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McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:27 am
by Ivytalk
SCOTUS rules 5-4 that overall contribution limits violate the First Amendment.

But contributions to individual federal candidates remain fixed at $2,600 per election. Justice Thomas would have done away with those, too.

Discuss.

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:32 am
by dbackjon
5 Conks voted to allow a flood of cash
4 Patriotic Democrats voted to keep the limits.




Republicans - can't win on ideas, have to steal.

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:45 am
by kalm
The threat of quid pro quo is outweighed by the political meme that money is protected speech. :dunce: :rofl:

What a bunch of irrational douchebags. :nod: Not to go all JSO on the judiciary, but seriously, how can someone become a SCOTUS judge lacking this much common sense? :suspicious:

We might as well start handing out votes based on assets. It would be cheaper. :thumb:

(And I know the last statement made it move a little for some of you conks, so simmer down, ya filthy, plutocrats!)

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:53 am
by CitadelGrad
kalm wrote:The threat of quid pro quo is outweighed by the political meme that money is protected speech. :dunce: :rofl:

What a bunch of irrational douchebags. :nod: Not to go all JSO on the judiciary, but seriously, how can someone become a SCOTUS judge lacking this much common sense? :suspicious:

We might as well start handing out votes based on assets. It would be cheaper. :thumb:

(And I know the last statement made it move a little for some of you conks, so simmer down, ya filthy, plutocrats!)
The majority did exactly what they were supposed to do. They made a legal evaluation, not a political calculation.

The purpose of the Bill of Rights is to guarantee liberty, not equal outcomes.

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:07 pm
by kalm
CitadelGrad wrote:
kalm wrote:The threat of quid pro quo is outweighed by the political meme that money is protected speech. :dunce: :rofl:

What a bunch of irrational douchebags. :nod: Not to go all JSO on the judiciary, but seriously, how can someone become a SCOTUS judge lacking this much common sense? :suspicious:

We might as well start handing out votes based on assets. It would be cheaper. :thumb:

(And I know the last statement made it move a little for some of you conks, so simmer down, ya filthy, plutocrats!)
The majority did exactly what they were supposed to do. They made a legal evaluation, not a political calculation.

The purpose of the Bill of Rights is to guarantee liberty, not equal outcomes.
So can joe blow schedule an appointment with a congressman? You clearly haven't thought modern liberty through very much. :coffee:

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:08 pm
by Ivytalk
kalm wrote:We might as well start handing out votes based on assets. It would be cheaper. :thumb:
I'd settle for property qualifications for voting. :thumb:

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:09 pm
by kalm
Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:We might as well start handing out votes based on assets. It would be cheaper. :thumb:
I'd settle for property qualifications for voting. :thumb:
I'm sure you would. 8-)

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:20 pm
by Ivytalk
dbackjon wrote:5 Conks voted to allow a flood of cash
4 Patriotic Democrats voted to keep the limits.




Republicans - can't win on ideas, have to steal.
And so CS.com's gay Chris Matthews weighs in...

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:58 pm
by AZGrizFan
kalm wrote: We might as well start handing out votes based on assets. It would be cheaper. :thumb:

(And I know the last statement made it move a little for some of you conks, so simmer down, ya filthy, plutocrats!)
JSO got a little stiffy right there. :coffee:

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:13 pm
by HI54UNI
Ivytalk wrote:
dbackjon wrote:5 Conks voted to allow a flood of cash
4 Patriotic Democrats voted to keep the limits.




Republicans - can't win on ideas, have to steal.
And so CS.com's gay Chris Matthews weighs in...
:lol: :lol:

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:28 pm
by Ivytalk
Heck, let's overrule Buckley v. Valeo once and for all, and eliminate the per-candidate limits, too! :)

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:31 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Ivytalk wrote:
dbackjon wrote:5 Conks voted to allow a flood of cash
4 Patriotic Democrats voted to keep the limits.




Republicans - can't win on ideas, have to steal.
And so CS.com's gay Chris Matthews weighs in...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:32 pm
by dbackjon
Ivytalk wrote:Heck, let's overrule Buckley v. Valeo once and for all, and eliminate the per-candidate limits, too! :)

Thomas wanted that

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:52 pm
by CitadelGrad
kalm wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
The majority did exactly what they were supposed to do. They made a legal evaluation, not a political calculation.

