’t think most people would naturally assume that’s what Koch meant when he said he had only recently engaged in the political process.

JohnStOnge wrote:Oh well. I guess the "Our Ruling" on the Politifacts site trumps everything including what somebody says about what they said they meant about engaging in the political process.

However, we don’t think most people would naturally assume that’s what Koch meant when he said he had only recently engaged in the political process.

I guess "we don't think" is the trump card.

Col Hogan wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
What about Steyer..?

That's the point...