The purpose of the Bill of Rights is to guarantee liberty, not equal outcomes.
So can joe blow schedule an appointment with a congressman? You clearly haven't thought modern liberty through very much. :coffee:
It depends on the congressperson in question. Joe Blows meet with my congressman all the time. I seriously doubt that Pelosi has much time for the hoi polloi.

Anyway, I don't see anything in the Constitution that requires members of congress to keep a certain number of hours to meet with Joe Blow. If members of congress are not responsive to the constituents, they can be voted out of office. That's why most of them have sizable staffs in Washington and their districts to deal with constituent matters.

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:55 pm
by kalm
CitadelGrad wrote:
kalm wrote:
So can joe blow schedule an appointment with a congressman? You clearly haven't thought modern liberty through very much. :coffee:
It depends on the congressperson in question. Joe Blows meet with my congressman all the time. I seriously doubt that Pelosi has much time for the hoi polloi.

Anyway, I don't see anything in the Constitution that requires members of congress to keep a certain number of hours to meet with Joe Blow. If members of congress are not responsive to the constituents, they can be voted out of office. That's why most of them have sizable staffs in Washington and their districts to deal with constituent matters.
Nice deflection. You know what I'm talking about. :dunce:

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:59 pm
by GannonFan
kalm wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
It depends on the congressperson in question. Joe Blows meet with my congressman all the time. I seriously doubt that Pelosi has much time for the hoi polloi.

Anyway, I don't see anything in the Constitution that requires members of congress to keep a certain number of hours to meet with Joe Blow. If members of congress are not responsive to the constituents, they can be voted out of office. That's why most of them have sizable staffs in Washington and their districts to deal with constituent matters.
Nice deflection. You know what I'm talking about. :dunce:
I think you need a better congressperson - I don't contribute a dime in terms of campaign funds and I can meet with my congressperson. I didn't realize politicians out west were so unapproachable. :coffee:

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:00 pm
by kalm
GannonFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Nice deflection. You know what I'm talking about. :dunce:
I think you need a better congressperson - I don't contribute a dime in terms of campaign funds and I can meet with my congressperson. I didn't realize politicians out west were so unapproachable. :coffee:
Yes, and I'm sure you can impact their vote. :dunce:

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:12 pm
by YoUDeeMan
kalm wrote:
We might as well start handing out votes based on assets.
Assets? Who needs assets to vote?

Cripes, you don't even need an ID to vote.

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:30 pm
by CitadelGrad
kalm wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
It depends on the congressperson in question. Joe Blows meet with my congressman all the time. I seriously doubt that Pelosi has much time for the hoi polloi.

Anyway, I don't see anything in the Constitution that requires members of congress to keep a certain number of hours to meet with Joe Blow. If members of congress are not responsive to the constituents, they can be voted out of office. That's why most of them have sizable staffs in Washington and their districts to deal with constituent matters.
Nice deflection. You know what I'm talking about. :dunce:
Like you, I rarely know what you are talking about.

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:13 pm
by kalm
CitadelGrad wrote:
kalm wrote:
Nice deflection. You know what I'm talking about. :dunce:
Like you, I rarely know what you are talking about.
Playing dumb fits you like a glove . :nod:

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:19 pm
by CID1990
CitadelGrad wrote:
kalm wrote:
Nice deflection. You know what I'm talking about. :dunce:
Like you, I rarely know what you are talking about.
Klam is never direct

only cryptic

it gives him backpedal-ability

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:01 pm
by travelinman67
Don't agree with decision, but it mitigates the unconstitutional advantage afforded the Dems through numerous institutionalized govt. entitlement handouts designed solely to support the liberal demographic.
Unions funnel foreign contributions via prepaid cc's distributed to anonymous members. And the voter fraud enchaptered by our nations largest criminal enterprise, Holders DOJ, well...

...in the end, it all balances out.

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:13 am
by kalm
CID1990 wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
Like you, I rarely know what you are talking about.
Klam is never direct

only cryptic

it gives him backpedal-ability
The more money you give the more you get to influence legislation.

You're welcome. :dunce:

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:45 am
by kalm
BTW, I wonder where JSO is on this one. Activist judges and all...

Re: McCutcheon v. FEC

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:25 am
by GannonFan
kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Klam is never direct

only cryptic

it gives him backpedal-ability
The more money you give the more you get to influence legislation.

You're welcome. :dunce:
Then you should gather together all the like minded voters who think like you do and, together, make the changes you want. Why do you not care enough to make a difference?